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Re: Summary and Video of November 2015 SBS meeting in Woodhaven

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 24 10:12:43 2016, in response to Re: Summary and Video of November 2015 SBS meeting in Woodhaven, posted by R30A on Tue Feb 23 21:32:08 2016.

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1.2 and 1.6 are widely recognized standards. That means that you believe a typical automobile carries 1.1 or fewer people. That is not true and exists only in your mind.

You only spoke of vehicles. You never accounted for more than one person per vehicle.

Yes I certainly understand how buses work. You are the one who does not.

DOT stated at the meetings and it may even be in writing that all traffic will move faster after SBS is implemented. It is no assumption. They stated specifically that removing a lane will reduce bottlenecks when the opposite is true since more vehicles will now be forced into the remaining lanes.

DOT did not look at traffic shifted to parallel roadways except in Staten Island and they dismissed the slower travel times as unrelated to the bus lanes. Speed definitely did not improve. It worsened!

Would you say the turnover between Elliott and 157 Avenue is only 20 percent when it probably is closer to 80%? Sixty thousand vehicles passing Elliot and 60,000 vehicles passing 157th Avenue with 80 percent being the same vehicles, equals 72,000 vehicles. Assuming a conservative 1.2 people per vehicle brings the total non-bus passengers using Woodhaven/Cross Bay Blvds to 75,000 people, still over twice the number of bus passengers. During off-peak hours when exclusive bus lanes are also proposed, it would be like three or four times using those ridiculously low estimates.

A more realistic 40 percent turnover, but still improbable (because it us at least 60 percent) and 1.6 passengers per car raises the daily total from 75,000 people in vehicles other than buses to 134,000. That is over five times the number of bus passengers and the MTA is reducing four general traffic lanes to two and will add speed bumps on the service roads to further slow traffic. There isn't a chance in hell that traffic will move faster.



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