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Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Apr 28 11:01:24 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by AlM on Wed Apr 28 10:16:21 2010. There's nothing in the law that says that people can be arrested for not having id, although such hysteria is certainly common in the media. The law says that police officers should make a "reasonable" investigation yet all I hear from opponents are examples of unconstitutional, unreasonable investigations.That's why I think that the law will have to be repealed. Once you have to debate fantasies instead of facts, then you have already lost. It's no longer a debate about facts. It's the same approach that the right uses against Obama with claims of FEMA camps and death boards. You can say that it's ridiculous and not in the law, but it's moved to emotions and you can't reason with emotions. Many times I have responded to outlandish claims by bingbong that she read the law, but she's not interested in reading the law. Her mind is made up and she continues to use fantasies in her debate. What I think that a law such as this would do at a minimum is to force police departments to cooperate with ICE. I don't know how it is in Arizona, but in California there's a range. The LAPD has a special order that prevents them from asking anyone any questions regarding their immigration status. Not that doing so would be illegal, but they feel that such questions would erode the trust of the community and lead to higher crime. Other PD's in California, like the LASD, do ask such questions (the LASD only in the jails IINM). This is a legitimate argument against a law such as this. The argument that this law will lead to the sweeping up and deportment of Hispanic US citizens is equivalent to the death panel argument IMO. |