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Re: Pedestrians aren't the only ones who matter.

Posted by fdtutf on Tue Jan 10 12:31:12 2017, in response to Re: Pedestrians aren't the only ones who matter., posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Jan 10 11:30:07 2017.

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My numbers are not fake. DOT stated there are 33,000 daily bus riders in the corridor. Traffic counts show between 30,000 and 50,000 motor vehicles crossing all major intersections. If we assume every car from Rockaway rides all the way to Queens Blvd, and no other cars use the roadway at all, certainly an impossibility, there already would be the same numbers of people riding buses as in cars. Assuming, that those traveling from Rockway account for half the roadway users, then there are 100,000 daily motor vehicle uses (assuming each car carries only one passenger which we also know is not true) there are already three people using cars to each bus rider.

Most likely the ratio of those in cars and trucks and motorcycles to the number in buses are even greater than three to one, perhaps four or five to one, if there are 150,000 daily users in motor vehicles excluding buses. For that to be true there only would have to be a turnover of three fold, not hard to imagine considering cars that may use Woodhaven only for a few blocks. It is perfectly logical to include them since the 33,000 daily bus riders includes riders who may be traveling only a half mile.


Since the level of inconvenience involved is related to the distance and time spent on the street, what we really need is passenger-mile figures.

Somebody who only drives on Woodhaven for a few blocks should not count for just as much as someone who takes the bus half the length of the corridor (theoretically speaking, of course), and it's dishonest of you to blithely assert that they should.

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