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Re: SAS Phase 4: Water Street/Nassau Street

Posted by R160 8818 on Thu Jan 31 20:32:06 2008, in response to Re: SAS Phase 4: Water Street/Nassau Street, posted by Russ on Thu Jan 31 20:03:49 2008.

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I think you being persistent about having only ONE option that will take another 10 years to materialize provided there is no delays in terms of construction, that the economy is good and that things are on time.
How about think about the demand for train service between Brooklyn and Manhattan. True we do need a corridor on Water Street, but construction will probably be delayed. And about the 2014 completion date of Phase 1, I believe 2020 would be more likely.

The Water Street Plan may benefit users and may provide a foundation for train service to Staten Island and Brooklyn, but it will take years to come for the T line to actually reach Staten Island or Brooklyn. Things don't happen in a snap.

We could just truncate the J line on the western pair of tracks at Chambers Street, truncate the L at Atlantic during rush hours and send the Z from Chambers to Canarsie. And since the stations along that line handled 8 car 67 foot trains, which translates as a 536 foot train. So a minor extension to the ends won't hurt that much than to have crews dig up Water Street, find the artifacts, build entirely new stations, new infrastructure ...

The Water Street alignment will be built... but we need a short term plan.
Look, think of a bull's eye: we are trying to get to the middle, which is "your preferred option". That is our goal. We will keep the connection running until the Phase 4 opens, and when it does we can let the trains run on Water. The connection will allow a rush hour service and perhaps for service disruptions.

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