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Re: G Train to be cut back to Court Square permanently

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Jan 16 23:08:37 2008, in response to Re: G Train to be cut back to Court Square permanently, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 16 22:30:13 2008.

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Yes, but it's a different situation. The C train has two sets of riders. Those that just ride in Manhattan, and a LARGE amount that take the C to Manhattan from Brooklyn. But many, many people ride through from Brooklyn to Manhattan. In the case of the G train, you had enough people riding it ON Queens Blvd, and a lot of people riding IN Brooklyn, but most of the people that ride it on Queens Blvd, are not the same people that ride it in Brooklyn. Most people that ride it on Queens Blvd just rode it to get to Queens Plaza (or Roosevelt) to get a train to Manhattan. Most people that ride it in Brooklyn just rode it to Queens Plaza to get a train to Manahttan.

Alright, I get the point already, most Queens Boulevard riders are going towards Manhattan yada, yada, yada... But that still does not necessarily mean that not a lot of people ride it between Queens Boulevard and the Crosstown line. So what if not the majority of the passengers stay the same, as long as a good amount of people utilize the ride.

It's the connection that's not necessarily needed, as the V solves the Queens Blvd problem.

What problem? Walking across the platform to take an (E) or (F) train that comes almost instantly? Try watching the train leave in your face almost every day because it is too short, try watching one train skip your crowded station at least three times a week after waiting over 10 minutes for the train during the rush, or try walking through one too damn long corridor with a walkalator that barely works just to get to a Manhattan-bound train.

So, no, it's not a valid comparisan, as the Brooklyn C riders are not like the Brooklyn G riders. The majority of Brooklyn C riders stay on their train and take it through to destinations in Manhattan on the other end of their route. The Majority of Brooklyn G riders GET OFF their G trains to take another train before the train traverses the rest of it's route to the end.

... Anyway, at least even though Brooklyn-Manhattan riders are the minority as opposed to Manhattan-Manhattan riders, the (C) train is not being cut back within Manhattan, sure the Brooklyn-Manhattan ridership may be higher on the (C) than Brooklyn-Queens ridership on the (G), but once again that does not mean that the service is underutilized.

Oh please.

Yes, since 2001.

Unfortunately, thanks to IND design, the G train NEVER goes where the vast majority wants to go, and "Forest Hills" isn't it either.

Sure "Forest Hills" isn't the top destination neither, but if the service goes there, and provides a unique service that people utilize, why cut service from there?

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