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Re: Summary and Video of November 2015 SBS meeting in Woodhaven

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Feb 22 14:10:49 2016, in response to Re: Summary and Video of November 2015 SBS meeting in Woodhaven, posted by R30A on Wed Feb 17 19:24:47 2016.

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Why would we assume that amount is small?

Because it makes sense. To say a high percentage of those passing 157th Avenue and also Elliot Avenue would assume that cumulatively very few cars are turning on and off the roadway at all the intersections between those two points? That would be utterly ridiculous.

No assuming 120,000 people in cars does not assume everyone is traveling a short distance. You just made that up. Even if most everyone were traveling long distances, that would be the number.

I am certainly not deflating the number of bus passengers. I am using DOTs numbers. I am also not inflating the number of cars. First you claim I said that cars are all riding short distances which I never said. Now you say I am assuming cars stay on the road the entire length. I never said that either. You are just making things up because you can't accept the facts and logic I presented.

The "substantial" amount of express bus riders is not "substantial" it is only about 7 percent of total Woodhaven ridership if my math is correct. Even if the average Lmited rider travels for five miles on the limited, adding the locals brings the average down somewhat. What would you say the average ride on Woodhaven /Cross Bay is and don't forget it is inflated due to the lengthy Cross Bay and Addabbo bridges,where there are no stops so limited or local doesn't make a difference there.

When you consider the middle class is moving out and lower income people are moving in, it certainly does make a difference on the economy.

When you consider the increased congestion, the amount of time you accelerate to top speed, stop and slow down for traffic lights, a top speed of 15 is not unrealistic for rush hours. At other times it will be your average speed.

Drivers were using Alderton before when Woodhaven was congested. Now they are using it more because congestion has increased. That's why residents are now callng for a one-way once again. It is certainly related to the exclusive bus lanes. SBS is not yet in effect, so of course it is not related to that.

Ten years ago is very relevent unless you assume congestion today is less than what it was then. It is much more.

Eliminating left turns certainly does not reduce traffic. IT INCREASES IT. You have to travel a longer distance to make three rights if it is at all possible. In many cases it isn't, You also have to consider traffic on surrounding streets, not only the traffic on Woodhaven. THAT IS WHAT IS MEANT BY A CORRIDOR.

Okay. I will go to Stop and Shop as you proposed. So I first make a left onto Trotting Course Lane. Is that correct? Oops I just got hit head on because Trotting Course is a one way northbound. What do I do now?

DOT changed their proposal to make Trotting Course a two-way, but they no longer show that in their revised proposal. The the routing I specified is correct and is the shortest route to Stop and Shop.

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