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Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 17 11:32:50 2021

This has always irked me and I have not been able to find a definitive answer in any of the literature I can find.

None of the stations on the Far Rockaway branch between Valley Stream and Far Rockaway have a crossover stairway, except Gibson. This is odd, since Gibson is close to the Valley Stream station, which offers easy access to east and westbound trains. Why would the next station on the line need a crossover?

I always thought that in the later years of Rock Beach/Far Rock service, the trains that used the Jamaica Bay trestle terminated at Gibson, and the trains ran through Jamaica and the Atlantic branch terminated at Rockaway Beach. However, according to a new article on ForgottenNY, Kevin Walsh states that the Higbie Avenue station (which used to be located between the current Locust Manor station and Jamaica) was served by both Atlantic Branch and Jamaica Bay trains.

If that is so, why is there an overpass at Gibson?

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 17 12:47:11 2021, in response to Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 17 11:32:50 2021.

Gibson station was built later than the rest, around 1928, with hundreds of houses (restricted to Jewish people by the way - there was a sign along Gibson Blvd from Hewlett saying as much). There was no grade crossing at its far end. All the other stations did, except Woodmere, but Woodmere and Cedarhurst had pedestrian crossings with bells and lights mid-way through. Pre-1968 Hewlett station was on the curve.

Nothing terminated along the branch in either the Five Towns or Gibson. Loop trains changed between odd and even train number at Valley Stream.

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 17 13:12:19 2021, in response to Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 17 11:32:50 2021.

IINM, the service pattern prior to the trestle fire that ended service was that trains ran local from Flatbush Avenue to Rockaway Beach, and express trains (express from Ozone Park to past Broad Channel) ran from Penn Station to Penn Station via Far Rockaway and completed the loop.

Trains stopped at Ozone Park to provide transfers, with trains stopping one in front of the other for a down-platform (or up-platform) transfer.

This means that the Hammels Wye was not ordinarily used.

I hope someone can correct me on all of this.

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 17 13:15:24 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 17 13:12:19 2021.

The FR Branch itself got half-hourly service - half Loop trains, half trains as we have now. From the bridge fire to May 1972, off-peak mid-day weekday service to Far Rockaway (Brooklyn) and Long Beach (Penn Station) ran every 45 minutes.

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 17 14:49:42 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 17 12:47:11 2021.

I have to disagree with you about Gibson not having a grade crossing. Here is an aerial photo of Gibson station in 1929, with the surrounding residential area. You can clearly see a road crossing the tracks on the western (Valley Stream) end of the station.

ww.trainsarefun.com/lirr/farrockawaybranch/GIbson-Station-aerial_c.1929.jpg

Interestingly, though, this photograph doesn't show the overpass; however, a photo from 1967 on the same site does show the overpass. All of the stations on the Far Rock branch had low level platforms until the M-1's came in the early 1970's. Why would the station need an overpass?

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 17 15:37:55 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 17 14:49:42 2021.

A grade crossing, yes, Dubois Avenue. I said no pedestrian crossing mid-platform. I lived in Gibson through the 1970's, the 3rd block down Munro Blvd from the station building at the near corner.

The station lacked at grade crossing at each end and no pedestrian crossing. Woodmere had the latter.

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 17 16:34:57 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 17 15:37:55 2021.

Why should Gibson have a pedestrian crossing mid-platform but none of the other stations do? Believe me, there were many times a crossing at Cedarhurst would have been very handy.

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 17 16:58:55 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 17 16:34:57 2021.

By 1927, they probably frowned upon pedestrian crossings. They built the overpass at some point. They also had to built a shoe fly track to construct the overpass of Peninsula Blvd, the grade starting at the south end of Gibson station. Then they put houses on the foooprint of the shoe fly track.

Original Hewlett had a grade crossing at each end, as did Inwood.

Woodmere and Cedarhurst had pedestrian crossings mid-way. My grandmother in the 1960's used the Cedarhurst one to get to Daitch Shopwell with her shopping wagon, but missed it in 1968 . She was arthritic, but Washington Avenue is not that far away.

I don't remember if Lawrence had a pedestrian crossing.

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 17 17:16:50 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 17 15:37:55 2021.

Why should Gibson have a pedestrian crossing mid-platform but none of the other stations do? Believe me, there were many times a crossing at Cedarhurst would have been very handy.

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Aaron on Wed Feb 17 20:09:33 2021, in response to Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 17 11:32:50 2021.

I lived there from 1985-1988 on Fordham Street. I used the overpass every morning I took the train westbound. Otherwise, I would have had to walk to Dubois and cross over the tracks. There are a lot of houses on the west side of the LIRR up to the park, so maybe it was just practical...

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 17 20:44:00 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 17 16:58:55 2021.

What do you mean by pedestrian crossing? Do you mean a mid-station crossing over the tracks when the stations were still low-level?

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 17 22:04:08 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 17 16:58:55 2021.

What do you mean by pedestrian crossing? Do you mean a mid-station crossing over the tracks when the stations were still low-level?

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by northshore on Wed Feb 17 22:46:55 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 17 13:12:19 2021.

I can verify personally that Rockaway Park trains came from Penn Station Manhattan with no transfers

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Feb 17 23:44:26 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by northshore on Wed Feb 17 22:46:55 2021.

How long was that trip?

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Feb 18 07:23:49 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by northshore on Wed Feb 17 22:46:55 2021.

What routing is that? Via Broad Channel or Via Far Rockaway?

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 18 07:31:31 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 17 22:04:08 2021.

Yes. Westwood and Malverne have them now at one end of each station platform. Woodmere and Cedarhurst had theirs around where the station buildings are.

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 18 07:32:08 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by northshore on Wed Feb 17 22:46:55 2021.

There were always exceptions.

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by northshore on Thu Feb 18 10:56:21 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Feb 17 23:44:26 2021.

I boarded at Woodside and the trip to Playland was about 30 minutes

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by northshore on Thu Feb 18 10:57:21 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Feb 18 07:23:49 2021.

via Broad Channel (pre trestle fire)

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Feb 18 12:35:13 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by northshore on Thu Feb 18 10:56:21 2021.

Wow
I wish

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Avid Reader on Thu Feb 18 12:42:47 2021, in response to Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 17 11:32:50 2021.

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 18 12:46:27 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by northshore on Thu Feb 18 10:56:21 2021.

How long would that take now on the Q53 ?

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 18 12:48:53 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Avid Reader on Thu Feb 18 12:42:47 2021.

Wooden steps and railing ? Is that photo current ?

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Feb 18 13:20:43 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 17 13:15:24 2021.

At one point, didn’t Long Beach trains go to Atlantic Terminal, and Far Rockaway trains ended at Valley Stream like West Hempstead trains do today?

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 18 13:35:05 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Feb 18 13:20:43 2021.

Weekdays from 1972 to 1998, Long Beach was a Brooklyn Branch off peak.
Several Babylon train stopped at Valley Stream to make connections when a Long Beach train was not present at that part of the hour when a shuttle ran. When it was a Long Beach train, it seemed more people transferred to the Far Rockaway train than remained on the Long Beach train.

Weekends from 1976 to 1998, Far Rockaway was a mess of 60 and 90 minute intervals of Jamaica and Valley Stream terminus. Initially they were using 2 train sets to cover Far Rockaway and West Hempstead. During one interval in the afternoon, a West Hempstead train started from Jamaica, and the Far Rockaway was a shuttle. They squeezed everyone into 2 cars, tight fit, and conductors refused to open additional cars.

Over the years, they extended more Far Rockaway trains from Jamaica, requiring a 3rd train set. Vestiges of that exist today in overnight weekend schedules, which are a clockface mess as they were then.

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Feb 18 13:48:36 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 18 12:46:27 2021.

Looks like 70 minutes give or take depending on the time of day, though of course now we're talking fares and frequencies reminiscent of the subway, more people and locations served, and free MetroCard / OMNY transfers that may make it less necessary to commute between these two points to begin with.

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Feb 18 13:57:44 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Feb 18 13:20:43 2021.

Slightly off-topic, but the LIRR should have dug a new tunnel under Atlantic Avenue and under the subways and accessed Lower Manhattan under the East River. Sad they couldn't.

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Feb 18 15:46:00 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 18 07:31:31 2021.

Very interesting. Didn't know that.

Why didn't Gibson have one?

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Feb 18 15:48:28 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 18 12:46:27 2021.

How long would it have taken on a Triboro Q53 at a premium fare ?

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Feb 18 15:49:59 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Aaron on Wed Feb 17 20:09:33 2021.

Not having a mid-platform overpass at Cedarhurst is a major drag. Its a long platform, capable of holding 12 cars. Someone standing mid-platform has to run either to Cedarhurst Avenue or Washington Avenue and then back in the event the train pulls in on the other side

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 18 16:07:25 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Feb 18 15:46:00 2021.

I don't know. The houses nearest the station are post war.

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by northshore on Thu Feb 18 16:08:08 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Feb 18 15:48:28 2021.

The Q53 Triboro Coach Limited took about 45-55 minutes from Woodside.


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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 18 16:09:51 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Feb 18 15:49:59 2021.

The branch has 10 car platforms. Stub tracks at the terminal can only hold 10 cars. Southbound Hewlett platform is only good for 8 cars, which used to be a freight siding. I don't know about Inwood. It was made high level when Lord Avenue was a grade crossing.

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Feb 18 16:56:29 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by northshore on Thu Feb 18 16:08:08 2021.

The last of the Triboro schedules in the early 2000s have all Q53 runs in both directions at 50 minutes long regardless of time of day or day of week.

At the very end the fare was the same as a local bus I think. I remember transferring with MetroCard from the Q35 to the Q53 and vice versa just as if I was doing any other kind of transfer, even before the MTA takeover and when the Q53 had its non-stop identity.

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Feb 18 18:08:34 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by northshore on Thu Feb 18 16:08:08 2021.

Not that I rode it that often but when I did I’d say about 45 minutes is fair.

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Charles G on Thu Feb 18 18:49:39 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 18 07:31:31 2021.

The great thing about the pedestrian crossing at Westwood is that it is the only way to cross the tracks for more than a half mile in either direction.

I have to assume that is the furthest distance that any non-terminal LIRR station is from the nearest vehicle crossing.

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 18 19:19:34 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Charles G on Thu Feb 18 18:49:39 2021.

When I commuted on the West Hempstead branch in the 1980's, it was a dangerous crossing. It was ungated. The 8 car train 907 would overshoot the station by 4 cars, disregarding the 4 to 8 car stop marker before the crossing in order to balance the loads. Passengers would run in front of the train as it approached the station, or they would miss the train.

The trigger for the Franklin Avenue crossing the other way is at the end of the platform. Any train over 4 cars platforms only the rear 4 cars. That means the gates stay down at the crossing for the entire dwell time at Westwood.

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Feb 19 02:23:17 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 18 13:35:05 2021.

Thanks Joe. I do remember riding trains straight from Brooklyn to Long Beach (and Hempstead) when I was younger, and never was quite able to remember when those Long Beach trains were diverted to Penn Station and replaced with Far Rockaway trains. I remember during the summer those Long Beach trains would fill up Jamaica, but be pretty much empty otherwise.

I also remember Huntington trains running every hour, and running a skip-stop pattern between New Hyde Park and Hicksville with Ronkonkoma trains too, but don't remember when that stopped either.

I wonder how the LIRR was able to come up with the slots in Penn Station for those extra off-peak Long Beach and Huntington trains.

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 19 06:49:40 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Feb 19 02:23:17 2021.

Until 1998, they ran 3 trains per hour to Brooklyn weekday, 2 weekends, with Far Rockawys being absent.

Huntington trains got half hour weekend service when the weekend Babylon thru-expresses ended about 15 years ago. Now they skip stop New Hyde Park/Merilllon Avenue and Carle Place/Westbury, with Ronkonkoma non stop Jamaica- Hicksville. It also means alternate Port Jeff shuttles need not go to Hicksville for its 90 minute service, which they do on weekdays.

The weekend skip-stop pattern is wrong. Westbury is a much busier station than Cold Spring Harbor. There have been complaints about that, but LIRR's arrogant service planners do not budge, saying additional Westbury service must wait for half hour service to Ronkonokma with double track, which turned out to be another lie of theirs.

I think weekday Huntington service is awful, and half the Port Jeff shuttles have to endure connections these local milk trains.

Penn Station slots are not an issue off-peak.

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 19 08:27:53 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Feb 18 15:49:59 2021.

Related topic:

https://www.thelirrtoday.com/2021/02/improving-station-access.html

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Feb 19 10:34:49 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 18 16:07:25 2021.

GIBSON HAS A PEDESTRION OVER PASS AT THE SOUTH END,HAS FOR YEARS.

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 19 10:40:52 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Feb 19 10:34:49 2021.

From the 1960 at least.

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Re: PHOTO Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Avid Reader on Fri Feb 19 12:06:57 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 18 19:19:34 2021.

Was there ever any two track ROW or intention to have a two track ROW on the LIRR West Hempstead Branch?




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Re: PHOTO Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 19 12:15:56 2021, in response to Re: PHOTO Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Feb 19 12:06:57 2021.

Just provisions for it, never a 2nd track, like concrete 3rd rail cable conduits.

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Re: PHOTO Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 19 12:16:54 2021, in response to Re: PHOTO Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Feb 19 12:06:57 2021.

Just provisions for it, never a 2nd track, like concrete 3rd rail cable conduits.

How did anyone take that picture before drones ?

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Re: PHOTO Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by VictorM on Fri Feb 19 15:09:08 2021, in response to Re: PHOTO Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 19 12:16:54 2021.


Probably from the Southern State Parkway overpass looking south, although the power poles now appear on the right side of the track:


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Re: PHOTO Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 19 15:21:00 2021, in response to Re: PHOTO Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by VictorM on Fri Feb 19 15:09:08 2021.

Dangerous walk

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Re: PHOTO Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 19 15:45:34 2021, in response to Re: PHOTO Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 19 15:21:00 2021.

Probably taken by someone who pulled a car onto the shoulder rather than someone who walked.

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Re: PHOTO Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Feb 19 18:01:10 2021, in response to Re: PHOTO Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 19 15:45:34 2021.

walking this section is easy.

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Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Feb 20 04:16:40 2021, in response to Re: Question About Pre-1950 Rockaway Beach/Far Rockaway LIRR Service, posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 19 06:49:40 2021.

Thank you. I do remember those Babylon super expresses that only stopped at Freeport, and often connected to diesel trains at Babylon. They carried decently in the summer with people transferring to the Jones Beach bus at Freeport, but were pretty empty otherwise.

So the LIRR’s vision for weekend Westbury service is to ultimately have one train an hour to Ronkonkoma and one train an hour to Huntington? Besides that, I never understood why that station only sees hourly service either. Westbury has long been one of the more transit and pedestrian-friendly communities in Long Island, and that station’s ridership certainly reflects it.

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