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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 22 10:09:56 2008, in response to Re: M-V combo, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 22 09:29:51 2008. below Wyckoff in the morning rush.And that is because they don't have a choice. There are many people that reverse peak ride from Central Ave and Knickerbocker Ave to Wyckoff to get the L. Those are more Midtown people. From Myrtle-Bway to Marcy, they run to Nassau, and use one of the transfers on Nassau to transfer to their final destination route. THOSE people are also people effected by a direct 6th Ave train, and it's not just because of the 6th Ave line itself, but it's transfers. Many people riding from let's say "Lorimer" to the Broadway line take the M to Canal St. Under the direct 6th Ave service, many of those people would instead use that and use the 6th Ave line, as Bway's destinations in Midtown are quite similar to 6th Ave's, and a one seat ride is superior to a 2 seat ride. People from "Lorimer" destined for the 8th Ave line currently ride the M to Fulton St, and use the PITA transfer there (and go all the way south to do that) whereas with an M/V to 6th Ave, they have a very simple transfer at West 4th St, which is not rounadabout like going all the way to Fulton is. Lexington Service, they currently use either Canal or Chambers (again roundabout to go south just to go north again, and also a PITA transfer to an extent, will one day be able to use Bleecker-Bway-Lafayette when that connection is complete. 7th Ave line service, currently people from "Lorimer" take the M down roundaboutly to Fulton St (again, go south just to go back north again after transferring) to transfer in a PITA transfer to the 7th Ave line. Under a 6th Ave direct line, that transfer is moved up to 14th St. So YES, all these people want "Nassau St" but not because they want it's destinations, but because they want Nassau's TRANFERS to other lines. And they have no choice in the matter, and So, I have to laugh when people say this "only" has to do with people transferring at Essex (which is the usual excuse, and does have quite a few people), but it also has to do with people transferring at Wyckoff (which is a lot too), and it ALSO has to do with people transferring at other Nassau stations like Canal, Chambers, and Fulton (in addition to Essex). This goes WAY beyond just "Essex-Delancey" and "Direct 6th Ave line destinations". It has to do with ridership patterns all along the M/J line, and effects every line right down to the 7th Ave and 8th Ave lines, which most people don't even think of. |
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