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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 00:19:50 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Oct 8 21:30:27 2015. Secret sauce for you here. If anything goes the least bit whoopsie from the remaining entrails of the previous versions, hold down the left shift key (below caps lock) as soon as you hear the chime at startup. Keep holding it down until the Apple logo appears and then let go.This will put you into "safe boot" which will take about 5-6 times as long to load as normal. Once that bar finally gets to the other end, you should see "SAFE BOOT" in red letters on the upper right of the screen. Since it doesn't load the normal video driver in this mode, you might also see some amusing "artifacts" all over your screen. Worry not about that. Once it finally comes up, sign in and then shut down. Then restart normally. You will be impressed as all the former cruft gets removed and cleaned up, tightened up and it'll be like a shiny new Mac. You're welcome. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 00:20:49 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 8 21:31:17 2015. The new ipad pro that comes out in a couple of days will do that too. :) |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 01:21:11 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 8 23:59:28 2015. There's more threats than directly pwning the hardware.If I access my fluffy cloud data over wifi and someone snags a copy, that's a major problem. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 01:24:15 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 01:21:11 2015. Yep ... in google land, that download would be in clear text and if intercepted (look up something called "wireshark") then yep. Only difference is that on OUR stuff, if you're talking to the cloud, every lat bit of data is triply encrypted and the only thing that can render it into plain text is inside the app in your very own device. Can't be cloned.Have you ever wondered why NSA and law enforcement has been *SO* pissed at Apple lately? Well ... there ya are. If the spooks can't snatch it out of the air, do you really think Terrapin can? :) |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 01:35:16 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 00:04:48 2015. If you link the code from the old snow leopard version with the latest libraries (there's plenty of deliberate retro in KNOS because I prefer the style) and compile it, then you really could do that. You'd just need all the pieces and would have to modify the makefile to link up the stuff you wanted.But I can't because Finder is proprietary along with large swaths of the system. Which is also the reason I can't get Rosetta working in any version of OSX later than Snow Leopard. Got any answers for that? Hell, if I could remove the backdoors and Icloudery from the latest OSX and then get Rosetta working and Finder back to normal, I'd buy a new Macbook Pro iOS? A good amount of it is ... download XCODE and it's in there. Right, which is why it's a completely locked down DRM-constrained malware-riddled mess. If your definition of "open source" though is "I ain't paying a penny" then looks like Stallman is about as good as it gets. I was thinking more along the lines of "I get to know and control what it does." You know, free as in speech rather than beer and all that, rather than having to take SelkirkTMO's word or Tim Cook's word that there's nothing nasty in it. Basically, the exact opposite of Apple's corporate philosophy that they know what I want better than I do. Although by the way— you said Apple released source code as early as 2000. Can you link to the source for OS 9? The people who develop Sheepshaver were hoping to get their hands on that. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 01:36:38 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 00:05:58 2015. Did you miss the part about duct-taping my cell phone to the front bonnet of an R46?I will be getting my cab vid whether they want it or not... now I just need to convince it to pull in on the correct track at Far Rock. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 01:38:17 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 00:08:27 2015. Samsung? No way.First I hoped the Ubuntu phones would pan out. Now I'm hoping the Jolla phones get somewhere. Until then, I'll be whining at Motorola until they release a patch for Stagefright. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 01:39:45 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 00:06:47 2015. From 2005? What, you mean 320 x 240 at 10 fps? The camera I borrowed from Terrapin managed something like that.Mine is an SLR from 2007 which definitely doesn't take videos. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 01:43:56 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 01:35:16 2015. Dewd ... your problems could ALL be solved if you were to get you a proper emulator and the machine image to run that old G4 stuff. There ARE 68K VM's out there, yaknow ... and as far as your tinfoil there, I hope you know what my own background was before coming to Apple. I still have an FBI file larger than yours. :)My specialty has been privacy and security and I wouldn't BE there if I couldn't see what was behind all the curtains. And as anyone who works here can tell you, Apple is bigger on secrecy than the NSA. I work in a specialty involving security there, I work with icloud code on an almost daily basis as well as many other areas where the guidance of someone who lived in Windows world and seeing that the hosers who spent better than 30 years now breaking in is one of the reasons why this "old fool" collects a nice check for rolling out of bed and working 20 feet away from my bed. As far as the tinfoil goes, the ONLY way anybody's going to get anything out of our stuff in the past two years, they're going to have to beat the owner of the phone to give up their passcode, their Apple ID, their password (and if they went for two factor authentication) the "security code that just beeped on ANOTHER "trusted device" in order to get at anything. Tim himself summed it up in that link I sent you to the other day, "If law enforcement wants any details, they're going to have to get it out of the user - we don't HAVE it." As to OS9, long before I came there, I can only account for what we've been doing lately. Steve was a douchebag. Haven't you seen any of the bullshit movies yet? (grin) |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 01:54:48 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 01:43:56 2015. Dewd ... your problems could ALL be solved if you were to get you a proper emulator and the machine image to run that old G4 stuff.PearPC isn't really usable. Sheepshaver is unstable and doesn't support Quickdraw or OS 9.1 and later. Running Snow Leopard in a virtual machine is cumbersome since the VM is never properly integrated with the host machine. At the moment, having a G4 that can run my PowerPC-native stuff works better than any other solution I've found and that it can also boot into OS9 to run my old games is sort of a plus. Though why can't Rosetta work in later versions of OSX if it's as open as you claim? There ARE 68K VM's out there, yaknow... Sorry, the stuff I use is a bit later than 68K. As far as the tinfoil goes, the ONLY way anybody's going to get anything out of our stuff in the past two years, they're going to have to beat the owner of the phone to give up their passcode, their Apple ID, their password (and if they went for two factor authentication) the "security code that just beeped on ANOTHER "trusted device" in order to get at anything. And is this a contract offer from Apple? If I take you at your word, what compensation will Apple give me if the devices don't live up to the hype? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 01:54:53 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 01:35:16 2015. By the way ... if Rosetta is your boggle, there's a really simple solution. You could run 10.6.8 SnowLeopard in a Virtual Machine, for example with VMware or Parallels. All you need is a SnowLeopard DVD to install there and you're back in business.Even VirtualBox (free software as you like, but it's from LeisureBoat Larry from Oracle, beware of corporations offering free gifts) can run that. I run it on my Toshiba under KNOS. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 01:59:38 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 01:54:53 2015. You could run 10.6.8 SnowLeopard in a Virtual Machine, for example with VMware or Parallels. All you need is a SnowLeopard DVD to install there and you're back in business.Actually, Snow Leopard refuses to install and run in a VM unless you pay for the "server version" or hack it to break the DRM. In any case, using a VM for half my work is cumbersome when the other half is on the host machine. Integration between the VM and host is always fiddly and annoying. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 02:00:24 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 01:36:38 2015. I miss a lot of stuff here very often, which is why I look for one-liners for most posts and don't read all that many. Between my "real job" and KNOS, there isn't a whole lot of time to screw around.And yeah, I've always been an advocate of strapping a camera right under the wiper there on top of the cab window and charging foamers for a "birds-eye-view" on the big screen inside. And I *know* enough would pay for that to make it worthwhile. :) I've worked the cab. Different angle of view, far more boring when you see the same damned stations four time a day or more. (grin) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 02:03:20 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 01:38:17 2015. El-oh-fucking-el! Ubuntu is far and away the worst thing that ever happened to Linux than even RedHat. Motorola is google now, don't waste your breath. And seriously, I may work for Apple and all but they're not at all lately like you were sold in the "Steve had another tantrum" days. Gates and Jobs were clearly twins, black guy fighting white guy in the cloud episode of old Star Trek. I'm serious there.Under Tim, it's VERY different there now. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 02:05:07 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 01:39:45 2015. Yep ... though the one I had was high end. Been ages since I've used it, but it was something like 4 megapixels and would output video at 30 FPS as AVI files. You'd run it out in less than a minute but it took the old fashioned big SD cards up to 4GB. Any more and it shit the bed. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 02:07:17 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 02:00:24 2015. Four times a day?You worked there in the 70s. I refuse to believe you managed to make four trips over the same route without getting diverted due to derailment/riot/emergency maintenance to wrap more tape around the rail that the TeeYay couldn't afford to replace. Due to a rail condition, the next stop on this RR train will be Woodside. Please stand away from the edges of the car... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 02:09:04 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 02:05:07 2015. In fairness, back in those days Utube wouldn't let you upload more than a minute or two anyway of your stupid cat rolling on its back video. Historical fact: The internet was created for cat videos and is still powered by pussy even today. (grin) |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 02:10:50 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 02:03:20 2015. Ubuntu is far and away the worst thing that ever happened to Linux than even RedHat.But compared to Anne Droid and EyeOhEss... Motorola is google now, don't waste your breath. THEN HOW COME I DON'T HAVE A STAGEFRIGHT PATCH??! And seriously, I may work for Apple and all but they're not at all lately like you were sold in the "Steve had another tantrum" days. Oh really? Last I heard, Steve was still running the company— Tim is just the medium who relays his dictates to the world of the living. Under Tim, it's VERY different there now. Not so's anyone's noticed. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 02:12:51 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 01:54:48 2015. Because all of that old code made for serious dents in performance. Trying to drop through code to determine what CPU it wants cut performance in half. The translations from Motorola CPU's to Intel instruction functions cut it down by better than 600%. Supporting the old CPU's caused OS X to turn to taffy.It HAD to go. The last set of former Motorola CPU instructions to keep it went away in Lion. We REALLY had to. :( |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 02:20:06 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 02:12:51 2015. Because all of that old code made for serious dents in performance.Snow Leopard runs faster than any later system. Trying to drop through code to determine what CPU it wants cut performance in half. Wait what? The translations from Motorola CPU's to Intel instruction functions cut it down by better than 600%. Supporting the old CPU's caused OS X to turn to taffy. Emulation is always high overhead, but Rosetta worked very well. I'm pretty sure my newest (read: still supported) Mac is faster when booted into Snow Leopard and running a PowerPC program than when it's booted into Yosemite and running a newer replacement to same. In actuality, running PowerPC programs actually seems smoother than running Windows programs in Wineskin. Of course, Rosetta is not quite as good as the 68K emulator they wrote for the first PowerPC systems. Considering that my first Power Mac had to emulate half its operating system, it had to be pretty impressive. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 02:21:49 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 01:59:38 2015. I've had great luck with VirtualBox in KNOS, pretty snappy. As to the snowleo there, google for "Niresh" and "iATKOS". You're welcome. "Teh Steve" flipped out over Hackintoshes, and our later stuff depends on (cannot disclose) special features in our chipsets to allow offloading of functions to our own designs of caches in the CPU's. So that "DRM" you refer to isn't actually a restriction, it's just that most commodity CPU's can't even answer the call to begin with. We design and build our own stuff, that's why the same CPU we have can run faster under all that Unix code than the stock shit that Dell sells.Some others though have patched it up rather nicely for VM use. Go get some. Tim doesn't give a shit. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 02:25:01 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 02:07:17 2015. Please tell me that you haven't developed a sever dose of turtlecopia there, bro.I said, "same damned stations" ... if you're doing two trips, then you're going to stop there twice northbound, and twice southbound unless the teeyay quack demanded that you came down for a piss test. Do the math. You're welcome. :) And yeah, back then it was "Join TWU and see the WORLD." Heh |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 02:26:49 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 02:10:50 2015. You might want to ask your carrier and google about that stagefright. Maybe it's shy. :)And man oh man ... if you were really paying attention to anyone even remotely competent, you would know that Carl Icahn is running the company. (grin) |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 02:27:45 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 02:25:01 2015. Now who's lost his sense of whimsy? :DI said, "same damned stations" ... if you're doing two trips, then you're going to stop there twice northbound, and twice southbound Sorry, you mentioned something about angle of view. A northbound and southbound trip don't afford the same angle for each station. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 02:34:24 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 02:21:49 2015. As to the snowleo there, google for "Niresh" and "iATKOS".Tim doesn't give a shit. :) Shall I take this as written permission from Apple to build a Hackintosh? So that "DRM" you refer to isn't actually a restriction, it's just that most commodity CPU's can't even answer the call to begin with. Yeah, no. It's DRM. Apple encrypted vital chunks of the system so they can't be used without a proprietary kext which is imaginatively named "Don't Steal Mac OS X.kext" and includes a little ditty about how using OSX for anything Cupertino didn't explicitly authorise is "stealing" their hard work even though you paid for it. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 02:36:20 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 02:20:06 2015. Heh. You seem intent on arguing with me over so many things that are old hat. Well ... if you're running on old hardware, and not paying your "length of applecare" and paying tribute every three years, then anything new will run like dogshit. New CPU's, more memory (most important thing) and new hardware means new features and expanded options. That's just how it works. Keep your old shit and expect new features, here you go but it's going to run slower on it because there's more code now. THIW.And yeah, Yosemite was the worst pile of dogshit we ever released. IF you can do El Capitan, seriously ... do it! First release I've been proud of in a LONG time. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 02:37:39 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 02:26:49 2015. You might want to ask your carrier and google about that stagefright. Maybe it's shy. :)Maybe they loaded the phone with bullshit from Southwestern Bell installed as system apps and so the patch that went out to Nexus phones ages ago needs to be specially reformulated. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 02:39:47 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 02:34:24 2015. Heh. Yeah ... sure. :)When was the last time Apple's lawyers bit anybody's leg? Based on the stories you keep popping up with, there'd still be "open sores" folks whining about their blue binder inviting them to meet the judge. Seen any lately? And about "Don't Steal Mac OS X.kext" ... file date please? And yeah, reading the "terms and conditions" and hitting that "Agree" button before you've read it CAN get amusing. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 02:41:45 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 02:27:45 2015. Yeah, you get to see the signals reflecting off the right rail right into your eyes so you can see that red around the corner before you hit it. And the fresnel lenses make sure that in the cab, every signal is SO bright that you feel like taking your right hand off the brake handle to cover your eyes.Absolutely people should have a true motorman's eye view just to see how annoying the gig really is. :) |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 02:45:38 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 02:36:20 2015. Keep your old shit and expect new features...Come on, I've been posting at length about how I'm trying to keep old features on my new shit. Honestly, if a computer costs more than $1,000 then I expect it to last more than 3 years. The G4 was something like 12 years old when I had to finally bite the bullet and replace it. The Macbook is 7 years old and still perfectly functional (although it could use a new battery). The Mac Pro is 3 years old now and if I have to replace it soon I will be seriously cheesed. IF you can do El Capitan, seriously ... do it! First release I've been proud of in a LONG time. Can I install Rosetta on it? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 02:45:51 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 02:37:39 2015. And THAT is the major issue with googlephones. You expect the carrier to update your phone with gigs of data that YOU are not going to be paying for. Are you appreciating the downside of android yet? We push our updates out over wifi or through itunes, and completely bypass the carriers who are not only not going to give you that free lunch, but are going to charge you for it. And the ONLY way to get that update is from your carrier IF they feel like letting you have it.Diss Apple all you want, we're not google. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 02:47:53 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 02:39:47 2015. And about "Don't Steal Mac OS X.kext" ... file date please?The what now? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 02:53:20 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 02:45:38 2015. Yep ... that's all changed. Buy ANYBODY's "new computer" and try to get more than 2-3 years out of the shit that China is peddling these days. We're still supporting Macs back to around 2009 or so with updates. Windows anyone? :)As to Rosetta, last stop on that train was Snow Leopard. You'll need to run THAT in an emulator, or just boot camp SL onto your HD. It'll work. It really runs better in VMware or VirtualBox though which can fake a Moto CPU. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 02:54:23 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 02:47:53 2015. Date of the file you found. Every file in unix has a date and time stamp. I've never seen that one. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 02:57:25 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 02:45:51 2015. You expect the carrier to update your phone with gigs of data that YOU are not going to be paying for.Actually, I "expect" that they not install their bullshit on my phone in the first place. Yet they do anyway... Are you appreciating the downside of android yet? That carriers install bloatware isn't a downside of Android per se. There are plenty of bloatware-free versions like Replicant and Cyanogen. Yes, I'd have to root my phone and unlock the bootloader to install them, but at least that's easier to do than if I had an EyePhone. By the way, where are the modified versions of iOS? If it were as open source as you say, it should have sprouted a couple by now. We push our updates out over wifi or through itunes, and completely bypass the carriers who are not only not going to give you that free lunch, but are going to charge you for it. Google does the same via Play Store for the proprietary components they control. The problem is that while the core of Android is open source, most "Android" phones actually use a proprietary fork laden with carrier and manufacturer bloatware so that if a problem is found in the original open source code it takes forever for the patch to filter down. Nexus phones get updated just as well as Apple's do— and if iOS was truly open source and a bunch of other companies made phones running iOS variants, those phones would have the same restrictions on updates that the Samsungs and Motorolas do. Diss Apple all you want, we're not google. Dissing one does not preclude dissing the other. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 03:05:43 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 02:53:20 2015. We're still supporting Macs back to around 2009 or so with updates. Windows anyone? :)Microsoft supported XP until last year. Vista came out in 2007 and Microsoft plans to support it for another few years. So if I bought a Windoze PC in 2001, which never managed to run Vista, it'd be kept updated for 13 years. If it could run Vista, it'd be supported for 14 years and counting. A Mac, on the other hand, would have received its final update whenever Leopard lost support. Definitely before 2010. As to Rosetta, last stop on that train was Snow Leopard. If the system is as open source as you say, why can't I add it back to Yosemite? You'll need to run THAT in an emulator, or just boot camp SL onto your HD. It takes some doing to get SL working on any Mac that shipped with Lion or later. It really runs better in VMware or VirtualBox though which can fake a Moto CPU. Neither can emulate a PowerPC, and Snow Leopard wouldn't run on one anyway. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 03:09:23 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 02:54:23 2015. Says: Created Wednesday, November 4, 2009.Mind you, that's the one in Snow Leopard. I'm in bed on the laptop now and getting up to boot the Mac Pro would wake me up again so you'll have to wait until a more reasonable hour if you want me to look at that one. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 03:10:14 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 02:57:25 2015. Heh. Dewd ... I really GOTTA finish my code for KNOS here so I can get to bed for the morning and doing my sidewalk act in the orchard.We don't really disagree here, what IS available is available, but it strikes me as though nobody seems willing to pay for the subscription to have any access to the latest, rather than the old shit that's out there from the lulzboat crowd. Apple releases everything we can as open source, all that's legally allowed under our contracts with proprietary provides really IS out there. If it's not, then don't blame us - there was a non-disclosure which prevented us from doing so. Linux has all the open source on the planet ... that's ... available as well. If it doesn't fit, then you have to pay homage to the patent holders, and that's gonna cost you. Instead of pissing at me, you might want to get after some of the stupid patent and copyright laws (which are only getting worse with each passing day) that make all that so. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 03:15:20 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 03:10:14 2015. Instead of pissing at me, you might want to get after some of the stupid patent and copyright laws...So who was the genius who allowed software patents? Hey, I discovered my Macbook makes a decent hat! I hereby patent the idea of using electronics as clothing! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 03:17:44 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 03:05:43 2015. Dewd ... I can't do anything about that. All I can tell you is that Snow Leopard and Leopard run just fine in VirtualBox 4.3.20SE in KNOS. Whilst I don't have anything that requires Rosetta and have never tried it, everything else works find here on a non-fruit. Toshiba laptops (crappy little shits) work just fine here.As to Apple's policies of the past, I signed up there in the summer of 2013. Haven't seen any of what you're reporting. Can't tell one way or another that it's real, but Apple met a number of my requirements for accepting their offer to come on board with them back then. And so far, not one of my own moral values has been compromised. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 03:18:46 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 03:09:23 2015. No worries ... Steve was still with us then. That might explain it. 'night! :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 03:20:19 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 03:15:20 2015. Fuck that ... Microsoft got a patent for consecutive numbers on the bottom right of the printed page. :)Look to a certain political party that I keep getting spanked for mentioning. 1980's somewhere. (grin) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 03:41:49 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 03:05:43 2015. One more that will hopefully help ...http://www.thefreecountry.com/emulators/macintosh.shtml That's about all there is. FWIW, FreeBSD runs on 68k's still. There would have been a version of KNOS for it if only we had one of those antiques to code on. |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Oct 9 07:56:04 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 00:15:05 2015. ROTFLMAO! |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Oct 9 07:58:21 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 8 22:19:10 2015. What make/model do you have? |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Oct 9 07:59:17 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 01:39:45 2015. Ah, a SLR. Stills only. DSLR's do video. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 9 08:12:48 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 02:45:38 2015. Don't you claim to have a job? Shouldn't you then be able to afford a new laptop? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 9 08:14:56 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 9 01:39:45 2015. You claim to have a job. Buy a DSLR w/video recording. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Oct 9 14:37:28 2015, in response to I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by TonyG on Mon Oct 5 01:20:33 2015. I'm glad you said Iphone and not an iMac or whatever. Apples are for people who don't know anything about computers nowadays versus a long time ago. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 19 12:38:01 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 9 08:12:48 2015. Don't you claim to have a job? Shouldn't you then be able to afford a new laptop?Read the whole thread before posting, dumbass. At least read the post you are responding to. |
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