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Posted by jimmymc25 on Tue Jun 6 23:34:08 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Jun 6 18:11:40 2017. Yup....Donnie boy's doing his best to fuck this country. The scumbag is an America Hater.Jimmymc25 |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Jun 6 23:34:29 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet? Edited stat, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 5 13:08:09 2017. As for not having fear of the USSR, why was nobody traveling eastward across the Iron Curtain, while so many were trying to travel westward??Because......EUEUEUEUEUEUEUEUEU!!!!! |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Tue Jun 6 23:40:00 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by SLRT on Tue Jun 6 14:37:43 2017. Cute but true.The Asshole in chief deserves all the ridicule he gets and then some. Donnie's an embarrassment the likes of which this country 's never seen before. Jimmymc25 |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Jun 6 23:54:03 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet? Edited stat, posted by SLRT on Mon Jun 5 13:33:13 2017. Did she ride the U-Bahn? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Jun 6 23:57:52 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet? Edited stat, posted by SLRT on Mon Jun 5 15:22:14 2017. Yeah the Germans are gonna throw away their national pension system, health care, education and everything else so that together with the French, Italians, Portuguese and Slovenians they can finally reclaim Pomerania. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jun 7 00:09:52 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by Mtk52983 on Mon Jun 5 19:28:48 2017. If alternative energy is the wave of the future, why does China and India not have to reduce their pollution, but the United States does?LOL!! You're stuck on talking points from 1998. You haven't read the Paris Accord or have any knowledge of what China has been doing to reduce its pollution? Do you? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 7 00:15:47 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by jimmymc25 on Tue Jun 6 23:34:08 2017. Donald Trump does not love America. He is a narcissist; he is incapable of loving anything but himself. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 7 00:18:19 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet? Edited stat, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 5 13:08:09 2017. As for not having fear of the USSR, why was nobody traveling eastward across the Iron Curtain, while so many were trying to travel westward?? Anyway, where is he when we need him? |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Jun 7 00:20:49 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet? Edited stat, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 7 00:18:19 2017. That is excessive. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jun 7 00:22:07 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 6 17:37:19 2017. I'm fine with constitutional amendment by popular initiative as long as it:1. Is one single issue per question 2. Obtains a required supermajority (say 60%) 3. along with a minimum quorum of voters (say 35%) 3. Is placed on the ballot on dates that are different from those of the general election. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 7 00:23:50 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet? Edited stat, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Jun 7 00:20:49 2017. No, it's not. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 7 00:26:49 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by SMAZ on Wed Jun 7 00:22:07 2017. I agree with those.Speaking of single issues, I believe that all bills should pertain to a single subject/issue, which is stated succinctly in the title. That is actually a provision from the Confederate Constitution. So the South didn't secede over slavery, they seceded over preventing Congress from enacting omnibus bills! #southernrevisionism |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jun 7 00:30:14 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 5 10:22:37 2017. It strongly implies (and is generally meant to imply) disloyalty to the United States, not just disloyalty to Donald J. Trump.I guess the White Rose must have been disloyal to Germany and not just to Adolf Hitler. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jun 7 00:42:10 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 5 09:23:38 2017. A yellow-bellied term for these times."Loyal opposition" is a fine term for those who disagreed with the policies of patriots such as President Eisenhower or President Ford. It's the ULTIMATE disloyalty to the United States when using such a pansy term when referring to opposition to a Manchurian Occupant of the White House who is committing High Treason. It is the duty of every Real American to not only oppose the policies of this treasonous Administration but to plot and participate in its total destruction. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Jun 7 01:06:36 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet? Edited stat, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 7 00:23:50 2017. To murder the President of the United States? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jun 7 01:52:02 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 7 00:26:49 2017. The Lost Cause of the Single Issue Provision Shall Be Redeemed! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 7 08:42:52 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet? Edited stat, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Jun 7 01:06:36 2017. No, it's not extreme to wish that this president were dead. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Jun 7 09:18:57 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet? Edited stat, posted by SLRT on Mon Jun 5 13:15:29 2017. My family and I visited East Germany in summer 1968. Yes it was a poorer brother of West Germany and things were tense as we got there after the Prague Spring, but it wasn't scary. I saw soldiers with machine guns about as often as I do nowadays at Grand Central. When we crossed the border near Fulda to leave, they ordered us out of the car and took the seats out to make sure we weren't smuggling anyone out (they were touchy about that). My dad or uncle bought me a train model of East German multilevel coaches like this: At the border one of the guards questioned why we had this model and I thought he was going to keep it but we ended up putting our car back together and crossing the border. I returned twice since then and found it increasingly friendly, especially if I brought Led Zeppelin records 😀 At any rate, I never felt nor found it scary. Just a bit tense sometimes. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jun 7 09:37:58 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet? Edited stat, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 7 08:42:52 2017. If Trump were killed it would be worse for this country than having him remain president.It's OK to wish for a small stroke that makes him decide he would best resign, however. |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 7 10:14:59 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by SMAZ on Tue Jun 6 23:32:03 2017. True, Karl pre-dated the Marx Brothers by half a century. |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 7 10:35:19 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet? Edited stat, posted by SMAZ on Tue Jun 6 23:54:03 2017. I don't know. If I had been there back then I would have wanted to look out the RFW of the line that went past shuttered East Berlin stations. |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 7 10:37:02 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet? Edited stat, posted by SMAZ on Tue Jun 6 23:54:03 2017. Do you mean between East and West Berlin? Couldn't. Had to walk. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 7 11:02:21 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by SMAZ on Tue Jun 6 23:32:03 2017. Out of context quote. Marx said that if the politics of Jules Guesde and Paul Lafargue (of the French Workers' Party) represented Marxism, then it was certain that he himself was no Marxist. Otherwise, Marx was as Marxist as ever. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Jun 7 11:03:39 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet? Edited stat, posted by AlM on Wed Jun 7 09:37:58 2017. Agreed. If he was killed, some would see him as a martyr. We really really don't want that. They'r e a noisy enough hateful minority as it is, being willing to enable the deaths of millions through denied healthcare for one. |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 7 12:34:36 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 7 11:02:21 2017. Good research. Thank you. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Jun 7 13:19:38 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet? Yep, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jun 6 19:55:29 2017. Get rid of Rhode Island then yourself. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Jun 7 13:19:59 2017, in response to Are we winning yet? Yep, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 6 19:52:12 2017. So legal citizens have to jump through hoops and give up, but non-citizens get the freebies. nice. |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 7 15:17:07 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet? Edited stat, posted by Fred G on Wed Jun 7 09:18:57 2017. Heh. German student friends were always asking her to translate lyrics into German. The example I remember was that they especially asked her to translate "Whiter Shade of Pale." She tried to tell them the song was Scheiße Worte, mostly meaningless lyrics* but they wanted to know anyway.*Although like Ravi Shankar's music they probably began to seem profound given enough of the popular recreational drugs of the day. |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 7 15:20:19 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet? Edited stat, posted by SMAZ on Tue Jun 6 23:57:52 2017. Of course they don't want to do any of that. They've found the joy of economically dominating their neighbors under American military protection.So Merkel's suggestion [threat?] of Europe "going it alone" is probably meant to impress the electorate for the upcoming elections. |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 7 15:23:01 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet? Edited stat, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 7 00:18:19 2017. I hope you're enjoying your 15 minutes of casually dangerous rhetoric. It's vile.And I suppose you're going to say: "Not as vile as..." |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 7 15:28:31 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 6 16:37:56 2017. doesn't have the advantage of being the other nations' parent - it's closer to the other way aroundAre you European? That's an attitude I've long heard from Europeans and their admirers, that the U.S. are upstart children rather than the knowledgeable cultured "Old Country." Well I have news for you. The U.S. is no one's bastard child. It is the anti-Europe that broke from Europe's rotten monarchies. |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 7 15:29:07 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 7 00:15:47 2017. Sounds like Obama. Maybe they're related. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 7 16:11:10 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 7 15:29:07 2017. Seriously? You would compare Trump's narcissism to that of anyone else? |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 7 16:17:29 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 7 16:11:10 2017. Yes. Obama thought he was President of the World and that he could make things so by making speeches. |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 7 16:19:11 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by SMAZ on Wed Jun 7 00:42:10 2017. You people are crazy, you know that? |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jun 7 16:20:18 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by SMAZ on Wed Jun 7 00:42:10 2017. It's the ULTIMATE disloyalty to the United States when using such a pansy term when referring to opposition to a Manchurian Occupant of the White House who is committing High Treason.??? Why is it a pansy term? It is loyal to the United States to oppose Trump by all legal means when he is doing something that is bad for the United States and not oppose him when he isn't. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jun 7 16:23:30 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 7 16:19:11 2017. You're not very sane for calling people disloyal for doing things like using every legal means at their disposal to keep AHCA from becoming law. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 7 16:24:03 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 7 16:17:29 2017. LOL! |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 7 16:28:05 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by AlM on Wed Jun 7 16:23:30 2017. Where did I say people were disloyal for opposing AHCA? |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 7 16:29:37 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by AlM on Wed Jun 7 16:20:18 2017. Revolutionaries and fellow travelers (and religious zealots) always think they are loyal to "a higher power." |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 7 16:30:45 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by SMAZ on Wed Jun 7 00:30:14 2017. The Resistance has such fantasies of historical precedent. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jun 7 16:32:46 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 7 16:11:10 2017. I've known narcissists I would compare to Trump. But none of them were President of the United States. :) |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jun 7 16:35:07 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 7 16:28:05 2017. Here.AHCA is the only Trump initiative the "disloyal opposition" has managed to block, so you can't have been referring to anything else. It's not as though Jeff Sessions isn't Attorney General or Neil Gorsuch isn't a Supreme Court Justice, after all. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Jun 7 17:20:43 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 7 15:28:31 2017. Who mentioned bastard child? Stop reading way more into my comment than was actually there. That being said, our govt., Constitution, laws, and even our religion and language are all based on things that were developed in Europe and beyond over hundreds of years. We're old enough to have our own "culture" now, but there are reasons why we hold special admiration for Europe's landmarks, art, etc. And to top it off, a lot of us still go "squee" over monarchies, esp. England's. |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 7 18:49:58 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by 3-9 on Wed Jun 7 17:20:43 2017. Going squee over Monarchs is decidedly un-American and an embarrassment in a country whose Constitution specifies that we grant "no title of nobility." |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jun 7 19:15:33 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 7 16:29:37 2017. Huh? That might be true but what does it have to do with the last few posts? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 7 19:24:27 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by 3-9 on Wed Jun 7 17:20:43 2017. a lot of us still go "squee" over monarchiesOne of the central themes of Christianity is a divine monarchy, that of Jesus. The left has been trying to erase the phrase "No king but Jesus" from US history. And some traditions hold that the stone that's placed under the British coronation chair is actually the throne of King David of Israel, originally the pillar stone of the patriarch Jacob (renamed Israel) and brought to Ireland by the prophet Jeremiah after the Babylonians invaded Jerusalem and took the Jews captive to Babylon. Luke 1:32 says that Jesus will receive "the throne of his father David".  |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jun 7 19:25:46 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by AlM on Wed Jun 7 16:20:18 2017. While legal means are preferred, the peril to the Nation is such that extra-constitutional means would be acceptable if that's what it takes to bring down the crowd currently running the Executive Branch. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jun 7 20:21:31 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by SMAZ on Wed Jun 7 19:25:46 2017. I totally disagree at the present moment. The chances of extra-constitutional means turning out well are very low. And Trump is not evading the rule of law, so he must be fought within the law. It would be different if he were defying the Supreme Court. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jun 7 21:06:04 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by AlM on Wed Jun 7 20:21:31 2017. And Trump is not evading the rule of law,Giving out state secrets to Russia because of Kompromat is not evading the rule of law? If the GOP Congress continues to forfeit its constitutional responsibilities to deal with the Treason, Bribery and High Crimes of this Administration through the impeachment process, extra-constitutional means are all that is left in order to save the Republic. |
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