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Re: Summary and Video of November 2015 SBS meeting in Woodhaven |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Feb 24 16:02:17 2016, in response to Re: Summary and Video of November 2015 SBS meeting in Woodhaven, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 24 15:43:20 2016. "Show me where DOT says there are two car occupants to every bus rider. Citation please or your claim IS UNFOUNDED."http://www.nyc.gov/html/brt/downloads/pdf/brt-woodhaven-faq.pdf 1915 bus riders across Myrtle. 3342 Other vehicle occupants. You're welcome. "I see no basis where you claim the savings by bus passengers would be large. Yes dismiss any claims by drivers as unfounded because as you say drivers always complain. By the same token I can dismiss all claims by bus riders that buses are slow' late and delayed by traffic because bus riders also always tend to exaggerate. They will wait an extra ten minutes and tell you they waited 30. SORRY BUT THERE IS NO EVIDENCE FOR YOU TO ASSUME THAT DRIVERS ALWAYS EXXAGERATE WHILE BUS RIDERS TELL THE TRUTH. SHOW ME THE SCIENTIFIC STUDY THAT CAUSED YOU TO CONCLUDE THAT. Your claim that drivers EXXAGERATE more than any other segment of the population is UNFOUNDED" That is the DOT, not bus riders. but reliability is hard to argue against with regards to SBS. It is sky high compared to the other routes. "DOT does not consider drivers who change their route. The traffic study for the M15 only looked at traffic on First and Second Avenue. There' were no before and after counts for Third or York Avenues, the two streets that are beside First and Second where traffic might have shifted." Just blatantly false. Just because YOU don't have those numbers doesn't mean they weren't taken. "Your Google traffic for noon proves my point. . If Alderton is only three minutes longer at 11:47 AM, when Woodhaven traffic moves freely and the bus lane is not in effect, you can bet it may be 7 minutes quicker when there is one lane less on Woodhaven with much more traffic." No you can't bet that. What part of that don't you understand? Number of lanes is not directly related to trip times. "But since traffic tends to equalize itself, I would say that after the traffic diverts to Alderton, traffic times would be about equal." Potentially. "An arterial should be much faster than a slow residential street." Why? And besides, what does this have to do with Alderton. It isn't your average slow residential street. It is a rather dense mostly residential street. "If it is made a one way south, traffic on Woodhaven would just get much worse and other alternatives will be sought such as 88 Street, worsening traffic and accidents there. But you will not hear about Woodhaven when DOT puts together their traffic numbers." Wow! More unsubstantiated claims. ""Yes, but so what? The speeds would be reduced even further should the modifications NOT be made" I have no idea what that is supposed to mean." With traffic speeds being reduced REGARDLESS of SBS, Bus speeds would be reduced more than if they had their own lanes. "You say "reduction of speed overall (I assume you mean speed limit) is happening regardless of what is done with SBS. They are no connected." That is not what DOT is saying now. They now say SBS on Woodhaven and Vision Zero are both part of their Complete Streets Plan. That makes them VERY CONNECTED." Just because they are part of the same project, doesn't make them connected. The speed limits will be reduced regardless of the bus lanes. "Prove to me exclusive lanes will be saving buses time during the non-rush hours. Buses are traveling at top speed." Who says it will? I think the real reason for having off peak bus lanes is reliability, not speed. "Last Saturday I caught up to Limited bus at Metropolitan Avenue and I was not able to overtake it until Queens Boulevard. So tell me why an exclusive lane is needed and how will it make the bus go any faster. YOUR CLAIM THAT BUSES WILL SAVE TIME DURING THE OFF PEAK WITH EXCLUSIVE LANES IS UNFOUNDED." Where did I claim that? |
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