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Re: Violent Arizona Protests

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 26 22:52:30 2010, in response to Re: Violent Arizona Protests, posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 26 22:46:26 2010.

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That's not all I get ... if you were getting any, would you be here? :)

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Re: Violent Arizona Protests

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 26 22:52:45 2010, in response to Re: Violent Arizona Protests, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 26 22:52:03 2010.

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No se apoye contra la puerta.

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Re: Violent Arizona Protests

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 26 22:53:18 2010, in response to Re: Violent Arizona Protests, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 26 22:52:30 2010.

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Thanks but she's you wife - I'll pass :)

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Re: Violent Arizona Protests

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 26 22:53:23 2010, in response to Re: Violent Arizona Protests, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 26 22:47:59 2010.

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Yes ... perhaps you and Train Dick can enroll in a remedial. I'll chip in. :)

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Re: Violent Arizona Protests

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 26 22:54:04 2010, in response to Re: Violent Arizona Protests, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 26 22:52:45 2010.

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LOL. I remember those on every subway car. We're so divided as a nation.

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Re: Violent Arizona Protests

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 26 22:56:43 2010, in response to Re: Violent Arizona Protests, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 26 22:49:09 2010.

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Saddest part is that there are some (who pooked out of the woodwork between then and now) who actually come here to have "an intelligent discussion" ...



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Re: Violent Arizona Protests

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 26 22:59:12 2010, in response to Re: Violent Arizona Protests, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 26 22:52:03 2010.

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Sí. La derecha extrema.

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Re: Violent Arizona Protests

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 26 23:00:12 2010, in response to Re: Violent Arizona Protests, posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 26 22:53:18 2010.

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Nah ... you'd fail. :)

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Re: Violent Arizona Protests

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Mon Apr 26 23:00:17 2010, in response to Re: Violent Arizona Protests, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 26 22:56:43 2010.

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I tried to have an "intelligent discussion" here. I got yelled at by Chris and Luchie too much that I decided to get my point across and be over-dramatic at the same time.

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Re: Violent Arizona Protests

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 26 23:00:28 2010, in response to Re: Violent Arizona Protests, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 26 22:56:43 2010.

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"there are some who actually come here to have "an intelligent discussion" ...

Yeah but then "they" wouldn't be reading any of your posts. :)

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Re: Violent Arizona Protests

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 26 23:01:26 2010, in response to Re: Violent Arizona Protests, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 26 23:00:12 2010.

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Thanks but I don't accept the challange :)

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Re: Violent Arizona Protests

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 26 23:05:38 2010, in response to Re: Violent Arizona Protests, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Mon Apr 26 23:00:17 2010.

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so you admit to being a drama queen?

Luchie?

I have not really yelled at you. We disagree, but it's not like I'm yelling at you.

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Re: Violent Arizona Protests

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 26 23:06:45 2010, in response to Re: Violent Arizona Protests, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Mon Apr 26 23:00:17 2010.

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There are some folks here worthy of the effort ... and those folks are a treat. But for the fools, it's always fun to put on the rubber nose. :)

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Re: Violent Arizona Protests

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 26 23:07:57 2010, in response to Re: Violent Arizona Protests, posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 26 23:00:28 2010.

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Thanks for the proff!



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Re: Violent Arizona Protests

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 26 23:08:17 2010, in response to Re: Violent Arizona Protests, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 26 23:05:38 2010.

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I don't know if he means me or the other Chris, but I wasn't yelling either. This is a conversation and debate...nothing personal or brain surgery either.

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Re: Violent Arizona Protests

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Mon Apr 26 23:08:17 2010, in response to Re: Violent Arizona Protests, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 26 23:05:38 2010.

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Of course I admit to being overly dramatic. It's my Sicilian heritage coming out. Whenever I try to emphasize points I tend to raise my voice a little and get a little dramatic. It tells a much better story.

You really haven't yelled at me. I threw that in to see if you were paying attention to everything I posted and not just automatically disagreeing with me.

You've passed the test, young padwan.

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Re: Violent Arizona Protests

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 26 23:09:38 2010, in response to Re: Violent Arizona Protests, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 26 23:08:17 2010.

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Agreed ... brain surgery would ruin everything. :)

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Re: Violent Arizona Protests

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Mon Apr 26 23:10:06 2010, in response to Re: Violent Arizona Protests, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 26 23:08:17 2010.

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Point taken. If everyone on this board took everything personally, we'd all be in a place with padded walls....

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Re: Violent Arizona Protests

Posted by Bingbong on Mon Apr 26 23:17:48 2010, in response to Re: Violent Arizona Protests, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 26 23:07:57 2010.

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Knew that all along.....

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Re: Violent Arizona Protests

Posted by Bingbong on Mon Apr 26 23:20:11 2010, in response to Re: Violent Arizona Protests, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 26 22:56:43 2010.

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It's all fun and games till someone ends up in a funnel....

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Re: Violent Arizona Protests

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 26 23:20:16 2010, in response to Re: Violent Arizona Protests, posted by Bingbong on Mon Apr 26 23:17:48 2010.

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and you still deny being the same person? For shame, wingding!

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Re: Violent Arizona Protests

Posted by Bingbong on Mon Apr 26 23:21:59 2010, in response to Re: Violent Arizona Protests, posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 26 23:20:16 2010.

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I'm the same person I've always been. Do keep hoping you'll change, though you haven't yet....

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Apr 26 23:45:11 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 26 22:22:47 2010.

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They're not the mainstream left; note how the peaceful protesters fled when the extremists arrived.

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Mon Apr 26 23:46:30 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Apr 26 23:45:11 2010.

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Neither the right nor the left have majority violent protesters. There are "fringe" elements on both sides that grab all of the attention.

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Apr 26 23:46:38 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 26 22:41:50 2010.

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Arizona needs/needed to take a step to combat the problem. This measure is not the correct step, and I have said repeatedly what step needed to be taken, not buying Arizona's poverty claim.

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 26 23:48:38 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Apr 26 23:46:38 2010.

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It's not a one step solution. Nothing wrong with what they are doing.

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by Easy on Mon Apr 26 23:49:35 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Mon Apr 26 23:46:30 2010.

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Not many violent protesters in the American right. Tons on the left. Tons!

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 26 23:49:48 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Mon Apr 26 23:46:30 2010.

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Yet none of the Usual (left-leaning lemming) Suspects seem to want to acknowledge that there were any.

Add to Carmen Santiago, smaz, italian stallion and ringding. Where in thorld are they? hahahhahahahahhhahhahah

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Apr 26 23:54:34 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 26 23:48:38 2010.

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The first step though would have been to activate the AZ National Guard and send it to the border, under Border Patrol auspices.

The problem is that it's being made political when it need not be done that way, because Arizona has gubernatorial elections upcoming.

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Mon Apr 26 23:54:51 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by Easy on Mon Apr 26 23:49:35 2010.

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Please.

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 26 23:55:44 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by Easy on Mon Apr 26 23:49:35 2010.

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true. the left goes out to confront police and get arrested. it's their goal. the right will pick up their garbage.

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Mon Apr 26 23:55:58 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Apr 26 23:46:38 2010.

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I'll re-post this here:

In all seriousness, I am not happy with the negative attention that the bill brings onto the state of Arizona and I believe it is being used by opportunistic Republicans: Jan Brewer, John McCain, Joe Arpaio, and JD Hayworth as well as opportunistic Democrats: Raul Grijalva, Terry Goddard, Luis Gutierrez to reflect two diametrically opposite viewpoints on immigration reform.

It's a bad bill buti t's not the end of the world and in all honesty it'll likely get thrown out. It's actually accomplished something in that it has FINALLY gotten people to talk about realistic solutions to the border problem. However, again, the bad press and negative attention it brings to Arizona leaves something to be desired.

But yes...I will take a wait and see approach...a wait and see to see if this was actually the spark that spurred meaningful discussion on immigration reform and to see what the effects, if any, of this bill actually are.

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Apr 26 23:56:45 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by Easy on Mon Apr 26 23:49:35 2010.

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say what ?


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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by Easy on Mon Apr 26 23:57:28 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Mon Apr 26 23:54:51 2010.

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I'm serious. Have you ever been to a protest in SF?

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by Easy on Mon Apr 26 23:58:40 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Apr 26 23:56:45 2010.

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There are many more violent left protesters than violent right protesters in the US.

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Mon Apr 26 23:58:50 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by Easy on Mon Apr 26 23:57:28 2010.

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No. They don't attract crowds that I'm really comfortable in.

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Apr 26 23:59:03 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by Easy on Mon Apr 26 23:58:40 2010.

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..............ok..........

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 00:01:01 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Mon Apr 26 23:58:50 2010.

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Well if you ever go you will see lots of guys wearing bandanna masks that are taunting the police and advocating anarchy. The same type of people that you see at at the G8 summits throwing stuff through windows.

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 27 00:02:37 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 00:01:01 2010.

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Code Pink!

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 00:03:31 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Apr 26 23:59:03 2010.

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Do you disagree? I've been to "liberal" rallies and there were semi-violent protesters threatening the police. I haven't been to a teabag rally, but I haven't seen any video like that.

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 00:04:38 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 27 00:02:37 2010.

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They aren't violent. I saw them outside a recruiting office in Berkley and they were just a bunch of 60-somethings standing around.

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 27 00:07:33 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 00:04:38 2010.

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Do you see violent splinter groups of the Tea Party forming?

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 00:08:33 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 27 00:07:33 2010.

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I hear that KKK recruitment is going well. ;)

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 27 00:12:19 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 00:08:33 2010.

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Oh. Well, I think we may see violent confrontations between Tea Parties and groups who go out to attack them.

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 00:13:53 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 27 00:12:19 2010.

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Name the place!

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 27 00:14:46 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 00:13:53 2010.

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It's bound to happen.

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 00:15:09 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 27 00:14:46 2010.

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I want in.

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 27 00:15:36 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 00:15:09 2010.

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So you want to kill a Tea Party attendee?

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 27 00:16:35 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 00:15:09 2010.

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Wanna borrow one of my Louisville sluggers? :)

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 27 00:17:05 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 27 00:16:35 2010.

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What on earth do you use one for?

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