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Re: Pedestrians aren't the only ones who matter.

Posted by fdtutf on Wed Jan 11 13:42:44 2017, in response to Re: Pedestrians aren't the only ones who matter., posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jan 11 11:39:25 2017.

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I never asserted that they should.

Of course you did, by counting up all the automobile users, no matter how long they stay on the street, and weighing them against all the bus users, no matter how long they stay on the street. By not adjusting for levels of individual usage, you're implying that all users count equally regardless of usage.

I agree that someone who uses the road for a few blocks should not be considered the same like someone who uses the road for a long distance.

Then stop doing it.

By the same token, someone taking the bus for just a few blocks should not be considered the same as someone traveling from Rockaway to Queens Blvd.

Correct: What we really need are passenger-mile figures for both modes.

Having said all that, the numbers of people in cars still greatly outweigh the numbers in buses in this corridor like at least four to one.

And you're right back to ignoring levels of usage.

So one minute lost or gained by a bus passenger equals about four minutes gained or lost by someone in a car when measuring total trip time. So if this plan causes the average bus passenger to save ten minutes but the average car to lose two minutes, you haven't improved anything.

Of course you have: You've improved bus service.

What you meant to say is that there is no net improvement across all modes. And the numbers you gave (ten minutes vs. two) assume five times as many automobile users as bus users, which I think is unlikely.

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