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Re: SAS Phase 4: Water Street/Nassau Street

Posted by R160 8818 on Wed Jan 30 20:21:13 2008, in response to Re: SAS Phase 4: Water Street/Nassau Street, posted by Russ on Wed Jan 30 19:55:13 2008.

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How is the Water Street segment superior?
How?
Aside from Grand Street, there is no transfer option in any of the others stations.
Look at the comparison:
Hanover Square may look close to Whitehall terminal but it is not, nor does Broad Street. But Broad Street is right in the heart of the Wall Street District, while Hanover Square is hanging out at Water Street. Patrons from the UES bound for Wall Street are opt to take the Nassau-SAS rather than Phase 4 which ends up near the HIP headquarters.
Fulton Street on the Nassau Line has transfer privileges to the IND 8th Avenue-Fulton Line, the IRT Lexington Ave Line, the IRT Seventh Avenue Line. And when the Dey Street Passageway is completed, then there is a connection to the BMT Broadway, the IND 8th Ave Local, the PATH train and the IRT Seventh Avenue Local. Plus Fulton Street is closer to many developments in the area such as the towers slated to rise from the WTC site, Goldman Sachs and Pace University. Seaport Station is close to the South St Seaport, the hospital and the development that is under planning stage at Beekman and Pearl. Still, more patrons will be expected to use the Fulton Station rather than Seaport.
As for Chatham Sq, it only serves Chinatown and the Confucius Plaza area. Yes it may do a lot for the community, but the community will still head to BROOKLYN via the N/Q/B/D. They won't use the SAS much. Meanwhile, Chambers Street will provide a transfer to the IRT and provide access to the Civic Center of Manhattan. The courts and municipal buildings are at or within 1-3 blocks of Chambers Street Station. So more patrons will use that station.
At Canal Street, the train stops at the tourist part of Chinatown where A LOT of tourists visit each day. Grand Street on the other hand is more residential compared to Canal Street near Centre Street. The station also has transfer opportunities to the BMT Broadway and the IRT Lex. Those lines can go downtown, uptown, Queens, or the UES. Grand Street on the other hand provides only the B/D which heads directly to Brooklyn or continue on the 6th Ave to the UWS. Still a lot of passengers will use Canal Street.

You may consider the alignment inferior due to its present deteriorating state (Chambers Street and Bowery) yet the line between Bowery and Chambers Street has room and potential for another line. It therefore more simpler and cost efficient to dig a small ditch to link the SAS tubes with the Centre Street line rather to continue to dig for another 5-7 years Downtown.

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