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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jan 17 14:51:31 2006 A few of us on this board have this car. I just got a recall notice.The gist of it is noted below. "There is a potential for the rear sub-frame bushings to crack due to accelerated corrosion due to the car being operated in salt laden condition in the winter. All cars 2002-2005 are effected. They will recall the car at no cost and fix it, if the problem has started. They are extending the warranty in that rear area to 13 years , unlimited mileage." So Altima owners, be on the lookout for this letter! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 17 14:52:34 2006, in response to Nissan Altima Problems, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jan 17 14:51:31 2006. Buy American! |
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Posted by BIE on Tue Jan 17 14:53:52 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 17 14:52:34 2006. How can you tell anymore? |
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Posted by 1C/Ballston on Tue Jan 17 14:55:33 2006, in response to Nissan Altima Problems, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jan 17 14:51:31 2006. I traded my Altima in last August. I loved that car, but with the baby and all, the trunk was getting too cumbersome to fit things in. We're totally not minivan people so we traded it in for a Pathfinder. I know it doesn't get the best gas mileage but since I rarely drive during the week since I can take the bus to work, I don't really care. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jan 17 14:58:41 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by 1C/Ballston on Tue Jan 17 14:55:33 2006. The Pathfinder is a great vehicle. You made a good choice. Good luck!You are smart taking the bus to work! |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jan 17 15:06:53 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 17 14:52:34 2006. The Altima is assembled at the Nissan plant in Smyrna, Tennessee by American labor.Most Japanese cars sold in the US are built here and have been for some time. Many Hondas are assembled in Maryland and Toyotas are built in California, IIRC. By contrast, many GM cars are actually assembled in Canada! I had a '94 Altima that was also built here. My '87 Stanza, which the Altima replaced, was built in Japan. Both were good cars but the Stanza was a better built vehicle. |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Tue Jan 17 15:09:20 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jan 17 15:06:53 2006. Buy "Japanese"! (which seems to be quasi-American those days anyway)For a REAL Japanese product, try looking at trains lol |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jan 17 15:13:52 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by New Brunswick Station on Tue Jan 17 15:09:20 2006. I had plenty of American cars. That's why I have a Japanese now. |
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Posted by BIE on Tue Jan 17 15:17:01 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jan 17 15:06:53 2006. "Many Hondas are assembled in Maryland"actually, Honda's big US assembly plant is in Marysville, Ohio. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Jan 17 15:54:31 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jan 17 15:06:53 2006. In the auto industry, Canada and Mexico are considered parts of the American (as opposed to foreign) market. The new Ford Fusion, as an example, is considered a domestic car even though it's built in Mexico. Even stranger, the Chrysler 300 is also considered a domestic car even though Chrysler is German-owned and the car is built in CanadaOn the other hand, cars built in the United States by foreign companies other than Chrysler are considered imports. This is true even for car models sold only in the United States, for example the Nissan Armada or Honda Accord (the foreign version of the Accord, sold here as the Acura TSX, is very different from the American version). My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by WayneJay on Tue Jan 17 16:04:48 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 17 14:52:34 2006. Buy American!...As in the Big 3??? I wouldn't do that for all the tea in China. I did it twice when I was just out of college and couldn't afford anything else. Now it's Honda for me. My first was a '92 Accord which gave me 240,000 reliable miles and now a co-worker owns it. My '02 Accord has been nothing but joy. My wife has an '05 Honda Pilot which only has 9000 miles now, but I'm sure it'll be great as well. We held onto her old car which is a '94 Toyota Camry and it's still great for road trips. IMHO, The big 3 still doesn't get it, many European cars on the American market are still quirky (and expensive) so I'm staying with the Japanese for now. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Tue Jan 17 16:09:24 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jan 17 15:13:52 2006. Good move Chuck. Good luck with your Altima. Nissan's styling is not quite my cup of tea, but after them losing their way in the 90's it's clear that they're back on track with a vengence. I did drive an '05 Altima 2.5S last June as a rental in Orlando and I was quite pleased with it even though it was only 5 days. The 4-cylinder has some nice acceleration. |
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Posted by BIE on Tue Jan 17 16:10:43 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by WayneJay on Tue Jan 17 16:04:48 2006. with Honda, you ARE buying American. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Tue Jan 17 16:24:20 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by BIE on Tue Jan 17 16:10:43 2006. with Honda, you ARE buying American.Agreed - since it's built in Marysville, OH, but it's the Big 3 (GM, Ford and Chrysler) that I won't buy. |
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Posted by BIE on Tue Jan 17 16:31:43 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by WayneJay on Tue Jan 17 16:24:20 2006. Same with Nissan.Nissan North America - Smyrna/Decherd In Smyrna, Tenn., Nissan North America - Smyrna covers 5.2 million square feet and is one of the largest automotive production plants under one roof in the United States. NNA - Smyrna manufactures the Frontier, Xterra, and Altima. Production capacity at Smyrna has grown to 500,000 vehicles annually, with more than 5 million vehicles built to date. The Decherd facility produces transaxles for the Altima, as well as the Nissan Quest and Mercury Villager minivans. The current employment level of 5,800 at the Smyrna and Decherd facilities could increase by as much as 2,000 by the year 2004. Nissan North America - Smyrna 983 Nissan Drive Smyrna, TN 37167 Phone: 615/459-1400 Fax: 615/459-1554 Fax: 615/459-1555 |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 17 16:38:26 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jan 17 15:06:53 2006. I know. It was a joke. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Jan 17 17:03:38 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by BIE on Tue Jan 17 16:31:43 2006. Speaking of minivans, did Nissan produce the Mercury Villager and Ford Windstar for Ford, or was it vice versa (Ford vehicles being branded Nissan)? (All three from 1995-2000 or so look very similar, except for the brand: Ford, Mercury, or Nissan.) |
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Posted by 1C/Ballston on Tue Jan 17 17:15:19 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jan 17 14:58:41 2006. Yeah, we like it a lot. It's pretty nimble for being such a large vehicle.I love being able to take the bus everyday. It's a short walk from our place and it's a free ride since I work for them. :-) I figured if I was going to move into the service area of my buses, I was going to move someplace that I could take it everyday. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Tue Jan 17 18:15:05 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Jan 17 17:03:38 2006. The Windstar was a Ford only vehicle that they developed. The Nissan Quest/Mercury Villager was billed as a joint venture, but it was Nissan vehicle. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jan 17 20:07:28 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jan 17 15:06:53 2006. The Altima is assembled at the Nissan plant in Smyrna, Tennessee by American labor.Coincidentally, Smryna, TN is about a quite drive away from Saturn's dying facility in Spring Hill, TN. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jan 17 20:16:11 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by WayneJay on Tue Jan 17 16:04:48 2006. IMHO, The big 3 still doesn't get it, many European cars on the American market are still quirky (and expensive) so I'm staying with the Japanese for now.The problem is that there are few affordable European cars for the American marketplace. Oddly, GM and Ford could easily port over their European offerings to fix their small car line ups, but GM has refused to do so*, and Ford Americanized the Focus too much. Then we're stuck with VW selling cars with questionable reliability and Mexican assembly. In addition, the French automobile industry, despite improved reliability, are still ruling out a return to the North American marketplace. *The Vectra to Saturn L-Series conversion doesn't count. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jan 17 20:24:01 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Jan 17 15:54:31 2006. Honda Accord (the foreign version of the Accord, sold here as the Acura TSX, is very different from the American version).IIRC, from reading British automobile magazines, the few versions of Japanese cars built to North American specifications that were sold in Europe were widely panned by auto reviewers for handling awfully (by European standards) and being very boring, and most buyers weren't interested in them either with a few exceptions (i.e Toyota Rav4). In contrast, sales of Euro-spec Japanese cars are much higher than their NA-spec counterparts in Europe. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Jan 17 20:30:59 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jan 17 20:16:11 2006. The problem is that there are few affordable European cars for the American marketplace. Oddly, GM and Ford could easily port over their European offerings to fix their small car line ups, but GM has refused to do so*, and Ford Americanized the Focus too much. Then we're stuck with VW selling cars with questionable reliability and Mexican assembly.While Ford won't sell the European version of the Focus in the United States, only the outdated and inferior American version, you can still get one in a manner of speaking. The Mazda3 and Volvo S40 are both built on the European Focus's platform, and both are said to perform much the same. Volkswagen sells the German-built Passat in the United States, for not all that much more than a Mexican-built Jetta or New Beetle. My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by Karl B on Tue Jan 17 21:02:02 2006, in response to Nissan Altima Problems, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jan 17 14:51:31 2006. "All cars 2002-2005 are effected."Did they really say that? Shouldn't that be affected? |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jan 17 22:29:24 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by WayneJay on Tue Jan 17 18:15:05 2006. I had 3 Ford Windstar's. I liked all three but had various problems with each. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jan 17 22:34:51 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by Karl B on Tue Jan 17 21:02:02 2006. Shouldn't that be affected?You are correct- My bad. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Jan 17 22:40:58 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jan 17 20:24:01 2006. the few versions of Japanese cars built to North American specifications that were sold in Europe were widely panned by auto reviewers for handling awfully (by European standards) and being very boring, and most buyers weren't interested in them either with a few exceptions (i.e Toyota Rav4)You can delete the RAV4 from the list of exceptions. Toyota is producing a different version of the completely redesigned 2006 RAV4 for the American market. Our version is bigger than that being sold in other countries, so much so that it's no longer a compact SUV and competes with Toyota's own Highlander. It has a longer wheelbase than the "world" model and even comes with an available third seat.* And needless to say, it's slushbox-only. American buyers seem to want size and soft rides, but are less concerned about handling. We also want big torque-y engines, notwithstanding the fact that America's speed limits are generally lower than Europe's (albeit higher than Japan's). Oh, and we also insist on ample cup holders. Gotta have them. * = many automakers have this fetish about squeezing (tiny) third seating rows into their SUV's, Jeep went so far as to design a whole new vehicle, the Commander, when it found that the Cherokee Laredo just couldn't be engineered to accommodate the third row. I cannot explain why this fetish exists, when today's smaller families mean that fewer and fewer buyers need more than five seats (and minivans work fine for those who do). My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by Richmond Parkway on Tue Jan 17 23:30:46 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Jan 17 22:40:58 2006. The Acura MDX has a third row also. It actually nearly made me sick when I noticed it at the dealership last year. I think it's good for my 6 year old cousin, and thats just about it.My Trail Blazer EXT has a third row, and while it's not horrible, the legroom isn't that great. I'm usually driving it anyway, so I don't notice, but the few times I have sat back there, it gets uncomfortable after about an hour. I think the reason for this third row fetish is because younger people happen to like their own personal space. Think about it, most families have about 3-4 children these days. For a family of 3, squeezing all three kids in one middle row is possible, but can be uncomfortable. And uncomfortable kids = annoyed parents. Why not just throw in a small 3rd row for at least one of those kids to sit in. That way, two kids have a nice amount of space in the middle row, and one gets the back. Also, 3rd rows often fold in halves, so cargo space doesnt have to be sacraficed for one passenger to be in the rear. One would think that those families would simply opt for a minivan, but Americans like sport utilities, despite high fuel prices. I happen to enjoy driving an SUV myself, despite the whole roll over thing. If you know how to drive it properly, it wont roll over anyway. On a recent trip to Lake Placid, me and one of my brothers sat in the middle row of our truck and my other brother sat in the back on one half of the back row. We folded the other half down to accomodate more luggage. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Jan 17 23:40:04 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by Richmond Parkway on Tue Jan 17 23:30:46 2006. My Trail Blazer EXT has a third row, and while it's not horrible, the legroom isn't that great.GM is dropping the EXT version of the Trail Blazer, and within a few months will be closing the Oklahoma City plant where it, and similar models from GMC and Isuzu, are built. I think the reason for this third row fetish is because younger people happen to like their own personal space. Think about it, most families have about 3-4 children these days. They do? Not according to birth rate statistics. My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jan 17 23:50:46 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Jan 17 23:40:04 2006. The four mini-vans I had, (2) Plymouth's , and (3) Fords , had the 7 passenger seating option. The third seat in all five wasn't bad at all, except for my '87 short-wheelbase Voyager. But the mini-van is a lunker to drive around in.I loved the Voyagers , they had multiple slots in the floor. If you took out the second seat , and moved up the third, it sat in different slots and way behind the front seats. Talk about leg room! |
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Posted by Richmond Parkway on Tue Jan 17 23:52:08 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Jan 17 23:40:04 2006. GM is dropping the EXT version of the Trail Blazer, and within a few months will be closing the Oklahoma City plant where it, and similar models from GMC and Isuzu, are built.Damn, that sucks. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jan 17 23:58:42 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jan 17 23:50:46 2006. The five mini-vans I had, (2) Plymouth's , and (3) Fords , had the 7 passenger seating option. The third seat in all five wasn't bad at all, except for my '87 short-wheelbase Voyager. But the mini-van is a lunker to drive around in.I loved the Voyagers , they had multiple slots in the floor. If you took out the second seat , and moved up the third, it sat in different slots and way behind the front seats. Talk about leg room! correction "five" mini-vans , not four. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Jan 18 03:23:54 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jan 17 20:07:28 2006. quiteThat should have been quick drive... |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Jan 18 03:47:30 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Jan 17 22:40:58 2006. It's highly interesting to note that the car that started the trend of the small "cute" girly SUV is moving upwards. Before the RAV's US debut in 1996, there wasn't much in the way of a small car-based SUV with five doors. If Toyota's getting out of this market, I'd presume that they no longer see any growth, for a small carbased SUV. I'm currently borrowing a '99 RAV4 from my aunt, and it's great for hauling stuff around or carting around one or two ankle biters, but the back seat sucks for adults of any height.* Plus, for a frigging 4 cyl car with 125hp, the fuel economy blows and it handles poorly compared to my Saturn.e also want big torque-y engines, notwithstanding the fact that America's speed limits are generally lower than Europe's (albeit higher than Japan's). It's all about that 0-60 time. Especially here in the Northeast where our ramps are compromised by outdated designs. I still don't understand the desire for the shitty soft rides and oversized cars. My dad has a mid-90s Lincoln Town Car, and while he loves the soft smooth ride as he's driving, I hate it since I feel that the car is constantly skidding no matter what the conditions. Besides, most American roads are designed to be long straightaways which de-emphasize the need for handling. I cannot explain why this fetish exists Soccer Dads who are too ashamed to drive a minivan around. Plus, minivans suck at towing. *=Yeah, it's a chix car. I still haven't seen one guy who drives one here on LI or Queens. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jan 18 06:35:34 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Jan 17 23:40:04 2006. Source? |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Jan 18 08:50:47 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jan 17 20:07:28 2006. My 2003 Altima was built in Smyrna, TN. Parts came from all over the place. The engineering is Japanese.My son had been harping on me to buy "Japanese" when I had all those Chryslers & Fords. So far I'm happy I did. That being said , any car can turn out to be lemon. It's a matter of bad luck! |
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Posted by WayneJay on Wed Jan 18 09:47:49 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by Richmond Parkway on Tue Jan 17 23:30:46 2006. The Acura MDX has a third row also. It actually nearly made me sick when I noticed it at the dealership last year. I think it's good for my 6 year old cousin, and thats just about it.My wife's Honda Pilot which is the fraternal twin to the Acura MDX has the 3rd row seating and it seems to be OK. My 12 year old niece loves to ride back there and we've had one adult in the 3rd row on at least 2 occasions (it's only 6 months old). I think Honda did a great job as usual. It's a great vehicle with lots of room for whatever you need to do, has deent acceleration for a SUV. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jan 18 09:50:05 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by WayneJay on Wed Jan 18 09:47:49 2006. I'll take a 1996 (or whatever their final year was) Buick Roadmaster Wagon with rear-facing third row seats and a honkin' V8 ANY DAY. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Wed Jan 18 09:53:08 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Jan 18 03:47:30 2006. Yes, the RAV4 is growing out of that segment, but I'm sure Toyota is not abandoning the compact SUV market. I wouldn't be at all suprised if another srpings up at their Scion division. One could argue that the Scion xB may already serves that purpose. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Wed Jan 18 10:07:21 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jan 18 09:50:05 2006. Yup - that was '96 when that platform went away. I never liked station wagons, but I did get great fun out of watching one blow my friend's door off. At the time he had a '92 Nissan Stanza XE with a 5-speed manual and it was pretty quick. Well one day we were in his car and he pointed at a Roadmaster to make fun of it. Well... I guess the guy in the Roadmaster saw him pointing (and laughing) and then the challenge was on. I warned my friend that the Roadmaster had the LT1 V-8 and it was a fast car, but obviously he didn't heed my warning. So, my friend downshifted to go faster and then all of a sudden I heard the roar of that V-8 and just like that we were watching that guys dual exhausts get smaller. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 18 11:23:30 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jan 17 15:13:52 2006. American cars are funny. You could get a real lemon or you get one that runs forever. Back in high school a friend of mine had a '73 Olds Delta 88 with about 500,000 miles on it and it always started, rain, shine, snow, hail, whatever. It eventually rusted to the ground but the engine and drivetrain were as good as ever.Same goes for another HS friend who had a '70 Dodge Coronet. Rust holes in the floor but boy did it run. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jan 18 12:36:25 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jan 18 09:50:05 2006. I'll take a 1996 (or whatever their final year was) Buick Roadmaster Wagon with rear-facing third row seats and a honkin' V8 ANY DAY.Haha, Frummiemobile. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jan 18 12:40:06 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by WayneJay on Wed Jan 18 10:07:21 2006. I never liked station wagons, but I did get great fun out of watching one blow my friend's door off...I lost count of the number of 5.0-Liter Mustangs I saw in the rear view mirror when I would borrow my grandmother's 390-powered 1969 Ford Country Sedan. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jan 18 12:51:25 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Jan 18 03:47:30 2006. I'm currently borrowing a '99 RAV4 from my aunt, and it's great for hauling stuff around or carting around one or two ankle biters, but the back seat sucks for adults of any height.I rented a couple of RAV4s and loved them from a driver's perspective. I considered buying one until I rode in the back seat of a friend's. . I still don't understand the desire for the shitty soft rides and oversized cars. My dad has a mid-90s Lincoln Town Car, and while he loves the soft smooth ride as he's driving, I hate it since I feel that the car is constantly skidding no matter what the conditions. Besides, most American roads are designed to be long straightaways which de-emphasize the need for handling. If American roads are long straightaways, what's wrong with big, floaty cars? That's what they're designed to do best. I've noticed that newer full-sized cars, probably since they cater to old people and fleets rather than families, are a lot floatier than the '60s-'70s full-sizers I've driven or ridden in. I came close to buying a 1998 Deville, but I'll admit cornering was little iffy in it. My '94 Chrysler LHS handled like a sports car, and the '96 New Yorker that replaced it isn't quite as good (different target market), but it's way better than the Cadillac. I wonder how the new 300 handles. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Jan 18 13:16:53 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by WayneJay on Wed Jan 18 09:53:08 2006. Yes, the RAV4 is growing out of that segment, but I'm sure Toyota is not abandoning the compact SUV market. I wouldn't be at all suprised if another srpings up at their Scion division. One could argue that the Scion xB may already serves that purpose.Toyota's introducing another SUV in a few months. It'll then have six SUV's in the U.S. market, excluding Scion and Lexus but including the rarely seen Land Cruiser. The new model, the FJ40, will be a rugged vehicle designed for heavy off-road use, an obvious competitor for the Jeep Wrangler. It's supposed to start around $25K, though given way Toyota dealers love to price-gouge it'll surely cost you a lot more to snag one. My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 18 13:39:51 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jan 18 12:36:25 2006. My 8th grade rebbe had a '73 Chevy Kingswood Estate. Man, that thing was HUGE. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Jan 18 14:14:32 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Jan 18 13:16:53 2006. Toyota's introducing another SUV in a few months. It'll then have six SUV's in the U.S. market, excluding Scion and Lexus but including the rarely seen Land Cruiser. The new model, the FJ40, will be a rugged vehicle designed for heavy off-road use, an obvious competitor for the Jeep Wrangler. It's supposed to start around $25K, though given way Toyota dealers love to price-gouge it'll surely cost you a lot more to snag one.Judging from the pics that I saw of the new FJ40, it's aiming for the Honda Element market and the rugged-off roading masculine SUV. The enlarged RAV4 is much better looking than the bland Highlander, but I wonder if Toyota will lose sales for upsizing? |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Jan 18 14:15:16 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by WayneJay on Wed Jan 18 09:53:08 2006. One could argue that the Scion xB may already serves that purpose.The Scion xB isn't exactly the kind of car that I'd take off-roading. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Jan 18 14:17:29 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Jan 18 13:16:53 2006. It'll then have six SUV's in the U.S. market, excluding Scion and Lexus but including the rarely seen Land Cruiser.The Land Cruiser was once a very popular SUV where I live (in Southeast Queens) because it was considered the most desirable vehicle to own back home in Caribbean especially in Haiti where the roads are in poor shape in most of the country. I wonder if it's the same with other immigrant groups from the third world. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jan 18 14:17:45 2006, in response to Re: Nissan Altima Problems, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Jan 18 14:15:16 2006. The Scion xB isn't exactly the kind of car that I'd take off-roading.The RAV4 is? |
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