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Re: Pedestrians aren't the only ones who matter.

Posted by R30A on Fri Jan 13 21:22:41 2017, in response to Re: Pedestrians aren't the only ones who matter., posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jan 13 17:20:20 2017.

You have proved that you aren't capable of answering a single question directly if pedestrians and bus riders are all that matter. That is what I asked you
How does whether pedestrians and bus riders being all that matters with regards to him being able to answer a single question? Regardless of whether pedestrians and bus riders are all that matter, I have seen him answer questions, both singular and in multiple, so I must admit to being slightly confused here as to why that means pedestrians and bus riders don't matter.

You also have alleged that it s possible that the numbers riding buses could be the same as the numbers in cars. THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE because there are only 33,000 daily bus riders and every cordon count shows vehicles numbering between over 30,000 and 60,000. So even if every car rides the entire length of Woodhaven and Cross Bay (a total impossibility because we know there is turnover), THERE WOULD STILL BE AT LEAST TWICE AS MANY AUTO USERS AS THERE ARE BUS RIDERS.
Not if cars tend to make multiple trips moreso than bus riders... But he isn't saying that is the case. He is just saying you can make any set of assumptions and ram your case through with it- That does not mean that there is anything backing up your claim.

The only way the numbers could be equal is if at least half the cars are driverless and carry no passengers. Do you want to make that argument because I am listening?
But he isn't making that argument. He is making the argument that you don't, much like he doesn't, have any relevant data.

YOU ARE CORRECT THAT YOU HAVE PROVED NOTHING. I have made reasonable case scenarios. It perfectly follows from the data we have that the people in cars could represent as much as 80 percent of motor vehicle usage on Woodhaven if the turnover is threefold. A perfectly logical assumption given the 14 mile length. There is about a 50 percent turnover at the Belt Parkway and another complete turnover between that point and Metropolitan, most probably. Anyone who uses the roadway regularly could tell you that.
So in the end, even if we take your assumptions as fact, installing bus lanes on Woodhaven would likely be an equitable use of space.


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