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Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Tue Nov 8 08:14:17 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 7 21:43:23 2011. I don't see Ozone Park becoming a fun "weekend destination" for a small trip.Haha! :-D I can just imagine the songs... Ozone Park with the Lights Out... Your Love is like Ozone Park... Don't Make me Come to Ozone Park... Queen of Ozone Park... People Get Really Drunk in Ozone Park... 40 Miles to Ozone Park... |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Nov 8 08:19:55 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 7 21:32:09 2011. "You are a minority at this point. Horse racing has been dying a slow death for years."
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 08:26:26 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Nov 8 08:19:55 2011. All the big cups and derbies willl draw a large crowd, but those are just specific events. Horse racing was big years ago because it was the only gambling in town legal. Casinos, lottery, scratch offs, have all helped horse racing's decline. And getting "$40,000" once a week or so once in a while is hardly something huge. A stadium can fill that up easily too for an event. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Tue Nov 8 08:28:09 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Nov 8 04:04:26 2011. Forget about sending the C to Lefferts. That is political suicide on a fight that the MTA doesn't want to expend political capital on. It's DOA.I've outlined the two things that Resorts World could offer to pay for that based on prior experience there is some chance the MTA would accept. Suggesting things that the MTA are very unlikely to accept, such as super-expresses, even more peak only trains in the Cranberry St tunnel, and downgrading Lefferts to local service just mistakes who has the ultimate power to say yes or no. Casino patrons can pout and stamp their feet all they like, but they have much less political power than the neigborhoods along the Liberty Avenue El; the only power they have is financial, which is why I'm guessing that there is quite a likelihood of a subsidized extension of the shuttle to connect with the Lefferts A trains. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Nov 8 08:45:51 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 08:11:14 2011. It's true for ALL casinos. Slots are the biggest money maker for a casino. NO one is denying that. That is not saying that table games aren't a big draw. There are many that ONLY go for the table games. There's a difference between "biggest money maker" and big draw.But if you build a more convenient alternative to the "biggest money maker," the casinos will struggle to survive. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Nov 8 08:48:36 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec.(Here is a photo!), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 08:07:53 2011. There is STILL a mechanical connection between the reels. There might be a switch that commands the computer chip to start and stop the reels, etc., but the machine itself is still a mechanical device. I've seen my brother-in-law open a mechanical slot up in front of me, and watched the reels and rods operate up and down while the game is played. To me, an "electronic" slot machine has no such moving parts, just screens, pushbuttons, and card readers. |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Tue Nov 8 09:17:03 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec.(Here is a photo!), posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Nov 8 08:48:36 2011. But everything about it incl when the reels stop spinning is electronic. Nothing about it is any different than the electronic card games you don't like. The computer is in control of all aspects of both. There is no chance involved. Whether you win is predetermined by electronic settings. It's not like the old mechanical slots when all that mattered was when and where the reels stopped spinning. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 09:44:37 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec.(Here is a photo!), posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Nov 8 08:48:36 2011. No, the only thing "mechanical" in the machine is the fact that the reels are real reels, that's it. Seeing the "reels spin", may be "mechanical" in the fact that they are real reels spinning, but EVERTHING about them is electronic. Starting them, stopping them, and a predetermined program on when it will win is ALL electronic, and just as electronically decided as the computer screen games. There is nothing by chance or mechanically in the way they win, it's ALL electronic, aside from the physical spinning of the wheels (which is also started and stopped electronically) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 09:48:46 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Nov 8 08:45:51 2011. "More convenient alternative"? What do you mean?Anyway, again, ALL casinos need slots to survive, not the other way around, but the table games at casinos are most definitely a huge draw too. Most casinos HAVE to have slots, but without table games, the other alternative casinos will remain popular too. I have only once been to a casino that was all table games, with no slots, and it was in Commerce, CA on I5, and it was the most boring Casino I have ever seen. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 09:52:40 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Nov 8 08:45:51 2011. By "more convenient alternative" do you mean that electronic card games are "more convenient alternative" to table games? They aren't even close to an alternative to table games if that's what you mean. ALL casinos have electronic card poker, blackjack, etc games even if they have table games too. They are not an "alternative" to table games. Real card/roulette, etc tables are based on chance, the electronic ones are not. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Nov 8 09:59:49 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 09:52:40 2011. By "more convenient alternative" do you mean that electronic card games are "more convenient alternative" to table games?I mean Aqueduct is more convenient than Atlantic City, and the slots are bigger draw (by 2.5 times) in Atlantic City than the table games, so it's likely that a significant portion of Atlantic City's market will divert to Aqueduct. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue Nov 8 10:51:35 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Nov 8 04:06:30 2011. IINM, that would require a change to the state constitution. And it would likely completely kill the Atlantic City bus trip market as well as be the death knell for several of the casinos. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 11:19:29 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Nov 8 09:59:49 2011. I don't agree. While it will get former AC customers, there are multiple casinos, at AC, while only one at Aqueduct. Aqueduct will never be the destination AC is.And for the 100th time, ALL casinos get their biggest revenue from slots, even in Las Vegas. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Nov 8 11:44:58 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 11:19:29 2011. While it will get former AC customers, there are multiple casinos, at AC, while only one at Aqueduct. Aqueduct will never be the destination AC is.No, it won't be a "destination," but your average daytripper probably won't care. And for the 100th time, ALL casinos get their biggest revenue from slots, even in Las Vegas. When did I ever dispute that? You're the one suggesting table games are a big enough draw to sustain a casino. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 11:55:54 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Nov 8 11:44:58 2011. You're the one suggesting table games are a big enough draw to sustain a casino.???? Where? That's your inference. I SAID, "table games are a big draw", and they ARE to a lot of people. You are the ones that brought up revenue stream and "sustainability", neither of which have anything to do with my comment. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue Nov 8 12:48:53 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec.(Here is a photo!), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 09:44:37 2011. Inside a modern 'mechanical' slot machine: Inside a real mechanical slot machine: 
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 13:23:12 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec.(Here is a photo!), posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue Nov 8 12:48:53 2011. EXACTLY! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 8 13:27:36 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec.(Here is a photo!), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 13:23:12 2011. When is JayZeeBMT going to address this and apologize? When will he admit that he was wrong in this post:Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec.(Here is a photo!) (1115512) ...as I had correctly inferred in the post he was replying to? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 13:41:44 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 08:26:26 2011. There wasn't supposed to be a $ before 40,000 above.... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 13:42:53 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Tue Nov 8 08:14:17 2011. "What happens in Ozone Park, stays in Ozone Park...." :) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 8 13:51:11 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Oct 28 07:57:42 2011. Although it's too late now, they should have taken the opportunity to build a new station which combined both Aquaduct and North Conduit. There's plenty of space on the ROW for a large island platform which could have had a southern exit near N Conduit and a northern exit directly into the new casino. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 13:51:59 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 8 07:31:00 2011. Years ago, the Mashantuckets tweaked their slot machines to pay off more often. While they were raking in the money, they became aware that if nobody was winning, people might lose interest.That is absolutely correct. In Vegas, I personally have stayed much longer in casinos where I win "token" wins every so often. It DOES psychologically keep your interest. I probably even spent more in those casinos, where I "won" even token wins. For example, on the screen slot machine games (the ones that are becoming the most prevalent at most casinos) have are let's say "5 cents", and you need to play "9 credits" or should play "45 credits", etc. Each time you play, it deducts however many credits you want to play on however many lines you want to play. (If there are lets say 5 "reels", you can have many diagonal and zigzagging lines on it) too, so even when they aren't straight across, the wins are determined by lines, not positions. Also, many of these also have "bonus rounds", which play a little sort of movie where you can win even more credits, which pop up every once in a while. In any event, what I mean is that you bet let's say 1 credit for 9 lines, that's actually 9 credits used, and then it comes back, and you won "5 credits". You get all excited, that you "won", but it really snatched 4 credits in the process. Of course, the more credits you bet, the more you win if you do get a REAL win, so that's the incentive to do that. Also, sometimes you will bet "9 credits", and then win "15 credits back". It's not a heck of a lot, but again, it keeps you at the machine to slowly lose your money..... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 13:55:34 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 8 13:51:11 2011. I agree, but I made my post before I realized they were physically connecting North Conduit. At this point, not only don't they not need Aqueduct another platform there, but instead, probably should just abandon and remove the one they already have. North Conduit is already called North Conduit-Aqueduct. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue Nov 8 14:03:28 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 13:51:59 2011. Note they use 'credits' not dollars and cents; another way they mess with your head, since a credit is always a credit, no matter if you sit a a 5c machine or a $5 machine. It's the value of the credit that they hide from you. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 18:22:04 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue Nov 8 14:03:28 2011. On most of them though they do publish what the dollar amount is. Also, on most of them, while the default is set to "credits", you can usually change that to dollar amount in the settings. I like it better as "credits" as the games are mostly done by "bet howevermany credits" to play. The days of throwing a quarter into a mechanical machine are long gone. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 8 21:37:27 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec.(Here is a photo!), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 08:08:40 2011. Right. The RNG determines the outcome when you press the button/turn the lever and the wheels simply spin to the already predetermined outcome. Any sort of moving parts are to ensure the wheels stop in the right place and the system knows when the wheels are stopped so it only pays off then (if applicable). |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Nov 9 06:35:50 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Tue Nov 8 08:28:09 2011. This is one time I disagree:1. On half of the Liberty Avenue section (Grant Ave.-Rockaway Blvd.), there actually would be a significant increase in overall service since you would have the Far Rockaway AND Rockaway Park branches of the A train AND the C train also operating to Lefferts. 2. Lefferts riders at the three stations affected can make a same platform transfer anywhere between Rockaway Blvd. and Grant Avenue or a cross-platform transfer at Euclid. 3. A the C would be a 24/7 line as I would have it, there would be NO overnight shuttle, which would eliminate the two-seat ride late-night riders on the Lefferts branch currently have (something people who live there conveniently forget about). The fact is, the casino is likely going to force changes on the A/C, especially once the full casino opens late next month. Some of these politicians and others are going to have to realize that casino is likely going to dictate changes of one kind or another they may not like. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Nov 9 06:39:37 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 13:55:34 2011. It always has been Aqueduct-North Conduit Avenue.Perhaps down the road if they decide an island platform is needed at North Conduit, they re-do the station to a three-platform setup where the current exit at the racetrack is the south end of the station with the north end being the existing Aqueduct station platform, with all three platforms reaching what is currently the existing entrance to the Aqueduct Racetrack station platform. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Nov 9 06:41:38 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 8 07:31:00 2011. Actually, I believe they do plan to eventually have a hotel on the site as well. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 07:09:06 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 18:22:04 2011. Yes, but even in a "modern" mechanical slot, there are actual reels and moving parts. I still say an electronic slot has no such mechanical components. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 07:56:11 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 07:09:06 2011. Haven't we been over this? Now what you are saying is not what you said originally, "I still say an electronic slot has no such mechanical compnents". Well duh, who said they did?And the slots with reels are just as electronic as any of the screen games in the way they work and pay out. Everything about the wheels is electronic, from when they start spinning to when they stop. You press an electronic button which sends an electronic message to the computer to begin spinning the reels to a predetermined result in the computer which then tells the wheels electronically to stop. An electronic message then calculates your win or loss, and electronically changes your credit amount. When you are done, you press another button which electronically tells the computer you are ready to cash out, and it electronically prints a slip out for whatever credit you have left in your electronic money amount. It makes an electronic sound of coins falling as it prints your electronic slip out with the dollar amount printed on it. No levers, no mechanics, no change clanking out, none of it. An modern slot with reels is just as electronic as the ones with screens, only difference is it has reels that spin electronically rather than a screen. You are NO more likely to "win" with an electronic slot with spinning reels than with an electronic slot with a screen, both have the same computer telling them what the predetermined payout will be every time someone presses the button. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 07:59:11 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Nov 9 06:35:50 2011. And most people will still come by car, just as they did for the Racetrack, and just as they do for other Casinos. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 08:04:36 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 07:56:11 2011. A "solid-state" electronic machine has no mechanical parts. A "modern mechanical" machine does. How can a slot machine with mechanical reels spin "electronically"? Yes, there is a computer that starts and stops the reels spinning. But the machine still has gears and rods that make its reels spin, which is why I say it's mechanical. |
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Posted by hank eisenstein on Wed Nov 9 08:12:24 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 07:59:11 2011. I don't think so. The racetrack has been dying a slow death for the last three decades, and this is the only casino within the city limits, the only one accessible by subway... |
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Posted by hank eisenstein on Wed Nov 9 08:15:48 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 08:04:36 2011. There are no rods or levers as you asserted. The reels are spun by individual electric step motors, all electronically actuated. The only thing that's mechanical about them is the bill/ticket acceptor and voucher printer. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 10:53:44 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 08:04:36 2011. Because they aren't "mechanical reels". They are only spun after YOU press an electronic button, which then electronically tells the wheels to spin, and the computer also, through a predetermined result, tells them electronically where and when to stop.It's not a game of chance, it's just as electronically determined as the slot machines with the screens. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 10:59:48 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 10:53:44 2011. So now let's get back to your original post, before you tried to save yourself from your false assumption/statement:http://www.subchat.com/read.asp?Id=1115434 I hated the idea of playing cards with a robot, so I stuck to the slots. Slots range from penny slots to $5 and up. I think the State Legislature will eventually change the law to allow actual human dealers in casinos here. So now, what exactly is the "advantage" of playing a ROBOTIC Machine with electronically spinning wheels set to pay out or not payout at predetermined intervals set electronically, to playing a Robotic machine with an electronic screen set to pay out or not payout at predetermined intervals set electronically? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 11:03:20 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by hank eisenstein on Wed Nov 9 08:15:48 2011. Correct. And to resubmit exhibit A and B:Current electronic reel slot: Old style real mechanical Slot: |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 11:04:26 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by hank eisenstein on Wed Nov 9 08:12:24 2011. We shall see. I do agree we have a unique situation here. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 9 11:07:17 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 10:59:48 2011. Excellent post. This is the exact question I was asking in this post: So you're ok playing slots with a robot but not playing cards with a robot? WTF? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 11:21:07 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 9 11:07:17 2011. All three of these machines are THE same in the fact that they are all Electronically operated, and all pay out or don't pay out at predetermined intervals, electronically decided:  |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 11:21:31 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 9 11:07:17 2011. All three of these machines are THE same in the fact that they are all Electronically operated, and all pay out or don't pay out at predetermined intervals, electronically decided: |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 9 12:19:55 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 07:09:06 2011. Which are skeuomorphic and have no effect on the outcome whatsoever. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 9 12:22:23 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 10:53:44 2011. That still makes it a "game of chance." It's certainly not a "game of skill." |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 14:41:22 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 9 12:22:23 2011. Well I mean "random". Actually the machines that are cards, as opposed to electronic slots, have a little more element of skill in them than the other slots, as you can still hit when you shouldn't, and so forth. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 9 18:15:22 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 14:41:22 2011. Are you talking about black jack? It's possible to simulate the deck of cards (by randomly predetermining the order of the cards) coming out of the shoe, but I will assume that the electronic blackjack tables are equivalent to a continuously shuffled table. So there really is no difference other than the ambience of having a human dealer.In the case of slots, the old all mechanical system is pretty much as random as the the current electronic system. |
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Posted by Charles G on Wed Nov 9 20:29:23 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 8 07:31:00 2011. The existence of Table Games also increases Slot revenues.I play Poker and Blackjack. My wife plays the slots. We aren't going to go to a Racino which doesn't have table games. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 21:25:16 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by Charles G on Wed Nov 9 20:29:23 2011. E-X-A-C-T-T-L-Y |
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Posted by JBar387 on Thu Nov 10 13:38:02 2011, in response to Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec., posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Oct 28 06:12:58 2011. This one was done by someone I know at the track! The skybridge is shown!
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 10 14:09:22 2011, in response to Re: Aqueduct Casino Opens Today; Subway Skybridge To Be Finished In Dec. (Here is one more photo), posted by JBar387 on Thu Nov 10 13:38:02 2011. Thanks. |
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