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Re: G Train to be cut back to Court Square permanently

Posted by Eric B on Wed Jan 23 11:57:03 2008, in response to Re: G Train to be cut back to Court Square permanently, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 22 22:59:47 2008.

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>So the M/V could run out of East New York, using East New York's equipment, after all, the V will be an Eastern Division train if it runs there.

It would be harder to do that on weekdays. I devised that on weekends because it would take 3 hours for the first train from Met to go all the way to Forest Hills and return, and this came in handy, as you would not beed the through service coming from Manhattan so early in the morning. So the trains can come from ENY, go in to service at Myrtle to prove the shuttle service towards Met, and then head off to Manhattan from Met. and it would keep doing that until the first round trip trains returnm adnd it would be later int he morning by then.

On weekdays, you have the two way service from both Met and CIYD. So the Met. bound service doesn't have to wait for the first round trip from Met. to return. That yard is big and varied enough for the M to have space for its dedicated fleet. Jamaica isn't.

>But as mentioned, the problem is that 99% of the people living along the M line, or the J line have absolutely NO idea that service is even possible, so none of them will "demand" something they don't know exists.

Which is why Operations Planning has no motivation to go affecting weekday Queens Blvd. service and Jamaica yard, and our requests for that much will quickly be thrown out. It is better to start on something less disruptive like weekends (when the V doesn't run at all, so it would be an improvement, rather than a reduction; —as well as benefitting the G riders going to local stations, which is the long forgotten original topic of this thread).

As one of the other people said, the Amtrak strike would have been a lucky break of sorts for exposure of the service. Or some other emergency. Unless that stuff happens, the only way to convince them to use it now is in a way that does not affect any other established line. They are not going to diminish established lines for something basically untried (or when it was tried years ago, it flopped, and the infrastructure [northern terminal] has changed since then).


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