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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 15:55:12 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by Easy on Sat Dec 31 13:11:05 2011. No, it's not "now", North Amityville has been bad since the 60's. In the 70's and 80's it was probably worse than now. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 15:56:33 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by Easy on Sat Dec 31 13:23:02 2011. There was a problem like that in Sayville in the early 90's. Almost half the downtown area went up in flames. They finally caught the guy, and he would always be amongst the crowd watching the firemen put out the fires. He was mentally disturbed. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 15:58:12 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 31 13:06:56 2011. North Amityville is a mostly Black area. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 15:58:58 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 31 13:42:14 2011. He's right about Huntington Station. The "bad" part of Huntington Station is mostly Hispanic, but there's a lot of not bad areas there too. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 16:00:50 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 31 15:30:01 2011. You do have a bias, he is right. Wyandanch is way worse than Brentwood, and North Amityville has been mostly black since the 1960's, and was bad even back then already. There are a lot of Hispanics too, but it's still mostly black. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 31 16:01:39 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 31 15:30:01 2011. I don't have a bias. I have said that there is crime beyond Brentwood.Admitting that Islip Airport had its fair share of crimes with people point lasers at planes doesn't count bro. As for Wyandanch, it just does not seem to have as many shootings and stabbings as nearby towns do. Stats may say it's dangerous, but I guess Newsday and Long Island Press simply neglect to report the stories, which is what I go by. I'm not sure about that, but you raised a good point and I'll take your word for it, you do hear far more about Nassau than Suffolk in the news anyway. N. Amityville is a huge barrio now. I looked at wikipedia 2000 stats. I'd like to see 2010. No way Hispanics are only 13% of N. Amityville population today. According to the 2010 Census, hispanics make up 29% of the population versus that 13% figure, but Blacks still make up 56% of the population. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 31 16:06:14 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 16:00:50 2011. Blacks are probably around 50% of N. Amityville. Hispanics about 35-40%.I don't have a bias. I go by Newsday and Long Island Press. They have not published nearly as many Wyandanch stories as I would expect from a "bad" town. Aside from the drive-by killing of a bus driver, Wyandanch didn't make headlines for many years. It was mostly Brentwood, Central Islip and Huntington Station. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 31 16:11:38 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 15:53:24 2011. Gordon Heights and N Amityville are terrrible neighborhoods, just like Wyandanch.Gordon Heights really intrigues me, especially considering the legends/rumors I've read about that place, and how far it is from the city and 3 other predominately black areas in Suffolk County. Let's be honest though, people in the suburbs do tend to exaggerate crime, and nothing in Suffolk County could even touch NYC's worst areas, and the stats prove it. You are right about Wheatly Heights, it's income is probably similar to the better Black neighborhoods in Southeastern Queens. Good to know, hopefully Wyandanch, North Amityville, and Gordon Heights could all turn into neighborhoods like Wheatley Heights or Rosedale one day. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 31 16:13:07 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 15:54:19 2011. You are all worked up.You were not even born in the 60's. I go by what I see and experience in the present day. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 31 16:13:41 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 15:58:58 2011. No he's not, Huntington Station is mostly white, with 64% of residents identifying themselves as such. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 31 16:14:18 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 31 16:11:38 2011. How do you "exaggerate" shootings and stabbings? |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 16:18:16 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 31 16:06:14 2011. No, there are about two blacks for every one Hispanic in North Amityville:http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/36/3651396.html |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 31 16:18:16 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 31 16:14:18 2011. You can exaggerate the chances of being involved in one. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 31 16:19:17 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 31 16:13:41 2011. You misread. Go down a few lines to "White Non-Hispanic". Whites are less than half of Huntington Station.Even if Hispanics make up just 30% of a local population, that is enough to start seeing increases in street crime like we saw last night in N. Amityville. A neighborhood does not have to be "mostly" minority to have serious problems. Around 30-40% is enough to kill a neighborhood. I just saw some lowlife walking down Corona Ave with praying hands and rosary beads tattooed to his arm. It's amazing how the Hispanic street thug culture has hijacked Christian symbolism. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 16:21:11 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 31 16:11:38 2011. Gordon Heights has much different housing stock than Wheatly Heights, so I doubt it.Gordon Heights is an unusual neighborhood. It's one of the only I know of that is, and ALWAYS was a Black neighborhood. Unlike most other Black Neighborhoods, which usually were white neighborhoods that slowly turned black in the 60's, Gordon Height was built as a "Black Neighborhood". It began in the 40's or 50's, and the developer actually promoted to and targeted Black families to buy homes there. So it it's one of the few Black Neighborhoods that was always Black, and never White. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 31 16:21:36 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 16:18:16 2011. If 28.5% of N. Amityville is Latino, that's enough to call it a barrio. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 16:22:50 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 31 16:13:07 2011. LOL! I'm not worked up at all, but it's a FACT that North Amityville was bad in the 60's and especially by the 70's already. It's nothing surprising, nor new. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 16:24:18 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 31 16:13:41 2011. THat is what I said, I SAID the "Bad" part of Huntington Station...reread my post. Unlike "North Amityville", or "Wyandanch", which is all bad....Huntington Station isn't "all" bad, the white area is not the "bad" part of Huntington Station. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 16:25:37 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 31 16:18:16 2011. Which is what he does. And furthermore, most of this crime is being committed by people that know eachother. That's different than "random" crime. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 16:27:40 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 31 16:21:36 2011. If you want...but almost 60% of it is Black. That's double. But do note that if 56% is Black, and 28.5% is Hispanic, that means that is already about 85% of it is either Black or Hispanic. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 31 16:27:53 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 16:25:37 2011. You're all worked up.I don't exaggerate. I simply post stories from Newsday or LIP when there is a shooting or stabbing or really violent crime in Suffolk County, usually in the towns I like. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 16:28:45 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 31 16:27:53 2011. Yes, AND it's mostly being done by people that know eachother. Again, that's different than random crime, so Osmosis is right. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Dec 31 16:35:34 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 16:27:40 2011. Not being from the LI area, I have a real question. Why/When did the Blacks and Hispanics move to Suffolk County? What was out there that attracted them to move there? |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 31 16:37:01 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 16:28:45 2011. He's right because the people know each other? Ok.Do you think the NYCT Bus Operator shot at a Wyandanch party knew his shooter? Or the several drive-by shootings in Brentwood and Central Islip in the last month? All you have to do is look at someone the wrong way out there and you can get shot. Gang initiations have been part of the problem and they usually target random subjects who they don't know. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 31 16:37:33 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 16:21:11 2011. Gordon Heights has much different housing stock than Wheatly Heights, so I doubt it.Hey, with the forthcoming Yaphank electrification project, you never know. Gordon Heights is an unusual neighborhood. It's one of the only I know of that is, and ALWAYS was a Black neighborhood. Unlike most other Black Neighborhoods, which usually were white neighborhoods that slowly turned black in the 60's, Gordon Height was built as a "Black Neighborhood". It began in the 40's or 50's, and the developer actually promoted to and targeted Black families to buy homes there. So it it's one of the few Black Neighborhoods that was always Black, and never White. And how it was able to attract so many people despite being so far from the city, let alone decent rail service to the city at the time is unusual. Apparently in the 60s, North Amityville was also being advertised as a "black-friendly" version of Levittown, and I wonder if Gordon Heights was the same case. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 16:39:51 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 31 16:37:01 2011. The majority are crimes involving people that know eachother. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 31 16:40:31 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 31 16:19:17 2011. You misread. Go down a few lines to "White Non-Hispanic". Whites are less than half of Huntington Station.You're right, why would a Hispanic person fill identify themselves as white though if the survey apparently had a "Hispanic" option? |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 31 16:41:00 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 16:39:51 2011. I Strongly AWTP. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 31 16:41:41 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 16:24:18 2011. Ah ok, I got you. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 31 16:43:10 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 16:39:51 2011. Perhaps. I'm sure that last night's drive-by was done by someone who had a beef with someone there.What do you think of the lowlife culture hijacking Christianity? Lowlife garbage wearing wooden rosary beads or getting Christian tattoos as gang symbols? |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 16:43:31 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 31 16:37:33 2011. Gordon Heights was very much so advertised as "Black friendly", and even earlier than North Amityville. Gordon Heights was Black in the 1920's already. It began as a Black neighborhood.History Gordon Heights had its beginnings in the early 1920s, when developer Louis Fife went to Black neighborhoods in New York City (Harlem, Brooklyn, and the Bronx) with the offer of land and a better life on Long Island.[2][3] Land was offered as low as $10 down and $10 monthly or $10 weekly. Promoted as a place that would be a solid, close-knit community of small farms, the pilgrimage to Long Island began in 1927.[4] Gordon Heights was named after "Pop" Gordon, a man who had previously owned most of the land that became part of the new community http://www.longwood.k12.ny.us/history/Gordon%20Heights/history.htm |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 31 16:44:19 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 31 16:40:31 2011. I guess the racist Hispanics who hate blacks self-identify as white. :) |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 31 16:44:21 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 16:25:37 2011. Exactly, it's not the 90's anymore anyways and gang initiations involving innocent people wearing a certain color aren't as popular any more, gang initiations nowadays seem to only involve people of rival gangs since the gangs know what members of rival gangs look like. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 16:45:12 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 31 16:43:10 2011. What do you think of the lowlife culture hijacking Christianity?Never gave it a second thought. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 31 16:48:58 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 16:45:12 2011. It's everywhere. The garbage either wears wooden rosary beads with tattoos of praying hands or some color variation of the NY Yankees cap.My favorite lowlife Yankee cap is grey with NY in florescent green. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 31 16:53:52 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 16:43:31 2011. Wow, good article, thanks for sharing it. I guess it was yet another black area that has fallen to the crack epidemic? |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 31 16:54:01 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 31 16:44:19 2011. Lol. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 31 16:58:01 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 31 16:53:52 2011. And the only reason I'm saying that is because Wyandanch and North Amityville were apparently also at their worse during the epidemic. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Dec 31 16:59:26 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 31 16:40:31 2011. Because Hispanic isn't a race. When you complete a census you fill in Hispanic or non-Hispanic and then fill in your race. In LA about half of Mexicans choose white and half choose other. Not sure about other Hispanics. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Dec 31 17:01:50 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 31 13:08:10 2011. The town of Babylon is suing the US Postal service because they want to surround their Wyandanch Facility with Barbed wire on the outside and install bulletproof partitions on the inside. If the people of Amityville, Brentwood, Wyandanch and North Bay Shore want to accept this quality of life, I say a pox on all their houses. When it crosses my border then the fight is on. |
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Re: Kids go sledding, ice skating in Brentwood |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 31 17:04:19 2011, in response to Re: Kids go sledding, ice skating in Brentwood, posted by Easy on Sat Dec 31 14:40:58 2011. IAWTLOL |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 31 17:06:40 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by Easy on Sat Dec 31 16:59:26 2011. Interesting, aren't most Mexicans technically more Native American than anything though? |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Dec 31 17:11:38 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 31 17:06:40 2011. They are a spectrum with some nearly all white (not the ones coming here illegally for the most part) and some all Amerind, but on average I'd say that most are more white. George Lopez for example is mostly white based on DNA testing. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 31 17:26:49 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by Easy on Sat Dec 31 17:11:38 2011. Interesting, most South American Hispanics in New York look more Native American, while Caribbean Hispanics look white with maybe a little bit of black in some. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 18:38:08 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 31 16:53:52 2011. I think it may have fallen way earlier than that, already by the 60's, but yes, it was much worse in the 80's. |
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Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 31 18:39:39 2011, in response to Re: n. Amityville: 2 Teens Shot At Party(Re: The New Brentwood Thread), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 31 13:16:34 2011. No, NORTH Amityville is. South Amityville, the Village of Amityville is quite beautiful, and well to do. |
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Re: The New Brentwood Thread |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Dec 31 19:34:40 2011, in response to The New Brentwood Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 21 16:33:18 2011. North Amityville = Brentwood westBill Newkirk |
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Missing Brentwood driver, 84, found in Kent |
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Posted by DAnd124 on Sat Dec 31 22:34:37 2011, in response to The New Brentwood Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 21 16:33:18 2011. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-16373513An 84-year-old man who left his Essex home in his car, sparking police concern that he could have travelled up to 180 miles, has been found in Kent. Police believed Leonard Gilbert was probably confused, had no access to money and could have used half a tank of petrol after leaving Hartswood Road in Brentwood earlier. They described the matter as urgent and said Mr Gilbert could be at risk. Shortly after 14:00 GMT, police said Mr Gilbert had been found safe and well. Police said they were alerted when Mr Gilbert called in at a shop in north Kent. Brentwood is about 25 miles from the county border, via the Dartford crossing. |
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Re: The New Brentwood Thread |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 1 08:41:56 2012, in response to Re: The New Brentwood Thread, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Dec 31 19:34:40 2011. EXACTLY. |
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Brentwood Boulevard Repaving: Not Until 2015? |
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Posted by DAnd124 on Mon Jan 2 00:29:12 2012, in response to The New Brentwood Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 21 16:33:18 2011. http://maplewood-brentwood.patch.com/articles/brentwood-boulevard-repaving-2012-or-2015-2b96ce8eDid St. Louis County promise the city of Brentwood it would repave Brentwood Boulevard when the Highway 64-40 project was finished? Two years after the completion of the Highway 40 reconstruction project that used Brentwood Boulevard as a detour, public officials in Brentwood and the county have different opinions on that question. Ward 4 Alderman Tom Kramer said Brentwood Boulevard took a beating during the time it was a detour, and is in bad enough condition to be repaved in 2012, but it’s not scheduled until 2015. He said then-director of public works for St. Louis County, Garry Earls, “notified/asked” the city if it could be used as a detour. “Mayor Kelly, with the affirmation of the board of aldermen, spoke for the city in negotiating a return of Brentwood Boulevard to as good or better condition than when The New I-64 started,” Kramer said. The June 19, 2006, Brentwood Board of Aldermen meeting minutes, supplied to Patch by Kramer, reads: Mayor Kelly stated that he communicated to Mr. Earl, representing the City, that under the idea of helping the project move along and understanding that people will be inconvenienced during that process, if they have to make some adjustments they will be willing to do that. That if they went ahead with the restriping they would want a written guarantee that as soon as the Highway 40 project is completed, they will resurface the roadway and restripe it back to its current lanes. He stated that Mr. Earl agreed to that. "Only with the confidence of our blessing, that they would re-stripe the roadway on the southbound lanes, did they decide to go forward with that," Kramer said. Earls disputes Kramer's claims. “I made no such promise,” Earls said in an email to Patch. David Wrone, public information manager for the county highway department, said he’d be interested in seeing documentation from the city of Brentwood to verify its insistence that such a pledge was made. “St. Louis County has never made such a promise, either orally or in writing,” Wrone wrote in an email to Patch. The county's traffic department is responsible for salting, plowing and paving Brentwood Boulevard. The road was given a micro-surface asphalt coating and restriped to add an extra southbound lane between Highway 40 to Manchester Road to be a detour during the second phase of the highway project in 2009. Earls said smaller roads the county took over from municipalities during the work, for detours, such as Clayton Road in Ladue and the east half of McKnight Road in Brentwood were repaved. County arterials, though, such as Brentwood Boulevard, aren't treated the same. Arterials are repaved on a “worst–first” basis. They are graded on a 1-10 scale, with 1 being the worst. Brentwood Boulevard is a 5.3, according to the county Highways and Traffic department. Sheryl Hodges, the department's current director, said the road’s problems are aesthetic rather than structural. She said the county will get to Brentwood in its turn, or when the resources are available. One possible source of funds for repaving could have been available before 2015, but didn't pan out. Brentwood Mayor Pat Kelly chairs the Hanley Road Corridor Transportation Development District (TDD) Board, which includes Brentwood Boulevard. It had looked like an extra $500,000 in the fund might have gone toward repaving the road, but at the Dec. 21 meeting of the board, representatives of the law firm Gilmore & Bell stated that Brentwood Boulevard was never eligible to receive the funds. If St. Louis County finds additional funding to repave Brentwood Boulevard, it could happen sooner than 2015, Wrone said. Not all Brentwood residents, or businesses, may want a big road construction project in 2012 though. Clockmaster clock- and watch-maker Michael Grayson said people can get to the shop from many different directions, but he still worries about traffic tie-ups discouraging business traffic. He said he’d lean toward the work being done in 2015. Frank Papa, owner of Frank Papa’s Ristorante, listed off Brentwood Boulevard improvements he said have happened since 2007 and said it hasn’t been a fun five years. “Let businesses get established, then fix it again,” he said. “The road needs to be maintained, but don’t ruin the businesses at hand. As a business person, 2015 would be OK with me.” |
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