|
|
| Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone (1458747) | |
 |
|
| Home > SubChat | |
[ Post a New Response | Return to the Index ]
|
Page 7 of 10 |
||
|
| (1459508) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Dec 23 07:55:08 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 23 06:58:42 2017. It takes two full years for Germans to earn a driver's license, and in that time, they don't just learn how to drive properly. They're taught everything about a car--including how to do minor repairs, and what every component of the vehicle does.What Germans think of American drivers is unprintable, and we have many times the number of cars, drivers, and road-miles they do. We also have a collision rate far out of proportion to the numbers, even after accounting for the differences in scale. |
|
|
| (1459509) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Dec 23 08:26:42 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Dec 22 13:28:46 2017. I've used various Toyota models and the manual always says 45 to 60 gets best gas mileage. I've tried to gauge it myself by looking at the rpm meter. If it's on the "2" at around 55, I try to sense how far it has gone towards the "3" as I get to higher speeds but I don't think there is much of a lack of proportion. |
|
|
| (1459510) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Dec 23 08:40:09 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Dec 22 23:53:17 2017. I like the creativity but I don't picture most of the cars behind waiting around to see if it works and they will likely start passing and prevent the hog from moving over to begin with. Although I ask: have you used this successfully? |
|
|
(Sponsored) |
iPhone 6 (4.7 Inch) Premium PU Leather Wallet Case - Red w/ Floral Interior - by Notch-It |
|
| (1459511) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Dec 23 09:12:33 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Dec 23 07:55:08 2017. Don't forget, Germany, at the time of this writing, has a lot less Asian drivers, hence less collisions! |
|
|
| (1459512) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Dec 23 09:21:55 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 23 06:47:26 2017. I said (meant) defy. As for the yammering, a big loud STFU usually works. |
|
|
| (1459514) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Dec 23 09:27:35 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Dec 23 09:12:33 2017. Are you suggesting Asians can't drive? |
|
|
| (1459515) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 23 09:41:47 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 23 06:47:26 2017. I meant "defy" |
|
|
| (1459516) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 23 09:48:44 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Dec 23 07:55:08 2017. Hah. And what are they taught here ?Parallel park (which they still can't do very well), do a K turn, learn hand signals (never used), and pass a esoteric written exam. |
|
|
| (1459517) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Dec 23 09:54:08 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 23 09:48:44 2017. Highway driving wasn't even on the road test when I did it 36 years ago. I'm sure it still isn't part of test now. Nighttime driving, which German motorists must also master before licensure, is just an afterthought here. |
|
|
| (1459518) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Dec 23 10:15:01 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Dec 23 09:54:08 2017. LION has thought that each driver must pass a test on a simulator.Simulators will be privately owned, people will pay a fee to use them, and earn a certificate when they pass. ROAR |
|
|
| (1459520) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Dec 23 10:24:20 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Dec 23 09:27:35 2017. Don't you have ANY semblance of gallows humor? |
|
|
| (1459521) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by Dave on Sat Dec 23 10:24:35 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Dec 23 00:38:34 2017. Why would CRM be taught to train crews? There's only one operator in the engine cab and the conductor/trainmen can't see what's ahead on the track. |
|
|
| (1459522) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Dec 23 10:28:45 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Dave on Sat Dec 23 10:24:35 2017. BNSF has two men in the cabs. (well sometimes).The Conductor is in charge of the train, but maybe some engineers do not know that anymore. ROAR |
|
|
| (1459523) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 23 10:38:59 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Dec 23 09:12:33 2017. How about women drivers? |
|
|
| (1459525) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Dec 23 10:48:46 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 23 10:38:59 2017. Oy vey! |
|
|
| (1459531) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by italianstallion on Sat Dec 23 11:28:34 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Dec 23 07:30:38 2017. And that is stupid. |
|
|
| (1459532) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by italianstallion on Sat Dec 23 11:29:06 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Dec 23 03:31:26 2017. Yeah, that's what he means. |
|
|
| (1459533) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by italianstallion on Sat Dec 23 11:30:24 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 23 06:58:42 2017. IAWTP!!! |
|
|
| (1459536) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by ElectricTraction on Sat Dec 23 11:45:18 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Dec 23 07:32:58 2017. That's a good point. DP does help train dynamics a lot. |
|
|
| (1459537) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 23 11:45:59 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by italianstallion on Sat Dec 23 11:28:34 2017. In ND, if someone is going 65 in the left hand lane, you just pass them on the right. |
|
|
| (1459538) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by ElectricTraction on Sat Dec 23 11:46:39 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Dec 23 07:35:20 2017. Yeah. I'm not sure the exact financials behind it, but I believe the planes and operating costs are not subsidized, but the airlines receive large subsidies through the ground facilities, i.e. airports and terminals that the government funds and airlines get to use relatively cheaply. Of course there are tax subsidies for many large businesses, and many of them just got larger the other day. |
|
|
| (1459539) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Dec 23 11:47:14 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Dec 23 10:28:45 2017. Conductor is only in charge, till shit hit fan, then they open up their list of excuses. |
|
|
| (1459540) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Dec 23 11:57:16 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Dec 23 08:40:09 2017. Once, and the SUV behind immediately got the idea and didn't undertake despite there being plenty of room to. There was an Uber or other car service car (black car with TLC plates) in the left lane on the thruway, going way too leisurely a speed for late night. The moment I could pass, I shot in front, switched in front of him, and slowed down. The guy behind did not undertake despite plenty of room. At around 55 MPH the taxi moved. The SUV did a single quick light flash to me before I shot back to full speed. Only reason I tried it was because I had encountered and struggled to pass him once before (I had stopped at a rest stop in between) and figured he needed to be educated on the ways of upstate.The other fun thing I did was try and block in a left lane hog with no EZ Pass into the EZ Pass only high speed area at the Harriman toll plaza. I had the help of a Trailways bus. Almost worked, but the guy realized what was happening and slowed down excessively to try and cut over. If nothing else he hopefully realized that the left lane is a terrible place to be if you don't know what you're doing... |
|
|
| (1459541) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Dec 23 12:09:40 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by AlM on Fri Dec 22 20:05:11 2017. I was driving on I-25 in Wyoming last summer . Speed limit there is 80mph. At that constant speed you really got to be on your toes, and have good tires. A blowout at 80mph could ruin your whole day.You can come up Fed Ex tandems doing 60-65 real quick. Also at that speed, My Subaru Forester gobbles the gas in great gobs. Cuts gas mileage just about in half. No boxer engine economy at that speed. But excessive speed is not my biggest concern on the road nowadays. Its texting while driving. I do a lot of driving & I see about 1 in 4 drivers texting. I'd make the fine start at $200. with 4 points. Second offense fine plus 6 mos suspension. They should consider penalizeing texting while driving on a par with DUI. |
|
|
| (1459542) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Dec 23 12:13:35 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Dec 23 09:54:08 2017. I was tested on neither of those when I did it 6 years ago. I practiced highway driving on my own in rental cars after getting my license. |
|
|
| (1459548) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Dec 23 13:09:11 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Dec 23 10:28:45 2017. The engineer moves the train. He is the captain of the ship. Never mind this conductor propoganda!At NYCT, the conductor is in charge too, at management's convenience because all of a sudden with OPTO that disappears w/o comment, but that's getting off on a tangent. |
|
|
| (1459549) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by randyo on Sat Dec 23 13:17:04 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Steamdriven on Fri Dec 22 20:17:06 2017. Although speeds have been increased since I bought my first car during the 55 MPH days of the 1970s, I don’t feel comfortable driving at more than the 65 or 70 MPH speed limits that are on most of the highways I usually drive. I feel more comfortable driving at slightly lower speeds although not quite at “grandpa” speeds but at a speed that I feel allows me the best control over my vehicle. |
|
|
| (1459550) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by randyo on Sat Dec 23 13:22:53 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Dec 23 11:57:16 2017. I normally don’t like to be a left lane hog, but some highways I have driven have the exit ramps or diversions to another road in the left lane, so I have no choice but to use the left lane to avoid having to fishtail over at the last minute especially if I am not completely familiar with the road. |
|
|
| (1459551) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by randyo on Sat Dec 23 13:31:41 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Dec 23 10:15:01 2017. Back when I first got my license, simulators were not required although I believe they did exist. The drivers here in NY had to pass a road test with a NYS DMV inspector in the vehicle and were required to demonstrate the proper use of hand signals, left and right turns, parallel parking and a K turn (referred to at the time as a “broken U turn”). Driving a short distance in heavy traffic was also required but as was mentioned by another poster, highway driving wasn’t even considered and If I recall, drivers on learner’s permits were not allowed on parkways or tother highways. |
|
|
| (1459552) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Dec 23 13:34:46 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by randyo on Sat Dec 23 13:22:53 2017. That's an entirely different story, it's not left lane hogging if there's a left exit coming up within 2-4 miles. Thruway exit 24 in the southbound direction is the only one of those in my area (or at least the only one where the leftmost travel lane becomes an exit lane), but I know there's tons of them in the NYC/NJ area. |
|
|
| (1459553) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 23 13:38:54 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Dec 22 23:53:17 2017. I've done something like that once in my life. It was a hilly, very crowded two lane road with lots of short turnouts and very occasional passing lanes.A big RV that didn't have enough pep for the uphills refused to use the turnouts and had accumulated many dozens of cars behind him. Finally a passing lane came. I passed him, cut in front of him, and slowed him down to 20 going up the hill, allowing dozens of cars to pass. Then I floored it and left him in the dust. It was the most satisfying revenge I've ever gotten on a selfish slow poke. |
|
|
| (1459562) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by italianstallion on Sat Dec 23 15:02:41 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 23 11:45:59 2017. I get it. But that's the whole point. Passing on the right is unsafe, and often impossible. But I guess there is so little traffic there, you can do it. |
|
|
| (1459564) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by italianstallion on Sat Dec 23 15:04:27 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Dec 23 13:34:46 2017. There aren't tons. But there are some. |
|
|
| (1459565) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by italianstallion on Sat Dec 23 15:05:16 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Dec 23 12:09:40 2017. I agree re texting. It is a menace. |
|
|
| (1459570) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by Steamdriven on Sat Dec 23 15:41:54 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Dec 23 12:09:40 2017. They do include it in crash investigations, I imagine it will soon be treated as an upcharge in terms of negligence in a crash. I'd place crashing while texting on par with crashing while DUI, if anything one is a worse driver while texting than at .08. |
|
|
| (1459571) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by Steamdriven on Sat Dec 23 15:45:25 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 23 13:38:54 2017. Good work, hundreds of other drivers on that trip thank you if they knew. |
|
|
| (1459573) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by Peter Rosa on Sat Dec 23 15:58:26 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Dec 23 13:09:11 2017. At NYCT, the conductor is in charge too, at management's convenience because all of a sudden with OPTO that disappears w/o comment, but that's getting off on a tangent.I believe that was an issue with the Union Square wreck. The conductor knew that the TO was going way too fast but was unsure if he had the authority to do anything. |
|
|
| (1459574) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by Peter Rosa on Sat Dec 23 15:59:44 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 22 23:39:34 2017. Sorry, August. |
|
|
| (1459575) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 23 16:02:38 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by italianstallion on Sat Dec 23 15:02:41 2017. The "cool" thing in NJ is when the right lane ends, or an entrance ramp ends, race along until that lane ends and cut over to the left and cut off whoever is there. They think they are entitled. No concept of yielding or merging in the least disruptive manner into the flow. |
|
|
| (1459576) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Dec 23 16:07:14 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Dec 23 13:09:11 2017. "Never mind this conductor propoganda!"Its not propaganda, it is truth. The engineer runs the train & the conductor conducts transportation inasmuch overseeing all aspects train handleing and paperwork (shipping orders & waybills), its personnel & compliance with all safety rules. Loosely translated, the Conductor is the boss. My son was a freight conductor for CN years ago. Systemwide speed limit on all their trackage (then) was 40 mph. Their book of rules clearly states that if the engineer goes over the 40mph speed limit, it is the conductors responsibility to "advise" the engineer twice if necessary to slow down. If the instruction is ignored a second time, the conductor is to dump the train. My son did exactly that one time when his train was doing 51mph.He got a commundation & the engineer got an unpaid vacation. The engineer threatning to throw him off the train didn't help his cause either. Just another day in the life of a freight conductor. |
|
|
| (1459582) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 23 18:14:43 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Peter Rosa on Sat Dec 23 15:59:44 2017. Yes, you're right. |
|
|
| (1459583) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 23 18:15:14 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 23 16:02:38 2017. So you're an early merger? You are a waste of space. |
|
|
| (1459584) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 23 18:16:19 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 23 18:15:14 2017. I meant on the road. Not as a human being. Sorry if my post could be interpreted as a personal insult. |
|
|
| (1459588) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 23 18:59:04 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 23 18:15:14 2017. I said merge in at a least disruptive manner as possible. Waiting until the last possible moment then cutting off whoever leads to accidents and citations for failure to yield. |
|
|
| (1459593) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 23 20:03:41 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 23 18:59:04 2017. But moving forward and then merging with due care is more efficient and also safe. |
|
|
| (1459599) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Dec 23 21:50:28 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 23 20:03:41 2017. I believe it was in the Miami area I would see "merge" printed on both the acceleration lane and the right-most through lane creating the idea that the onus was on both lanes to make sure there would be no conflict when a car in either lane passes the merge point at the end of the acceleration lane. It basically put an entering car and a through car on equal footing with regard to ROW at the merge point.I can't say whether that's a safer way to do it, or whether people were listening to it (as I wasn't behind the wheel while down there). I also forget if they put a solid white line down to set the right most through lane apart from the other lanes to the left to avoid other interference with the merge. |
|
|
| (1459601) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Dec 23 22:14:55 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Dec 22 13:28:46 2017. For mine it depends on whether AWD is active. If not, higher speeds seem to be more efficient, I haven't gone long stretches above my personal comfort ceiling of 78 but it seems to be the best.If AWD is active, the weather's gone to shit enough that I can't reliably cruise and get estimates. But it seems be particularly terrible mileage over 65. |
|
|
| (1459606) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Dec 23 23:33:19 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 23 13:38:54 2017. Awesome! |
|
|
| (1459607) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 24 00:03:49 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 23 20:03:41 2017. If the road is empty, then it doesn't matter where the driver merges.If the road has cars, then the driver should enter a good gap, regardless of whether it's early or late. If the road is so full that there are no gaps, the driver should drive to the end of the lane and force entry there, and no earlier. |
|
|
| (1459608) | |
Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone |
|
|
Posted by Ian Lennon on Sun Dec 24 00:03:56 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Dec 22 13:28:46 2017. Back then most cars had a 3, maybe 4 speed automatic. Now the autos have more gears than manual. Most Americans don't know how to drive manual, let alone own one. |
|
|
|
Page 7 of 10 |
||
