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Re: Summary and Video of November 2015 SBS meeting in Woodhaven

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 17 18:43:08 2016, in response to Re: Summary and Video of November 2015 SBS meeting in Woodhaven, posted by R30A on Wed Feb 17 16:00:29 2016.

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DOT gave daily numbers of about 30,000 vehicles passing selected intersections. If be assumes that the percentage of vehicles passing 157th Avenue and also Eliot Avenue as small, that is a total of 100,000 vehicles. If we assume only 1.2 people per car (sone use 1.6 as the average) that is already at least 120,000 people in cars and trucks. Subtract the 5,000 or so daily bus riders in casino, charter and school buses, and you reduce the numbers of bus riders to 20,000. That leaves 6 times as many in cars, trucks and motorcycles as in MTA buses.

Those in cars are likely to spend more time on Woodhaven than those in buses since the average city local bus trip is only 2.3 miles. On Woodhaven I would estimate the average to be slightly longer like 2.7 miles due to the heavy use of the Queens Blvd line.

You are right. People don't have to switch modes for congestion to be reduced. They just won't visit grandma as often or they may decide this is the straw that break the camel's back and finally move to Jersey or the Island or perhaps even Florida which they had been thinking about anyway. All of that hurts the economy and is a step in the wrong direction for our city.

No, even if you are not speeding, your top speed of 30 mph will now be 15 mph.

You can check NY 1 for the recent Alderton article.

When I used Woodhaven daily ten years ago during rush hours, traffic was only bad or intolerable about twice a week. I am sure it is worse today after the nbsense changes made as a result of the Congested Corridors Study which eliminated many bypass routes on days when traffic was intolerable. So now it may be bad, three or four days a week. With these changes elminating left turns, you will just be stopped in traffic and trapped if you are not near an exit lane and it will be bad or intolerable most of the time.

Af far as no one traveling a mile out of their way to make a left turn, try going to Stop and Shop from Woodhaven north of Metropolitan. What used to be a simple left turn from Woodhaven south onto Union Turnpike will now require you to use the service road to the Montauk line, make a u-turn, double back to Metropolitan, name a right turn to 71 Avenue, go south to Union Turnpike and west to Stop and Shop. That is a mile extra and is only one example. And with all the cars that will be using that service road due to no left turns to Metropolitan and Union Turnpike now all on the service road, and the lengthy red signal at 73rd Avenue, it will also be a long and slow trip.


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