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Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 12 23:10:52 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Apr 12 22:41:57 2009.

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Ronkonkoma's electrification allowed LIRR to make more efficient use of the electric fleet, and to provide faster and more direct service from that branch to Penn Station.

Correct. I don't think the MTA realized to what extent it would shift ridership along the three east end lines. They probably expected a little of it, but surely not what happened. Ronkonkoma was only built with a small island platform! (the current middle platform). WIthin about 3-4 years, they saw what had happened, and quickly added the two outer platforms, expanded the lots, etc. Later the multi level garage came, and FURTHER expansion of the lots. And even with all that, there are still cars parked all over the grass, along the woods outside the lot, and everywhere, it's utter mayhem at Ronkonkoma.

Further electrification of LIRR lines will come as a response to demand. I think electrifying more of Port Jeff (not necessarily the whole line) is cool because it would reduce a bit the zoo at Ronkonkoma.


Yes, this is true. There is no real quick solution to the problem that was created at Ronkonkoma. I really think the first step is to finally expand service to at LEAST Yaphank, and they have that in the Capital plan for the future to electrify to there. Part of the problem is the artificially making Ronkonkoma the end of commuter territory.
And really, that will only be a quick fix electrifying to Yaphank, as the mayhem will soon expand to Yaphank and Medford, although at least it's a start.

I think that even after they electrify to Yaphank, they will have to revisit electrifying the Port Jeff line to further take passengers back to that line. I also think that unless they do one day expand back along the Wading River Branch, which would be difficult politically (although not physically), they may also have to make Riverhead the end of Commuter territory, as if they don't expand to Wading River, electification of the Port Jeff line, increased service to Riverhead, along with electrification to Yaphank or Riverhead would be the only things that would finally end the zoo at Ronkonkoma.

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