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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 7 21:36:09 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by SMAZ on Wed Jun 7 21:06:04 2017. It may be time to refresh the tree of liberty. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Jun 7 22:56:46 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 7 21:36:09 2017. +1787 |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Thu Jun 8 00:11:17 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 7 16:19:11 2017. No....people who love America and know idiot Donnie needs to be stopped from destroying what made this country great.Jimmymc25 |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Thu Jun 8 00:14:56 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 7 16:29:37 2017. I'm loyal to a Higher Power but it's got nothing to do with getting rid of your boy Donnie.Jimmymc25 |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 8 00:19:41 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by jimmymc25 on Thu Jun 8 00:14:56 2017. it's not about donnie boy.It's about thread winning. Each side wants to win. Had any other Republican run he would have lost. |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Thu Jun 8 00:24:02 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 7 21:36:09 2017. I never thought I could dislike a president as much as I dislike this asshole in chief.....and it keeps growing everyday cos everyday he does/says something stupid & disgusting to disgrace the office of the president even more.REFRESH THAT TREE!!! Jimmymc25 |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Thu Jun 8 00:28:37 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 8 00:19:41 2017. I'm not here to win threads though.Jimmymc25 |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jun 8 02:51:37 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by SMAZ on Wed Jun 7 21:06:04 2017. Giving out state secrets to Russia because of Kompromat is not evading the rule of law? Probably not. There is no evidence that Trump compromised Israeli intelligence because he is being blackmailed rather than because he's a stupid moron. And if it were, impeachment and conviction would be the cure. I don't think Ryan's and McConnell's support of Trump would hold if there were proof of blackmail. What would be evading rule of law would be flouting an order of the Supreme Court and getting away with it. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 8 03:36:31 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by AlM on Thu Jun 8 02:51:37 2017. LOAlM!!!!! |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jun 8 10:07:19 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by jimmymc25 on Thu Jun 8 00:24:02 2017. It's not about liking or disliking. It's not even about policy. That's what elections are for.It's about giving up the sovereignty and Independence that We The People of these United States of America have spent over 200 years earning, expanding, consolidating and taking for granted. The moment our secrets and policies are subject to the whims of a major foreign adversary are independence is gone. We become a mere puppet state. The moment our allies stop passing us terrorism-related intelligence because traitors in the White House pass it on to common adversaries and put the lives of their own sources at risk, our very safety is in peril. Our Founders had foreseen this possibility and had thus carefully crafted a set of checks and balances to correct such a dire situation through the impeachment process. What they did not foresee is a Congress that not only is not composed of Patriots such as themselves but one that puts Party over Country. If Congress doesn't do it there is this: He could have wrote this today: the people can not be all, & always, well informed. the part which is wrong [. . .] will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. if they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. we have had 13. states independant 11. years. there has been one rebellion. that comes to one rebellion in a century & a half for each state. what country before ever existed a century & half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? let them take arms. the remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. what signify a few lives lost in a century or two? the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it’s natural manure. Thomas Jefferson November 13 1787 |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jun 8 10:10:00 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by AlM on Thu Jun 8 02:51:37 2017. And if it were, impeachment and conviction would be the cure.Impeached by whom? I don't think Ryan's and McConnell's support of Trump would hold if there were proof of blackmail. They would defend him and carry his water just like they are doing now. Party over Country. I pray for a coup d'etat. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jun 8 10:13:15 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jun 8 10:07:19 2017. What they did not foresee is a Congress that not only is not composed of Patriots such as themselves but one that puts Party over Country.At the moment Congress can rightly point out that the evidence is missing that any malfeasance by the President is deliberate and not the result of unintentional error. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jun 8 10:16:21 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jun 8 10:10:00 2017. I pray for a coup d'etat.By whom, Mattis and Tillerson? In the absence of evidence that Trump is deliberately sabotaging the country, I prefer an elected and moronic Trump to an unelected Mattis. Remember that when Assad came to power there was such relief because he was so much more reasonable than his father. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 8 10:18:20 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by AlM on Thu Jun 8 10:13:15 2017. Unintentional error is bad enough. This should be a case of strict liability. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jun 8 10:20:50 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 8 10:18:20 2017. Every president has made occasional unintentional errors that have been quite detrimental to our country. Trump is obviously going at it at a much higher rate, but you have to make an allowance for unintentional error. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 8 10:21:47 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by AlM on Thu Jun 8 10:16:21 2017. Trump is "unelected." He was chosen by a governmental body pursuant to established procedures just as Secretary Mattis was so chosen. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jun 8 10:40:14 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 8 10:21:47 2017. Meh. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jun 8 10:41:44 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by AlM on Thu Jun 8 10:16:21 2017. By whom, Mattis and Tillerson?By high-ranking military officers of the same mindset as former Senior Airman Reality Leigh Winner. Mattis can go along or get out of the way. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jun 8 11:04:31 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jun 8 10:41:44 2017. General al-Sisi was viewed as an excellent choice to clean up the incompetence and malfeasance in Egypt.Yes, sometimes democracies kill themselves off, the best example being Germany in 1933. But military coups have an even worse record of success than the bumbling of democracies. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 8 11:18:18 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by AlM on Thu Jun 8 11:04:31 2017. Al-Sisi was a good alternative to Morsi. Egypt turned out ahead.Egypt hasn't had a legacy of hundreds of years of democracy. Germany had more of it, but still not as much. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jun 8 11:23:01 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 8 11:18:18 2017. Egypt hasn't had a legacy of hundreds of years of democracy. Germany had more of it, but still not as much.All the more reason to think that the democratic process in the United States can survive Trump, and that a coup would be much more dangerous for the future of American democracy than Trump is. Right now you have the recently fired director of the FBI calling the president a liar and a defamer. That's not a sign that Trump is doing well even if his intentions are to undermine democracy. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 9 09:36:22 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by AlM on Thu Jun 8 11:04:31 2017. But military coups have an even worse record of success than the bumbling of democracies.It's not just our democracy that is imperiled. It's our very independence and national sovereignty that is in danger. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jun 9 09:39:06 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 9 09:36:22 2017. I think you overstate greatly. By the time Mueller is done every single Russian activity, and its precise connection to Trump people, where applicable, will be thoroughly documented. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jun 9 10:10:47 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by AlM on Fri Jun 9 09:39:06 2017. SMAZ isn't overstating the case. If anything, he's actually understating the issue. Think about it: a known adversary conducted a deliberate "active measures" espionage campaign against our election process, with the specific goal of undermining one Presidential candidate for the benefit of the other. That is a direct threat to the continued existence of the United States as a functional democracy. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jun 9 10:18:02 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jun 9 10:10:47 2017. SMAZ is suggesting that it will be successful in an ongoing manner. |
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Posted by SLRT on Fri Jun 9 10:22:46 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by AlM on Wed Jun 7 16:35:07 2017. I said no such thing*, except in your fevered imagination.*Since everything needs to be explicit with you, I don't attach loyalty to opposing or supporting legislation. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jun 9 10:36:12 2017, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by SLRT on Fri Jun 9 10:22:46 2017. Sigh. So if some people mouth off to no actual practical effect that bothers you. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Nov 18 15:11:18 2025, in response to Re: Are we winning yet?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 5 11:46:27 2017. Wonder what his thoughts were on swiftly getting Kash Patel into the top FBI slot back in February. |
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Re: Are we winning yet? Yep |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 31 07:24:42 2026, in response to Are we winning yet? Yep, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 6 19:52:12 2017. This looks familiar. |
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