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Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by Express Rider on Wed Oct 14 09:22:35 2020 In photographs, the platform level for both terminals appears to be one level above the street. It's not clear from these photos, whether there is, or can be, room for an existing fare control area, with change booths and turnstyles (earlier years, ticket punchers), at an intermediate level, between the street and the platform. Does anyone have more information/photos etc. on the interior arrangements at these terminals for fare control areas etc? From early interior photos and black and white engraved drawings - for Park Row notably, from the Scientific American(?) - it looks like the fare control area at Park Row, was at the rear of the incoming platforms, (reached by stairs from Park Row at street level, adjacent to and immediately east of City Hall park). But then, IIRC, dont't photos of the Park Row platforms show stairways as well? Do these go to an intermediate level where fare control is? Or do they go to street level? Were Park Row fare controls at street level? The mid 1930s photos, for Sands St. showing beginning demolition - loop is gone, just a hole in the wall of the station structure. Doesn't look like there's an intermediate level just above the street for fare control facilities. Any more info is greatly welcomed. Thanks to anyone in advance!
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Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by SLRT* on Wed Oct 14 12:49:26 2020, in response to Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Express Rider on Wed Oct 14 09:22:35 2020.* Pictures I've seen of Park Row appear to indicate a mezzanine level, not direct to street stairways. As to fare controls, that might vary depending on the era we're talking about. In its glory years, Park Row had distinct entrance and exit platforms. The fare controls would have required a way to segregate incoming and outgoing traffic. In its last years, when the conduit tracks were removed, Park Row had only two active tracks, and an interlocking was created east of the station, it must have been much different. I'll see if I can find more.
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[PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Wed Oct 14 15:43:03 2020, in response to Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Express Rider on Wed Oct 14 09:22:35 2020.* This is all I have. Sands St lower level Park Row staircase
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by Elkeeper* on Wed Oct 14 17:13:29 2020, in response to [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Oct 14 15:43:03 2020.* Awesome photos! Were these taken right after Park Row, Sands St, and Adams St were closed on March 5th, 1944?
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by Joe V* on Wed Oct 14 17:37:54 2020, in response to [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Oct 14 15:43:03 2020.* And all of that today is basically reduced to a nondescript IND High Street station
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Thu Oct 15 06:42:38 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Elkeeper on Wed Oct 14 17:13:29 2020.* Were these taken right after Park Row, Sands St, and Adams St were closed on March 5th, 1944? There are no dates for the photos, but I believe it's before the closures. Bill Newkirk
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by 3-9* on Thu Oct 15 06:59:19 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 14 17:37:54 2020.* The IRT and BMT stations in the area took their share as well.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by Mitch45* on Thu Oct 15 07:05:08 2020, in response to [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Oct 14 15:43:03 2020.* Amazingly ornate! The Park Row staircase looks like a stairwell in a theater rather than a rapid transit statIon. People really cared about class and style back then.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by MainR3664* on Thu Oct 15 08:57:56 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Oct 15 06:42:38 2020.* I'd especially think the Park Row picture is before closure- the old "Edison" or classic light bulbs are in place. That pic might be from when the Park Row terminal was renovated in around 1896. I'm sure by the 1940s, they were using the gray-frosted "standard" light bulbs.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by Express Rider* on Thu Oct 15 09:04:05 2020, in response to [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Oct 14 15:43:03 2020.* Yes, awesome, excellent and historic views!! Thank you so much for posting these! :-)
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by MainR3664* on Thu Oct 15 09:16:03 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Oct 15 06:42:38 2020.* I'd especially think the Park Row picture is before closure- the old "Edison" or classic light bulbs are in place. That pic might be from when the Park Row terminal was renovated in around 1896. I'm sure by the 1940s, they were using the gray-frosted "standard" light bulbs.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by SUBWAYMAN* on Thu Oct 15 21:11:41 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by 3-9 on Thu Oct 15 06:59:19 2020.* Downtown Brooklyn is pretty over served when it comes to the subway. There are many stations in Downtown Brooklyn so I can see why Court Street station closed.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by Mitch45* on Thu Oct 15 21:35:37 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Thu Oct 15 21:11:41 2020.* I think Court Street was built in anticipation of being connected with either the IND Second System or the Second Avenue Subway, I forget which. As constructed, it was a useless stub end.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by Express Rider* on Thu Oct 15 23:53:53 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Oct 15 21:35:37 2020.* Correct. Wasn't it suppposed to be either the local station, for a branch that continued south & into Brooklyn from the Hudson Terminal station, or as you said connected to the second ave. subway? As a shuttle I wonder how much use it got during the rush hours - riders from the Court St. area using to connect to the A at Hoyt.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Fri Oct 16 00:14:28 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 15 23:53:53 2020.* It was supposed to be the local terminal for the Fulton Line. None of the IND outer borough 4 track locals were designed to go to the city.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by Express Rider* on Fri Oct 16 01:48:44 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 16 00:14:28 2020.* Plan being then that local Fulton passengers going to Manhattan would change at Hoyt?
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by randyo* on Fri Oct 16 01:54:59 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 16 00:14:28 2020.* Its status as a terminal for Bkln lcl service was only temporary. The original idea was to connect it via a new tunnel the the bellmouths S/O Whitehall on the Bway BMT. The BMT would then be connected up to the tracks at the Hudson Terminal (WTC) platform of the IND which almost directly line up with each other. At some point, a connection to the SAS was added.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Fri Oct 16 11:42:58 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by randyo on Fri Oct 16 01:54:59 2020.* I doubt that was the original idea. It might have come up on some plan, but making it the terminal is consistent with the other two locals that connect via Crosstown.
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Posted by Elkeeper* on Fri Oct 16 13:21:49 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by randyo on Fri Oct 16 01:54:59 2020.* I remember reading about this proposal. One of the reasons it was shelved was that all BMT Broadway tunnel service, south of City Hall, would be severed.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by Elkeeper* on Fri Oct 16 13:41:19 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 15 23:53:53 2020.* My thoughts are that the SAS could have turned west from Christie St to run above the BMT Bowery station. Past the Bowery connect it with the Centre-Nassau subway line via the two center tracks before the turn onto Centre St. If you are wondering why I said "above the Bowery", there was provision for the never-built Triboro Plan 3rd Ave subway to run above the existing Bowery stop. Sealed doorways for this 3rd Ave-Bowery transfer were built into the Bowery station and are shown in the station plans.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by New Flyer #857* on Fri Oct 16 13:45:01 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Thu Oct 15 21:11:41 2020.* Downtown Brooklyn is pretty over served when it comes to the subway. Do you (or anyone) think Downtown Brooklyn has passed its peak or that it has the potential to become like a mini-Midtown? It doesn't seem like many skyscrapers will go up south of Atlantic Ave (or even Schermerhorn St) so has it gone as far as it can go?
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by Elkeeper* on Fri Oct 16 13:50:56 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Oct 16 13:45:01 2020.* Have you checked out the "11 Hoyt" condo highrise recently?
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by Elkeeper* on Fri Oct 16 13:58:57 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Thu Oct 15 21:11:41 2020.* Court St might have survived, had a connection to the BMT Montague tunnel been built, via Clinton St.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by Elkeeper* on Fri Oct 16 14:08:14 2020, in response to [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Oct 14 15:43:03 2020.* I assume that the gated Park Row stairway led to the platform that was closed in 1935.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by Elkeeper* on Fri Oct 16 14:10:24 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by MainR3664 on Thu Oct 15 09:16:03 2020.* Probably the platform that was closed in August, 1935, when the rear extension was removed.
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman* on Fri Oct 16 14:44:02 2020, in response to [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Oct 14 15:43:03 2020.* Nice!
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Posted by randyo* on Fri Oct 16 17:49:15 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 16 11:42:58 2020.* At some point in the IND both first and second system, there would have had to be some local service between the boroughs as was the case with the Concourse. It may have worked out that way initially, but there would have been at least one local service between Bkln and Manhattan coming off the Utica/Stuyvesant subway since there was no provision for tuning back any local service from the Marine Pk area at S 4 St. A connection between Court St and The BMT at Whitehall St makes perfect sense and I have seen documentation to that effect somewhere.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by randyo* on Fri Oct 16 17:51:53 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Oct 16 13:21:49 2020.* Considering Mayor Hylan’s attitude towards the BMT, I doubt that was a consideration. Some parts of the IND were actually built to preclude any further expansion of the privates.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by randyo* on Fri Oct 16 17:58:10 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Oct 16 13:58:57 2020.* As I mentioned in another post, it was supposed to be connected to the BMT Bway Subway via a new tunnel at Whitehall St.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by Express Rider* on Fri Oct 16 19:53:52 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Oct 16 13:41:19 2020.* I thought I heard that there were one or more provisions, station shells maybe, built for a 3rd ave subway in Bowery or vicinity and they could be accessed behind locked doors.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by TUNNELRAT* on Fri Oct 16 21:54:02 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Express Rider on Fri Oct 16 19:53:52 2020.* no doors are there,been there several times and there is no way to get in.
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Posted by Dyre Dan* on Sat Oct 17 05:02:22 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by randyo on Fri Oct 16 01:54:59 2020.* That seems very doubtful. So Cortlandt Street station (now connected with the WTC stub-end via a transfer passageway) would have been abandoned? And BMT locals from the north would end at City Hall? The south end of the WTC stub-end station is just one flight down from the street. How would people even get to the island platform there if the tracks didn't end there? Or would that island platform be abandoned and Cortlandt Street station kept? It seems very unlikely that was the plan.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by Express Rider* on Sat Oct 17 06:10:33 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Oct 16 21:54:02 2020.* Thanks!
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by Express Rider* on Sat Oct 17 06:20:35 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by randyo on Fri Oct 16 17:58:10 2020.* So there were never plans to connect it to an IND route going geographically south from the Hudson Terminal platforms?
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Posted by VictorM* on Sat Oct 17 08:13:01 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Oct 17 05:02:22 2020.* The island platform is so close to Cortlandt St that the island platform would probably have been abandoned, with the stub end tracks extended along what's now the connecting pedestrian passageway to merge into the BMT tracks at the north end of Cortlandt St, via an at grade junction. Both BMT and IND trains would share the same track between Cortlandt and Whitehall. An interesting possibilty is that at the same time an IND train branched off towards Court St south of Whitehall, a BMT train from Broad St could merge into the slot vacated by the IND train and continue on to Montague St, along with BMT trains from Whitehall. Fantasy subway!
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by Chris R16/R2730* on Sat Oct 17 09:03:57 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by VictorM on Sat Oct 17 08:13:01 2020.* Sounds like a bad idea and a major choke point. The Worth St tunnel was a better idea.
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Posted by TUNNELRAT* on Sat Oct 17 09:16:41 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Express Rider on Sat Oct 17 06:20:35 2020.* afair,no.
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Posted by randyo* on Sat Oct 17 15:05:38 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Oct 17 09:03:57 2020.* Many of the lines people mention as alternatives, were actually meant to coexist with each other. Had the IND been connected to the BMT at Hudson Term, there were still other stairways to get off the IND platform and there is already a mezzanine for that station complex so there would have been no problem adding another stairway to the street. As for the lack of BMT Bway service to Montague, as I mentioned in my other post, with mayor Hylan's attitude towards the BMT cutting off part of the BMT to Montague was not even a consideration. Also at the time the Nassau St Line was under construction so all that would have happened would have been that tunnel passengers would end up going to Nassau St only a short distance from Bway anyhow. Tunnel passengers needing points farther up Bway could simply change at Canal St for trains coming off the bridge or lcls originating at City Hall.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by randyo* on Sat Oct 17 15:13:02 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Express Rider on Sat Oct 17 06:20:35 2020.* Yes there were. Read my posts carefully, There are bellmouths at the S/E of Whitehall St for connection to a new underwater tunnel. They were originally intended for a new subway in downtown Bkln as part of the Ashland Pl connection to a rebuilt Fulton St el. Since The IND Fulton St Line was a direct replacement for the Fulton St el, the bellmouths could be repurposed for a new tunnel connecting Whitehall with Court St. The BMT infrastructure form Cortlandt St south is under Church St in almost perfect alignment with the IND tracks at Hudson Terminal.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by TUNNELRAT* on Sat Oct 17 16:26:37 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by randyo on Sat Oct 17 15:13:02 2020.* randy,the whitehall st bellmouths were intended for a dekalb ave bypass either using the lirr`s abandonded atlantic ave tunnel[smart] or a different route[stooopid] I don`t recall any mention of a ashland pl.connection in any ERA bulleten.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by Elkeeper* on Sat Oct 17 19:30:54 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by TUNNELRAT on Sat Oct 17 16:26:37 2020.* The old unused LIRR tunnel is only 25 feet wide, I believe. Having two 10 foot wide trains passing each other there would be tighter than your Aunt Wanda's pantygirdle!
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by IRTRedbirdR33* on Sat Oct 17 21:09:22 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by TUNNELRAT on Sat Oct 17 16:26:37 2020.* I don`t recall any mention of a ashland pl.connection in any ERA bulleten. Steve: The Ashland Place Connection was covered in detail in the June 1969 issue of the Bulletin. Larry, RedbirdR33
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by Express Rider* on Sun Oct 18 00:55:00 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by randyo on Sat Oct 17 15:13:02 2020.* Thank you for this further detail. I will go back and re-read your eariler posts.
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Posted by 3-9* on Sun Oct 18 07:00:22 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Express Rider on Fri Oct 16 19:53:52 2020.* I thought the provision was the huge space above the tracks. I do remember seeing a door above the tracks with no way of getting to it! On a related note, the space for one of the closed off entrances was taken over by a dumpling place (probably closed for good now because of the pandemic). What was interesting is that, apparently, the old BMT tile work was never removed by the previous tenants. The dumpling place uncovered/restored the tile work and set up a seating area in the former exit, so you could eat surrounded by BMT tiles!
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Sun Oct 18 08:11:21 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by 3-9 on Sun Oct 18 07:00:22 2020.* The dumpling place uncovered/restored the tile work and set up a seating area in the former exit, so you could eat surrounded by BMT tiles! Dumpling place ? Bill Newkirk
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP* on Sun Oct 18 08:52:39 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Oct 17 19:30:54 2020.* Everyone take a deep breath!
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Posted by TUNNELRAT* on Sun Oct 18 08:55:59 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Oct 17 19:30:54 2020.* do think that they might have WIDENED IT,YOU OLD GOAT!
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by TUNNELRAT* on Sun Oct 18 08:59:00 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 18 08:11:21 2020.* THE DIM SUM TILE WORK.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by IRTRedbirdR33* on Sun Oct 18 08:59:42 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Oct 18 08:55:59 2020.* do think that they might have WIDENED IT,YOU OLD GOAT! Steve: Isn't that old tunnel under Atlantic Avenue the place where you used to store your supply of Kielbasa. This was before you moved it to 76th Street. Larry, RedbirdR33
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas
Posted by TUNNELRAT* on Sun Oct 18 09:02:11 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Park Row & Sands St. - Fare Control Areas, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sun Oct 18 08:59:42 2020.* CAN`T SAY,SWORN TO SECRECY!
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