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Posted by R30A on Mon Mar 14 16:43:06 2016, in response to Re: Summary and Video of November 2015 SBS meeting in Woodhaven, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Mar 14 16:32:27 2016. "Yes between closure and removal the existing West Street service road was the only capacity AND TRAFFIC WAS HORRIFIC. Nothing was moving until the road was widened. So exactly what is your point?Yes traffic lights reduce capacity but we were comparing Miller Highway without lights and the widened West Street with lights so my point was since traffic wasn't free flowing much of the time on the highway the difference in speeds after the highway was removed and after West Street was widened was not that significant." And it still gets backed up today. I think West Street is a perfect example of traffic mirroring capacity, which was the initial point. "You can make an absurd statement like "all ten of you" with zero data to back that up is quite okay when you make it. But if I state the number is significant, I need to have data to prove it. It also was on,y one example. What about otters coming from the east that would shift to the Van Wyck and further slow it down? The point us eventually equilibrium will be found which will result in longer trips time wise for everyone." Ten was a flippant remark obviously not meant to be taken seriously. I am not saying there isn't any demand Woodside-Sheepshead, but to accept that such is large, I CERTAINLY would need to see data. "And me not making that trip anymore is meaningless because most certainly I was replaced by someone else who did not previously make the trip." Your replacement in Woodside also lives in Sheepshead bay? What a coincidence! "Where is your data to show Rogers is not substantially different today? I have not seen any data from the MTA or DOT. Have you?" Where is your data to show it is? "If the alternatives to Woodhaven took longer before, they will now be competitive or be quicker after Woodhaven travel tines greatly increase due to the reduced capacity resulting from removal of general traffic lanes. The increased green times from elminating left turns will not make up for the reduction of a general traffic lane." Except for the fact that they likely will, as just as before, Woodhaven will have three lanes throughout. The change will be that there are fewer additional lanes in select locations than there are today. Also for through capacity to increase ALL LEFT TURNS would have to be eliminated not some to enable the progressive lights to increase capacity. And if priority signals for buses are put in, that would also mess up the progressive signals for general traffic. So I have real doubts about eliminTing left turns actually increasing through capacity. |
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