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Re: Summary and Video of November 2015 SBS meeting in Woodhaven |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Feb 24 10:32:14 2016, in response to Re: Summary and Video of November 2015 SBS meeting in Woodhaven, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 24 10:12:43 2016. "1.2 and 1.6 are widely recognized standards. That means that you believe a typical automobile carries 1.1 or fewer people. That is not true and exists only in your mind."I never said such. 1.2 and 1.6 are not relevant. "You only spoke of vehicles. You never accounted for more than one person per vehicle." False "Yes I certainly understand how buses work. You are the one who does not." Your statement makes it clear that you do not understand how buses work if you think that a rider traveling a short distance would be unaffected by the presence of bus lanes. "DOT stated at the meetings and it may even be in writing that all traffic will move faster after SBS is implemented. It is no assumption. They stated specifically that removing a lane will reduce bottlenecks when the opposite is true since more vehicles will now be forced into the remaining lanes." Yes. DOT is almost certainly correct. You are not, since you don't understand what actually causes traffic. "DOT did not look at traffic shifted to parallel roadways except in Staten Island and they dismissed the slower travel times as unrelated to the bus lanes. Speed definitely did not improve. It worsened!" Unsubstantiated assertion, almost certainly incorrect. "Would you say the turnover between Elliott and 157 Avenue is only 20 percent when it probably is closer to 80%? Sixty thousand vehicles passing Elliot and 60,000 vehicles passing 157th Avenue with 80 percent being the same vehicles, equals 72,000 vehicles." No. I do not make assertions without basis. "Assuming a conservative 1.2 people per vehicle brings the total non-bus passengers using Woodhaven/Cross Bay Blvds to 75,000 people, still over twice the number of bus passengers. During off-peak hours when exclusive bus lanes are also proposed, it would be like three or four times using those ridiculously low estimates. " Completely made up. "A more realistic 40 percent turnover, but still improbable (because it us at least 60 percent) and 1.6 passengers per car raises the daily total from 75,000 people in vehicles other than buses to 134,000." Again, baseless numbers with the baseless assertion that they are more likely to be true than the prior set of baseless assertions. "That is over five times the number of bus passengers and the MTA is reducing four general traffic lanes to two and will add speed bumps on the service roads to further slow traffic. There isn't a chance in hell that traffic will move faster." A. It is only over 5 times the number of bus passengers if you fudge the numbers B. 4 to 3, not 4 to 2. C. Of course not. Slowing the speed is a stated goal. That said, when there is traffic, it will likely not be as bad. |
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