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Posted by Easy on Wed Apr 28 09:56:01 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by AlM on Wed Apr 28 08:52:11 2010. It will be repealed because the huge emotional backlash across the country. Also, parts of it may be unconstitutional.First of all, does hanging around Home Depot speaking Spanish constitute reasonable suspicion of illegal presence in the US? Of course not. So if you decide you can't detain anyone just for being at Home Depot, what kind of activity actually generates a reasonable suspicion, other than someone carrying a sign saying "I am an illegal alien"? What Joe Arpaio says he does is that in the course of normal police work he asks everyone suspected of a crime "Where were you born?" I guess that if they mention a foreign country that he asks what their immigration status is and likely for documentation. Hopefully it doesn't offend you that suspected criminals are being forced to identify themselves and if they can't are turned over to ICE. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 28 10:16:21 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by Easy on Wed Apr 28 09:56:01 2010. I've got no problem with police asking a suspected criminal "Where were you born?" I guess it shows how dumb many are that they don't just say Los Angeles.OK, now suppose the guy says Mexico City and the cop asks for a green card. Again, I guess a lot of them are dumb, or they'd just say "I'm a citizen now; I don't have a green card any more." I certainly have no objection to police using the stupidity of possible criminals to their advantage in enforcing the law. I do have concerns (as does Jeb Bush) with the possibility that someone who is a citizen, gives their name, but says they don't have ID, being arrested. Others here seem to be sure that is going to happen; I personally have no idea if it will. |
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Posted by bmtlines on Wed Apr 28 10:26:48 2010, in response to Re: Violent Arizona Protests, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 23:49:31 2010. I dunno. Blocking the street to go buy donuts isn't a crime. Blocking the street to to put up garage sale signs isn't a crime. But blocking the street to hire someone looking for work is?Blocking the street to pick up a prostitute is a crime - so is blocking the street to buy drugs. The crime that they should go after is tax evasion. Call it "blocking the street to facilitate tax evasion". The real solution to ending illegal immigration is to treat it just like child porn. Make the illegal immigrants untouchable: 1. Any HR employee failing to obtain proper paperwork that results in the hiring of an illegal immigrant will go to jail for 5 years (taking orders from a boss will NOT be considered an excuse). The HR director will go to jail for 10 years and his company will pay a fine of $10,000 per day for every day the illegal was employed. 2. Any individual hiring an ilegal immigrant as a "handyman" or day labor will be fined $10,000 per day per worker. 3. Any landlord leasing a house or apartment to an illegal immigrant will be fined $10,000 per day for every day the illegal lives there 4. Any state or local government agency whose contractor or subcontractor hires an illegal will lose all federal funding for 10 years. Eliminate the demand and the problem will be SOLVED! |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Apr 28 10:31:15 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by AlM on Wed Apr 28 09:35:48 2010. Mexico Warns CitizensMEXICO CITY (Reuters) — Mexico warned its citizens living in or traveling to Arizona that they could be “harassed” there because of its new immigration law. The foreign ministry issued a statement saying that Mexicans there should contact their consular representatives if they are unlawfully detained. “Until it is clearly defined under what criteria, when, where and who the authorities will check, you should assume that every Mexican citizen could be harassed and questioned without cause at any moment,” the statement said. This last part of the article is quite interesting. I don't believe it's possible to have dual citizenship with the US anymore, right? Too bad this new law is making Arizona look pretty bad... |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Apr 28 11:01:24 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by AlM on Wed Apr 28 10:16:21 2010. There's nothing in the law that says that people can be arrested for not having id, although such hysteria is certainly common in the media. The law says that police officers should make a "reasonable" investigation yet all I hear from opponents are examples of unconstitutional, unreasonable investigations.That's why I think that the law will have to be repealed. Once you have to debate fantasies instead of facts, then you have already lost. It's no longer a debate about facts. It's the same approach that the right uses against Obama with claims of FEMA camps and death boards. You can say that it's ridiculous and not in the law, but it's moved to emotions and you can't reason with emotions. Many times I have responded to outlandish claims by bingbong that she read the law, but she's not interested in reading the law. Her mind is made up and she continues to use fantasies in her debate. What I think that a law such as this would do at a minimum is to force police departments to cooperate with ICE. I don't know how it is in Arizona, but in California there's a range. The LAPD has a special order that prevents them from asking anyone any questions regarding their immigration status. Not that doing so would be illegal, but they feel that such questions would erode the trust of the community and lead to higher crime. Other PD's in California, like the LASD, do ask such questions (the LASD only in the jails IINM). This is a legitimate argument against a law such as this. The argument that this law will lead to the sweeping up and deportment of Hispanic US citizens is equivalent to the death panel argument IMO. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Apr 28 11:04:25 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Apr 28 10:31:15 2010. Yes, you can be a dual citizen with the US. Although the US citizenship oath requires that you renounce foreign allegiances, countries such as Mexico, the United Kingdom, Ireland, etc don't hold that against you. But I'm not sure about the other way. If you are born in the US and become a citizen of another country, I'm not sure what that would mean. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Apr 28 11:22:41 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by AlM on Wed Apr 28 09:35:48 2010. I take back all those bad things I said about him when he was governor (well, some of them) :) |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 28 11:45:46 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 27 19:19:39 2010. Lame-ass arrows can't do anything to stop smallpox blnkets. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 28 11:53:11 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 27 16:47:21 2010. It's the US Governmemnt that wants you to carry a US Passport when going into Canada for when you come back. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 28 11:54:19 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 27 17:02:29 2010. i was given a hard time in Montreal.They must read OTChat. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Apr 28 11:55:01 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 28 11:45:46 2010. According to wikipedia (I know) the indigenous population when Europeans arrived was likely between 15 and 18 million people. 400 years later after a century of trying to reverse the trend there are still only 5 million (3.5 million not including mixed race). If this were any other country besides our own the term "genocide" might get tossed around. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Apr 28 11:55:40 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 28 11:53:11 2010. It's both now isn't it? |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Apr 28 11:58:39 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 28 11:54:19 2010. lol |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 28 12:01:53 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by BMTLines on Tue Apr 27 17:34:34 2010. Just build a Berlin style Wall across the southern border complete with minefields and machine gun nests.That would cost trillions of dollars in any 10 year period. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Apr 28 12:02:51 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 28 11:54:19 2010. lol.You know who does get a hard time trying to get into Canada? Anyone with a DUI. I heard that they consider a DUI to be a felony and I know at least one person that was denied entry because of it. Oh, and that reminds me. With all of this talk about naturalized citizens, it should be noted that naturalized citizens have never been treated the same as US born on immigration matters. A guy that I used to work with went to Canada from NY with coworkers and when they came back to the US all of the coworkers were allowed back in, but because he was naturalized he was required to use a passport to enter Canada and come back. This was 20 years ago when natural born citizens only needed a drivers license. They made him call a relative and fax a copy of his (passport?, naturalization papers?) paperwork before he was let back in. He couldn't get hold of anyone and was stuck at the border for hours. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 12:32:01 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Apr 28 09:06:17 2010. :) |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 28 12:32:10 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 22:01:06 2010. Hav they mentioned death panels yet? |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Apr 28 12:32:43 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 28 12:32:10 2010. Practically. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 28 12:33:11 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 27 21:02:41 2010. They are gonna ask you for papers when you are jogging down the street. If you don't have them, you get arrested. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 12:35:23 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by Easy on Wed Apr 28 09:40:58 2010. "Can you stop now with the silliness? "OK.....SO GO AND TRAVEL THEN TO AZ AND TAKE A WALK ON ANY ROAD AND LETS SEE EXACTLY WHO GETS STOPPED AND WHO DOES NOT....EH? FAIR IS FAIR...RIGHT? EH? DUDE.....LOOK AT ALL THE ACCUSATIONS LEVED AT THE NJ STATE TROOP DEPT FOR PROFILING DRIVERS ON THE HIGHWAYS...YEA..IT DOES HAPPEN.....IF YOU DON'T BELIVE IT OR YOU CHOOSE TO CALL IT SILLINESS....THEN YOU'RE FOOLING YOURSELF BIGTIME..... |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Apr 28 12:35:30 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 28 12:33:11 2010. And then they take your kidney and give it to a rich American. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 12:36:38 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by Easy on Wed Apr 28 09:56:01 2010. "Of course not."Do you actually THINK like a law enforcement person? eh? you would think otherwise if you were.... |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Apr 28 12:38:27 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 12:35:23 2010. I'm not going to read anymore of your moronic posts. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 28 12:39:14 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 27 10:33:33 2010. Falling back on open lies again, in the title? Police asking you for ID is not the same as "Papieren, bitte".Besides, what do you care? You favor government that is increasingly totalitarian. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 28 12:51:08 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 27 22:48:49 2010. From what I've heard, the DOJ is going to make somebody else challenge it first and then file an amicus brief in support of the challenge. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 12:58:01 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by Easy on Wed Apr 28 12:38:27 2010. lol.....to you they are...to other they are not....Read this: "According to the Arizona immigration law, immigrants unable to produce documents showing they are allowed to be in the U.S. could be arrested, jailed for up to six months and fined $2,500. If someone is found to be in the State of Arizona illegally, they would be turned over to federal immigration officers. That was from today's NYDAILYNEWS.COM This new law is so ripe for abuse......you can't or refuse to see it! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 13:03:12 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 28 08:44:27 2010. They always have been, but they don't admit it. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 28 13:03:20 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 27 23:20:24 2010. It's Republican corporate interests that support illegal immigration. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 13:03:58 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Apr 27 22:04:11 2010. This isn't about race. It's about people coming here ILLEGALLY. there is no problem with LEGAL mexicans. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 13:04:51 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 28 12:33:11 2010. Oh stop it. That is not going to happen. Perfect example of leftist propaganda hysterics. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Apr 28 13:05:01 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Apr 28 10:31:15 2010. Mexico Warns Citizens about traveling to Arizona.Woah! The law is already working! ;) |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Apr 28 13:05:02 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 10:33:11 2010. And apparently Jan Brewer is all about opening the borders, despite her claims to the contrary. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 28 13:06:20 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Wed Apr 28 00:19:40 2010. Can you imagine what Barry Goldwater would say about this law? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Apr 28 13:07:24 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 28 12:33:11 2010.  And I'm made fun of for insisting that the death panels exist. Jeesh. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Apr 28 13:10:41 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 28 13:03:20 2010. Yes, but not solely. Both Republicans and Democrats in power support illegal immigration for different reasons. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Apr 28 13:11:40 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Apr 28 13:05:02 2010. Ok |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 13:16:35 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 07:49:09 2010. This law isn't allowing people getting "stopped on the street". It only applies when the person is doing something in which there is already an interaction that they are being stopped for. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 13:17:34 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 12:58:01 2010. From the NYDAILYNES.COM:How Arizona's law will hurt America: Mayor Michael Bloomberg assails the new immigration statute By Michael Bloomberg Wednesday, April 28th 2010, 4:00 AM A new Arizona law requiring local police officers to stop anyone they might reasonably suspect of being here illegally may produce unintended consequences that could hurt not only Arizona, but all of America. The law is so vaguely written that it may force officers to stop people who look or dress differently - or who speak a foreign language, or English with an accent. Already, stories are appearing about foreign travelers crossing Arizona off their vacation lists. Who wants to visit the Grand Canyon if you could end up getting hassled by the police - or arrested - if you leave your passport at the hotel? Foreign business leaders may also think twice about visiting or investing in Arizona. While Arizona may suffer, as long as those visitors and investors still come to America, the country will be fine. In fact, we hope more of them come to New York, where we would welcome them with open arms. But if some of them stop visiting and investing in America, and if other states follow Arizona's lead - as some are now discussing - the economic consequences will be felt in middle-class communities across the country. American citizens would lose jobs as businesses downsize, and governments with lower tax revenues would lay off teachers, firefighters and police officers. As a result, our country would have a harder time climbing out of the national recession. Requiring local police to stop anyone they suspect of being here illegally may also hurt public health and safety. In New York City, we protect the confidentiality of all residents when they interact with government, because whenever someone is afraid to report a crime, for any reason, it makes all of us less safe. Whenever someone is afraid to go to the hospital to get treated for sickness or disease, it puts all of us at risk. Whenever someone is afraid to report exploitation in the workforce, it hurts all of us. Since our earliest Colonial days, people have come here from around the world - with few restrictions - to better their lives. Today, we continue to rely on people from every continent to lay the foundation for our future economic growth, both through their innovative new ideas and their manual labor. But the simple fact is that our policies are too restrictive given American companies' demand for workers and American consumers' demand for products and services. Basic free market economics tells us we need more legal immigrants - immigrants who will start new businesses and help build the foundation for future economic growth. Laws that have the potential to hassle them could prove devastating to our economy. From a practical point of view, police officers have no rational way of knowing in advance who is a citizen, or a tourist, or a business traveler, or a legal permanent resident, or a foreign student, or a temporary worker - and who is not. And this could lead immigrants who own businesses to pack up and leave and take their companies' jobs with them. Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon understands the harmful impact that this law could have on his city, and he is weighing a legal challenge. Certainly, a very strong case could be made that the law is unconstitutional. But Gordon also understands that the real solution lies in Washington. We need Congress to pass comprehensive immigration reform - and fast. In the weeks and months ahead, I will do everything possible to join with Gordon and others to advance reform that strengthens our economy, secures our borders and honors our history. What's at stake here is nothing less than America's international reputation as the most open and attractive marketplace in the world, and our standing as the world's strongest economic superpower. Immigrants have always been at the heart of American culture and capitalism, and casting suspicious eyes on legal immigrants will only harm both. Bloomberg is mayor of New York City. |
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Posted by TheCiskoKid on Wed Apr 28 13:17:50 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 28 13:03:20 2010. If this is true, and I do not believe that it is, then why do the democrats and liberals also support illegal immigration? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 13:21:29 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 13:03:58 2010. Can you spot an Illegal alien? what does one look like? eh? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 13:23:20 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Tue Apr 27 23:16:00 2010. That still wouldn't be profiling. If there are more illegal Mexicans in Arizona than illegal Italian immigrants, more of them will be arrested. That's the law of averages. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Apr 28 13:23:32 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 13:16:35 2010. Not necessarily. Since being on government or private property has been declared to be a misdemeanor (trespassing), it makes being in Arizona illegally a crime. Many PD's already investigated the immigration status of people involved in a crime, but now being illegal is in itself a crime. This is why people are hysterically claiming that profiling will be used. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 13:23:32 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 13:04:51 2010. lol.....a rightist way of thinking...eh? remember...we are talking about LOCAL police.....becoming immigration police now....get it? better carry proper in AZ! or else.... |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 13:24:12 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by Easy on Wed Apr 28 12:35:30 2010. Your silliness is getting rather boring now.... |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Apr 28 13:25:45 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by TheCiskoKid on Wed Apr 28 13:17:50 2010. It is true and many Democrats support illegal immigration for compassionate reasons. But it's not black and white. I think that many people in both parties support illegal immigration for a combination of economic and compassionate reasons as they are not mutually exclusive. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 13:26:50 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Apr 28 13:07:24 2010. Say ChrisR16...what's that on your head? are you trying to "wi-fi" some aliens out there? lol
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Posted by Easy on Wed Apr 28 13:27:13 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 13:23:20 2010. Yeah, it's crazy. If 90% (WAG) of the illegal immigrants in Arizona are Mexican, why would the percentage of people arrested be any less? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 13:29:15 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 27 21:02:41 2010. " unless you are doing something that6 warrants suspicion."Littering? Jaywalking? eh? what sort of provocation are you talking about? eh? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 13:33:19 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by Easy on Wed Apr 28 13:25:45 2010. Why not ask "Lady Liberty" in the harbor what she thinks the next time you're in NYC...eh?
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 13:34:53 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 13:23:20 2010. So where do you think the focus will be for local law enforcement agenies? as far as who to question on the streets or anywhere else? eh? |
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