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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by randyo on Thu Jun 14 18:32:39 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by Jsun21 on Thu Jun 14 15:35:34 2018.

There aren’t enough board crews to fill in for all contingencies. If a board crew is used to cover a run due to a last minute absence, then that crew becomes unavailable for anything else. One day I was assigned the 500AM board job at Bed Pk and as soon as I signed in, the T/D told me that the train on the stand was mine to go. Once I was assigned to that run, it became my day’s work and removed me from being able to cover any other runs or trips for the rest of the day.

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by Express Rider on Thu Jun 14 20:27:21 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by Express Rider on Wed Jun 13 18:27:05 2018.

Thanks Railman & Edwards.

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by Jsun21 on Thu Jun 14 20:38:20 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by randyo on Thu Jun 14 18:32:39 2018.

Exactly, which is a much better use of crew time than patching a 10 minute gap (assuming the needed equipment isn't trapped by the issue causing the delay).

And then of course when a major issue arises you don't have any cards left to play.

If you do find a gap train (laugh along with me) and a board crew, there's still the matter of what to do with the extra crew and trainset. Do you sideline a regular road crew and train whose interval was stolen, do you run them extra despite delays and congestion, etc. Not a lot of good optio s that don't waste resources.

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jun 15 12:32:17 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by N6 Limited on Thu Jun 14 18:13:31 2018.

True...however people still have to get around.
Removal of one of the services would make delays worse..reduce TPH making trains more crowded.

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by N6 Limited on Fri Jun 15 12:48:37 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jun 15 12:32:17 2018.

I'm not so sure that it would make the delays worse. Crowded is ok if there isn't a conga line of "train traffic" adding to the red signals.

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jun 15 13:40:57 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by randyo on Thu Jun 14 15:03:33 2018.

Thanks to the railfan window I learned a lot by observation before I was hired. That "luxury" is a thing of the past.

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jun 15 13:43:45 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by Express Rider on Wed Jun 13 18:27:05 2018.

10 MPH or less where there is flagging, and weekends out there has a lot.

TSS' have radar guns. Sorry, the t/o is just protecting his wallet.

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jun 15 13:46:52 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Jun 14 15:02:12 2018.

Bulletin violation.

If the crew gets assaulted they have explaining to do while they're at the hospital getting treated.

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by randyo on Fri Jun 15 15:29:12 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jun 15 13:40:57 2018.

If the T/Os refrain from blocking the limited RFWs with the latest issue of the NY Times, you can still observe a lot.

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jun 15 16:52:18 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by N6 Limited on Fri Jun 15 12:48:37 2018.

Yeah...but less trains mean more folks trying to get on whatevers running,more people left on the platform while even more are still coming.
Weekend traveling is no different than weekday travel these days...
Which is Why riders are leaving in droves.
There is MUCH LESS SERVICE operating within the subway today..at ALL TIMES...
Uber Citibike and etc is making a killin here because of the MTA slack.

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jun 15 17:05:54 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jun 15 13:43:45 2018.

Nobody wants days in the street.

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by randyo on Fri Jun 15 18:44:27 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jun 15 16:52:18 2018.

Apparently, despite the rising fares allegedly driving passengers away from the NYCTS apparently there is more ridership than there was in the early 1960s. Back then, IND weekend service was done with 8 car trains on the expresses 4 car trains on the lcls (3 cars on Sundays) and in Qns, no BMT service at all and no dual A and C (AA) service on Fulton St in Bkln. The IRT ran with 6 car locals and 7 car expresses and the BMT ran with 6 car trains of steels on both lcl and exp lines on a 12 min headway on both Sat and Sun. Now with all BMT/IND lines except for the Eastern running 600 ft trains on lines some of which didn’t used to run at all on weekends at all, there are problems with overcrowding. That being said, there seems to be no excuse that the fares cannot be reasonably raised to meet the operating expenses of the NYCTS. These days they are making excuses for those people too0 poor to pay the existing fare, yet I hadn’t heard of too many reports of fare evasion during the great depression of the 1930s even though the nickel fare at the time was probably a greater proportion of the average wage at the time inflation being taken into consideration. Even post depression and post WWII into the 1960s and 1970s, I don’t recall fare evasion being as rampant as it is today. I’m not saying it didn’t exist but it didn’t seem to be as rampant as it is today.

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 15 19:41:54 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by randyo on Fri Jun 15 15:29:12 2018.

As Yogi said, "You can observe a lot by watching."

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Fri Jun 15 21:32:21 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by randyo on Fri Jun 15 15:29:12 2018.

What? Are they now blocking the window on the R160s? I thought T/O people were told not to do that.

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by Express Rider on Fri Jun 15 21:40:20 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jun 15 13:40:57 2018.

It would be nice if the MTA could be convinced of the space for a large number of passenger seats that would become available for if they eliminated the full width cabs (and gave the riding public back the RFW).
- and yes, I know this will never happen....

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by randyo on Sat Jun 16 15:46:13 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Fri Jun 15 21:32:21 2018.

The T/Os have always been told not to do that and there have been bulletins issued and reissued to that effect with instructions to TSSs and line supts to monitor for compliance. However, a few years ago a line supt told me that “They told us to go easy on that one.” My response was that if “they” didn’t put it in writing then “they” never said it. CTA has always had a tinted window in their operators’ cabs including the old corner cabs and an instructor I know told me that in Chicago, that rule not to cover the glass is strictly enforced. I have often ridden the T/Sq shuttle and noticed that the T/Os hang either their jackets or utility bags on a hook over the cab door window effectively blocking it. You would think that if the MTA didn’t want that window blocked, that the coat hook would have beed placed in such a way that it would be impossible to block but that doesn’t seem to be the case. Back when the BMT Multis were running, they had a long narrow window in the M/M’s cab door which while not quite the same as what the R-46s and up have, could be looked through if you hunched down a bit which I often did. I never recall seeing any BMT M/M worth his salt covering any part of that window at all.

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by randyo on Sat Jun 16 15:50:49 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by Express Rider on Fri Jun 15 21:40:20 2018.

If the MTA had any sense which of course it doesn’t it would utilize state of the art technology and use some form of closed circuit TV cameras like SEPTA does on the M/F cars which would allow the return to corner cabs. Not only would it provide a RFW which I’m sure the MTA couldn’t care less about, but with a view of the platform displayed on a screen in the cab, the T/O could operate doors on both sides of the train without ever having the leave the seat, thus saving dwell time at every station.

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by Express Rider on Sat Jun 16 21:31:36 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by randyo on Sat Jun 16 15:50:49 2018.

Good post. Thanks for the info. about the closed circuit TV, and the observation about this kind of system allowing less dwell time.

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by Dupont Circle Station on Mon Jun 18 15:51:39 2018, in response to Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by BrooklynTrain on Sun Jun 10 19:34:55 2018.

36&4th sounds just like when I lived out 25th Ave on the West End in 1986-87 (B back then). The whole 4th Ave subway was skeletonized down to 95th. 10mph speed limit at all times. That was on top of the misery of the Manny B closures. Savvy riders made sure they got on the right train in Manhattan during the daytime to avoid a transfer.

After 10PM, everyone going to Sea Beach or West End just took the R and endured the local ride even if the D was ready to go. At Dekalb it would always be pulling in as the R was departing. Most of the time that was the previous R but sometimes it was the one it left 34th or 14th with. Then, there were the miserable waits at 36th for your connecting train, which usually meant seeing the tail lights of the train you wanted disappearing into the tunnel as the doors opened.

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by bulk88 on Mon Jun 18 17:32:55 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by randyo on Sat Jun 16 15:50:49 2018.

On LU CCTV is also used at terminals to make sure T/Os are waiting on the platform for step back. Door holders also get a personalized GTFO over the station PA if they are holding the doors so the rest of their party coming down the escalator can get on the train. K2 zombies tend to be confronted by staff before 12-9. LU CCTVs must be watched since a line supervisor will be facing manslaughter charges at some stations if he doesn't watch the cameras and order the staff to do temporary closures during peak.

Some metros use full size mirrors on platform so driver doesn't sit up or opens the window at stations. You dont have to have CCTVs.

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by bulk88 on Mon Jun 18 17:40:17 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by Joe V on Wed Jun 13 09:44:59 2018.

Platform conductors can't make crackheads move faster than an earthworm. All of them know a platform conductor can't touch them, and NYPD has orders to reclassify it as "medical transport" not trespass citation if TB is detailed to 71 ave and is helping fumigate. Double ending is one solution, other is just start writing trespass charges.

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by randyo on Mon Jun 18 19:27:03 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by Express Rider on Sat Jun 16 21:31:36 2018.

Something that many railfans may not know is that the 2 experimental Multi units, the Zephyr and the Green Hornet had extendable rear view mirrors on both sides of the transverse M/M’s cabs so that the M/M could operate doors on both sides of the unit without leaving his seat. That was of course before the development of TV and the production Multis had small doors in the sides for the cars by the cabs for the eventual installation of rear view mirrors although those doors were sealed shut and mirrors were never installed.

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Jun 18 22:21:18 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by randyo on Sat Jun 16 15:50:49 2018.

The same screen could be connected to internal cameras that would allow the operator or conductor to scan the train quickly at terminals as well to make sure no one is riding into a relay or yard-- but that also makes too much sense as it would save lots of time as opposed to having someone walk the train.

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Jun 18 22:29:27 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jun 13 18:41:57 2018.

I don't think it was just a timer issue. We waited in the station for a minute, minute and a half until the R caught up. It was pretty deliberate.

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by randyo on Tue Jun 19 17:20:28 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by 3-9 on Mon Jun 18 22:29:27 2018.

One of the BMT old timers told me that back in the day, the train crews themselves would often operate in such a way that they would make connections if the other service was close by.

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 19 18:25:16 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by 3-9 on Mon Jun 18 22:29:27 2018.

That gets annoying, though, when it's the same train you connected with at the last express stop, essentially removing any benefit from taking the express.

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by randyo on Wed Jun 20 15:06:53 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 19 18:25:16 2018.

From what some of the planners in the schedule office told me, express tks were designed primarily for additional capacity rather than speed although the faster speed was a side benefit.

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Thu Jun 21 18:06:16 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by Express Rider on Thu Jun 14 01:27:27 2018.

Its not going to get better. A lot of newbies in all titles NOW, with more to come.....
The next 3-5 years will be interesting in transit, at least in RTO...

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Thu Jun 21 18:07:21 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jun 14 11:55:10 2018.

I just posted a similar response.....
Hru, bro? Long time....

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 21 19:26:48 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by randyo on Thu Jun 14 14:56:28 2018.

Very astute.
I once met with a "motorman" who intentionally sought to mislead me after I asked him a few questions.
Later that evening, I askes my dad the very same questions and he gave me the answers I was lookinng for.

Told him about the situation from earlier,and he responded with this..

"Some employees resent the general public,especially railbuffs or train nerds.His lie was his way of telling you to mind your own business."

And...you know what?
Ive seen enough of this behavior to know its fact.
Had a kid on my bus one day...an early trip...
Kid sat right up front...Being a fan..I knew he wanted to sit there with his mom,so I moved my bag so they could use the seats.

It was non stop yammering from then on until he took a nap.
Questions and more questions.
It irritated the heck out of me but I understood,being a fan that actually got to operate a coach.

He asked...
Answered the best I could...he was satisfied...so was I.
No more questions.

One thing I can be thankful for...he managed to engage me enough to keep me from getting "tunnel vision" and boredom.


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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by Express Rider on Thu Jun 21 19:27:10 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by randyo on Mon Jun 18 19:27:03 2018.

Once again, thank you for the details, for NY Transit history,AND rolling stock/rail history. I've posted this before (broken record here I guess), but these are the kinds of details you find in the books and articles written about histories of London Underground's rolling stock.

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by Express Rider on Thu Jun 21 19:41:41 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 21 19:26:48 2018.

re: Some employees resent the general public,especially railbuffs ...

I unfortunately had the same thing happen to me (as an adult) on Boston's Green Line late 80s- early 90s, and I was only asking a motorman a couple of basic questions. He replied that he was not allowed to answer any questions about operations, and that if I had questions, I should arrange for an instructor or a line supervisor* to accompany me on an LRV.

I can also understand the operator's point of view - he/she needs to concentrate on operating the train/coach and not be distracted by conversations.


*don't know if this is/ or was the correct term, just writing here from memory.

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Jun 22 06:49:06 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jun 15 13:40:57 2018.

I've never worked for any level of the MTA, operated a train of any kind or driven a bus of any kind. But from late 1996-early 1999, I rode the 1 every work day between 242 and Rector. Looking out the RFW, I developed a nearly complete understanding of all signal aspects, switch locations, and even tunnel features.

I'd had a partial understanding for a number of years previously, but those rush hour trips at RFW were an experience. I stood at the RFW both ways, for the whole trip, every single day.

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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Jun 22 06:57:10 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 13 12:55:30 2018.

I did not know that the privates had an off-peak fare- WOW!!

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by randyo on Fri Jun 22 17:21:14 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Thu Jun 21 18:06:16 2018.

Not to mention that the supervisors and superintendents aren’t any better!

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by randyo on Fri Jun 22 17:23:00 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by Express Rider on Thu Jun 21 19:27:10 2018.

You can also thank James C. Greller who had written several books on BMT rolling stock.

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Posted by randyo on Fri Jun 22 17:32:40 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by Express Rider on Thu Jun 21 19:41:41 2018.

I found just the opposite from the Boston T staff, but then I only started frequenting Boston after I became an NYCTA employee so I got a bit of professional courtesy.

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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jun 22 18:08:52 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by randyo on Fri Jun 22 17:21:14 2018.

The pool is weak.

Certainly not all, but most TD's. & TSS' take the job just to get off the road. In the case of the TD, they teach them how to do the paperwork and computer stuff. But if they are competent enoughnto straighten out a bad railroad and keep track of their crews? Sadly no in many cases.

They get their Superintendents from this pool. Most don't want the aggravation, 24/7 on call, and can make more money staying getting paid by the hour.

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Posted by Express Rider on Sat Jun 23 04:38:45 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by randyo on Fri Jun 22 17:23:00 2018.

I have Subway Cars of the BMT - I will have to re-read the chapter on the experimental units. I do remember the picture of the Green Hornet, with an outside mirror on one side, and the caption info. about a mirror on the other side (or just mirrors on both sides.)
But I don't remember any info. included about doors as provisions for mirrors on the Multis.

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Posted by randyo on Sat Jun 23 16:08:32 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by Express Rider on Sat Jun 23 04:38:45 2018.

If you look closely at photos of the Multis, you can see the rectangular outline where the mirrors were to be installed. I had the good fortune to ride the Multis in their last years of operation and I asked one of the M/M about those outlines and he explained that it was for a rear view mirror so the M/M could operate the doors. This was long before I learned the history behind the Multis.

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Posted by Express Rider on Sat Jun 23 21:17:14 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by randyo on Fri Jun 22 17:32:40 2018.

That's good.
Over my years in Boston, I did speak with other MTA employees who were more forthcoming in answering my questions.

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by jabrams on Sat Jun 30 17:38:13 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by pelham Exp on Mon Jun 11 16:58:43 2018.

What is the policy if a conductor sees the arriving train entering the station (outside of rush hours), are they allowed to wait that extra 30 seconds to 1 minute for the connection, or must they leave w3ithin there normal station dwell time?

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Jun 30 20:15:41 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by jabrams on Sat Jun 30 17:38:13 2018.

Here is the policy. If I'm on the express train, it would wait a good 5 minutes to the station for the local to connect. If I am on that arriving local train, the express train doors will stay open right until the moment that the local train that I meant is coming to a complete stop, and then the doors on the express train close and pull out right as my doors are opening.😑

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by N6 Limited on Sun Jul 1 14:03:57 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Jun 30 20:15:41 2018.

Haha

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by randyo on Sun Jul 1 17:47:32 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Jun 30 20:15:41 2018.

According to the bulletins I have seen, if a connecting train is arriving, the C/R on the train ion the station is required to make the connection in off peak hours.

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Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th

Posted by Bklynsubwaybob on Sun Jul 1 18:34:16 2018, in response to Re: Terrible delays on Queens Blvd today + Recent lack of holding lights at 36th/4th, posted by randyo on Sun Jul 1 17:47:32 2018.

That's correct.

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