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Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Aug 25 00:25:17 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by Joe V on Sat Aug 23 16:12:39 2014. 5 car sets won't work on the M since Metro Av is one of the only if not the only Eastern Div station that can only hold 8 X 60.footers. Even back before rebuilding, Met could not hold a full 8 car train of steels, only 7. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Aug 25 00:28:41 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by Neil Feldman on Sun Aug 24 19:22:25 2014. Why??? |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Aug 25 00:31:48 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by Neil Feldman on Sun Aug 24 19:22:25 2014. Why??? |
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Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 25 07:29:21 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by randyo on Mon Aug 25 00:28:41 2014. :) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 25 07:29:35 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by randyo on Mon Aug 25 00:31:48 2014. :):) |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Mon Aug 25 09:02:50 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 24 06:54:08 2014. Not to mention the people who spread their legs way out on the benches and take up two or even three seats. |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Mon Aug 25 09:08:54 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Aug 24 06:43:29 2014. Some stations like Metropolitan Ave on the M line would have to be lengthened significantly to hold ten 67-foot cars. Metro can currently platform only eight 60-foot cars. And of course, there would be union issues with running trains longer than 600 feet anyway. So don't count on 10-car trains of 67-footers. That's a non-starter. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Aug 25 15:22:16 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by Gold_12th on Sat Aug 23 12:04:08 2014. sounds about right..the 75ft new cars would basically run out of Jamaica for the E/F..Pitkin for the A..due to the new CBTC signaling coming to IND mainline routes. |
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Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Aug 25 18:42:42 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Mon Aug 25 09:08:54 2014. I think he wants 9 car 67 footers. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Aug 25 18:50:52 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by randyo on Mon Aug 25 00:25:17 2014. How long are the Broad Street lay up tracks ? |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Aug 25 19:39:24 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by Edwards! on Mon Aug 25 15:22:16 2014. I don't think they want 75' cars back on the Queens Blvd lines because R46's slowed it down too much, which is why R32's held down the E train since 1988, while R46's were put on the R. You'll see the R160's and R46's swapped back where they were between the F and the R when Montague is done. |
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Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Aug 25 20:08:35 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by Joe V on Mon Aug 25 18:50:52 2014. Probably long enough to hold 9 X 60 footers since a 9 car train of 60 footers is approximately the same length as the 8 steels that used to run there. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Aug 25 20:18:22 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by Andy on Sat Aug 23 08:14:42 2014. Plus,60 footers can run anywhere on the IND and BMT. 75 footers cannot operate on the J/Z, M, or L lines so equipment flexibility is not 100% as would be the case with 60 footers.Ah, another person with the irrational thought that each and every car in the system must be run through the eastern division. Station dwells are increased because a full length train of 75 foot cars has 32 doors per side versus 40 on a 60 foot car. Says who? They can have 5 doors, or they can have 3 doors like WMATA or even 2 like BART. |
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Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Aug 25 21:06:22 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Aug 25 20:18:22 2014. in the past..cars needed to be interchangeable..to be able to operate on ALL lines.the EAST was planned to be rebuilt so the 75ft cars could operate there without restrictions.That didn't pan out,and there are no plans to revive it. Today,that is not entirely the case..since the east is almost entirely equipped with new rolling stock. so..for the foreseeable future..the R143/160A/179 rail cars are it,ALL 60FT..with no one complaining. |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Aug 25 21:30:36 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by Joe V on Mon Aug 25 18:50:52 2014. 575 feet |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Aug 26 07:19:00 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by Edwards! on Mon Aug 25 21:06:22 2014. Why would there be no complaining? |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Aug 26 16:32:08 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is suppsoed to be a 75 foot car order, posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 24 19:43:14 2014. That's why I said SUPER long-term.Those will take time to do. Metropolitan Avenue for example might have to be re-done as a through station (perhaps as part of a super-long term idea of mine to extend it north to joining the QB line). |
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Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Aug 26 16:34:29 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by Joe V on Mon Aug 25 18:42:42 2014. Exactly!!That would be for now. It would take lengthening every station in the system (B Division) to 670' before we can think of 10-such cars. That would mean both five and four-car sets (as is done now with 60' cars) that would allow for in this case much greater flexibility as needed. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Aug 26 18:27:33 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by Gold_12th on Mon Aug 25 21:30:36 2014. Not quite a 600's long train, which some want the Eastern Division retrofitted too. That and Chambers St are the showstoppers. |
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Posted by The silence on Tue Aug 26 18:59:30 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is suppsoed to be a 75 foot car order, posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Aug 24 06:52:05 2014. You do not need uniform stations and uniform trains, but the technology to install wuch a system in the subway right now would be highly expensive.And as I explained before, 600 feet is the rough limit. It's in the contract with the TWU, one person per 300 feet of train. That 70 feet you want to add would involve a third crew member on every train. |
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Posted by The Silence on Tue Aug 26 19:21:56 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by Joe V on Sat Aug 23 16:12:39 2014. SMH... It only doesn't make sense because you're not thinking it through.What is the M going to do with a 5 car train during rush hours Park them in Fresh Pond Yard. They would only be used on the weekend Metro to Essex short turn (A 12 stop line is not a shuttle)and the Metro-Myrtle shuttle weekend nights. When the M was still using R42s, they would keep a small fleet of R143 borrowed from the L stored in Fresh Pond for weekend OPTO service. This will save them from having to cut the 8 car trains into their component sets. You just park the 8 car train and bring out the 5 car one. and make short turns where?  We don't need to send any more trains to Chambers Street. who said anything about Chambers... |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Aug 26 19:22:13 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is suppsoed to be a 75 foot car order, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Aug 26 16:32:08 2014. Doubtful about extending Myrtle past Met since it runs right into a portion of Lutheran Cemetery. |
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Posted by The Silence on Tue Aug 26 19:32:55 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by randyo on Mon Aug 25 00:25:17 2014. 5 car sets won't work on the M...Oh yes they will...   One train of 5 60' cars already did this for an entire day without a problem. Why not continue that? Provide Ridgewood, Bushwick, Bed Sty and Williamsburg with a little more service capacity, at the only cost of having to dead head the units once a months to Jamaica for swap out. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 27 07:38:49 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Aug 26 07:19:00 2014. Bump |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Aug 27 09:51:30 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 27 07:38:49 2014. More proff that proves nobody likes you!!!!!!! |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Aug 27 14:48:06 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by The Silence on Tue Aug 26 19:32:55 2014. Trains of individual single cars will work in various consists up to 8 X 60 footers, but unless a small dedicated fleet of 5 car NTT units is assigned to the line for weekend service, they won't work since a 5 and a 4 car unit coupled together won't fit at Metro. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 27 16:49:35 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Aug 27 09:51:30 2014.  |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Aug 27 18:26:04 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by The Silence on Tue Aug 26 19:21:56 2014. Makes no sense.They sent R143's there from Canarsie to SAVE money over the weekend or at night to save having to run an R42 with a 2 man crew. That was also for all of 16 cars. You proposal saves no money and serves no purpose. They are not going to keep equipment at Fresh Pond only for use on weekends, or deadheading them there and back from and to Jamaica or CIY every Friday and Sunday night is expensive. It would require 8 trainsets, so 40 cars. The only benefit would be the train is 5 cars rather than 4. |
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Posted by The Silence on Wed Aug 27 20:16:29 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by Joe V on Wed Aug 27 18:26:04 2014. They are not going to keep equipment at Fresh Pond only for use on weekendsWhat do you think those 143s were doing Monday to Friday? Because they were not sent back at the end of their shifts. You proposal saves no money Where in any of this did I mention saving money? Actually, what it will save is some level of time and effort. Since train crews can no longer cut in the station, they now have to bring the train into the yard, cut it there and then return the halves to service. My suggestion is to simply park it and run the 5 car sets. and serves no purpose. Purpose is to provide more transportation capacity in a rapidly growing section of the city that needs it. Bushwick and Ridgewood have been growing like crazy in the last ten years, but we still must rely on the Three Stooges division for our transportation needs. The MTA has already said that the J will be running to Broad Street all hours starting next year, to provide 14,000 people with the transfer options at Fulton Street. This area is becoming popular and populated. There are no less than 5 luxury apartment developments in various stages of completion within about 5 blocks of my house alone. The only benefit would be the train is 5 cars rather than 4. Yes, which would provide that capacity increase I was discussing. |
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Posted by The Silence on Wed Aug 27 20:17:20 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by randyo on Wed Aug 27 14:48:06 2014. Like I said, a small dedicated Weekend fleet is not new territory for the M. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Aug 27 20:31:14 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by The Silence on Wed Aug 27 20:16:29 2014. Wrong.Before the R160's were born, every Friday night 3-8 car trains of R143's at lay up time were transfered to Met for weekend OPTO service from Canarsie. 16 cars for service, 8 spares in case of a b/o train. They did not sit at FPYD all week doing nothing. Then after 2 AM Monday morning they were returned. They needed extra t/o's for the cuts/adds and transfers. And for a midweek holiday this had to be done all over again for 24 hours. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Aug 27 20:37:14 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by The Silence on Wed Aug 27 20:17:20 2014. You are not maximizing your equipment when you use them 2 days per week, even if it's around the clock from 2:04 AM Saturday (first OPTO trip) till 0154 AM Monday (last Sunday PM trip). |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Aug 27 20:38:06 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Aug 27 20:37:14 2014. 0144AM rather. |
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Posted by The Silence on Wed Aug 27 20:57:36 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Aug 27 20:31:14 2014. I kept seeing them sitting there parked. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Wed Aug 27 21:21:52 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by The Silence on Wed Aug 27 20:57:36 2014. They would have been ENYD overflow of cars waiting for barn space.During that time I was working PM's on the J so I regularly saw the movements on Friday nights and nights before holidays. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Aug 28 15:14:08 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by The Silence on Wed Aug 27 20:16:29 2014. When were train crews prohibited from cutting in the station and why? |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Aug 28 19:08:41 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by The Silence on Wed Aug 27 20:16:29 2014. As I said, the TA will not leave 40 cars in Fresh Pond yard for use on weekends. For one thing, there is no room. It would also be a scandalous waste of equipment.The J train is sparsely patronized south of Essex on weekends. Broad Street extension is political SOP to justify spending $4B on the Fulton Transfer Boondoggle. For whatever who want to go to Wall Street, they can transfer at Canal or Chambers. Myrtle Avenue communities want to go to Midtown, not Wall Street, as the ORANGE M train popularity has proven. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Aug 28 19:10:04 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by The Silence on Wed Aug 27 20:17:20 2014. Small did you say ? You want 32 cars, without spares, so really 36 or 40. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Aug 29 07:31:13 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by Joe V on Thu Aug 28 19:08:41 2014. The J train is sparsely patronized south of Essex on weekends.A few months ago I traveled from DeKalb to Delancey/Essex on a weekend. Yes, I got a seat on the J at Canal, but it was reasonably full for a train at its second stop. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Aug 29 08:18:41 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is suppsoed to be a 75 foot car order, posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Aug 24 06:48:58 2014. That's true. You talked about if for years, and it came true. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Aug 29 08:23:47 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by Joe V on Sat Aug 23 14:06:10 2014. It seems to me that for maximum flexibility, all B Division cars should be 60 feet long. But I realize that requires the purchase of more cars, so I can see the motivation to get some 75-footers.But I still think they should just buy 60-footers... |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Aug 29 08:24:17 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by Andy on Sat Aug 23 08:14:42 2014. +1 |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Aug 29 10:38:34 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 27 16:49:35 2014. STOP WITH THE "MISTER WADL CRAP 2015!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Fri Aug 29 11:49:25 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by Andy on Sat Aug 23 08:14:42 2014. That would not be true if the 75-footers had five doors per side instead of just four, like the R44s, 46s and 68s do. A train of eight 75-foot R211s with five doors would have the same number of side doors as a train of ten 60-footers - 40.Also, not all R160s can be used on the Eastern Division. The 5-car sets are restricted from the East because you can't run 10-car trains there. So unless you want to run trains of only five cars on the J, L and M lines (and why would you?), the R160s in 5-car sets cannot be used on the J, L or M lines any more than 75-foot cars can. If the R143s, R160s, and upcoming R179s and R211s were all 60-foot cars configured in pairs, then they could run anywhere. But the 143s and 160s aren't and the 179s won't be. |
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Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now. |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Fri Aug 29 11:52:24 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by Joe V on Mon Aug 25 18:42:42 2014. But that, too, would require lengthening Eastern Division station platforms. And significantly in the case of Metropolitan Ave on the M. |
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Posted by Gamera on Fri Aug 29 11:54:28 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Aug 29 10:38:34 2014. Why don't you stop attacking people for no reason. Then maybe you will earn some respect around here. |
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Posted by R211 on Fri Aug 29 13:18:53 2014, in response to FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by Gold_12th on Sat Aug 23 00:04:41 2014. My size will amaze and delight you. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Fri Aug 29 13:36:30 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by R211 on Fri Aug 29 13:18:53 2014. I hope the R-211's have seats configured like the R-46 & r-68 |
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Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now. |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Fri Aug 29 13:58:17 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by rbseabeach on Fri Aug 29 13:36:30 2014. Same here. |
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Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Aug 29 15:17:04 2014, in response to Re: FYI, R-211 order... it is a 75 foot car order. No more 60 foot car orders, for now., posted by MainR3664 on Fri Aug 29 08:23:47 2014. Sometime in the early 1950s, the ERA "Headlights" had an article containing comments by then NYCTA Chairman Sydney Bingham in which he stated that the ideal size for a rapid transit car on the NYCTS was 60 ft long X 10 ft wide where such a sized car can be accommodated. Of course it wouldn't work on the IRT but he felt that on BMT and IND lines that was the ideal sized car to be operated. The fact that many locations on the IND and BMT had to be modified to allow for the operation of 75 ft cars seems to lend support to his position. |
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