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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 28 08:18:00 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 28 08:17:08 2006.

The eastbound trolley ROW is the "upper-outer" roadway...

Whoops; I meant lower-outer.

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by David of Broadway on Fri Jul 28 08:38:34 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by J trainloco on Fri Jul 28 02:26:44 2006.

Nobody's talking about an airplane.

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Re: oops. the full post. (Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by David of Broadway on Fri Jul 28 08:40:49 2006, in response to Re: oops. the full post. (Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by J trainloco on Fri Jul 28 02:21:06 2006.

Good post.

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by David of Broadway on Fri Jul 28 08:45:42 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by NIMBYkiller on Thu Jul 27 22:53:00 2006.

Is this a problem in search of a solution or a solution in search of a problem?

What are the problems with the Q60, how would your proposed solution solve them, and what new problems would it cause?

You've addressed the first question in remarkably little detail. (Sure, it's crowded. But where? And why? And does it remain crowded with the same people for long distances or is there rapid turnover?) You haven't even touched the other two questions.

Once we've gotten through those questions, we can embark on a cost-benefit analysis.

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by David of Broadway on Fri Jul 28 08:49:20 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by J trainloco on Fri Jul 28 01:51:49 2006.

Sounds familiar. I once confronted the bus dispatcher at Sheepshead Bay, asking him why he sent out an empty B49 as a train was pulling in. He said the bus was already late and the next bus would be arriving in under four minutes. I corrected him: the next bus was scheduled to arrive in under four minutes.

Fifteen minutes later, four buses turned the corner.

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by David of Broadway on Fri Jul 28 08:51:44 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Fri Jul 28 02:21:10 2006.

Interesting. Probably because it just won't fit in that space.

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jul 28 09:44:24 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by bill west on Fri Jul 28 01:51:36 2006.

Good work, Mr. West! Did Artemus help you? :0)

Nice website - I've bookmarked it.

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jul 28 09:46:08 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by David of Broadway on Fri Jul 28 08:49:20 2006.

Still better than trying to use a bus that runs every half hour and is running late...

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by David of Broadway on Fri Jul 28 09:52:26 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jul 28 09:46:08 2006.

Maybe you're not aware of how crowded this bus can get. No, I don't mean that most of the seats are filled, like that "crowded" W train.

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jul 28 09:56:45 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by David of Broadway on Fri Jul 28 09:52:26 2006.

I'm very much aware of how crowded that bus can get. You're still spoiled over there. Advocate for more frequent buses, but at the same time count your blessings.

Look up "The Joe" (Johnson County KS transit) which is a county just across the state line from me, and admire the schedule...you could put four bus lines onto one page and save paper...

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 28 10:00:45 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jul 28 09:56:45 2006.

I'm very much aware of how crowded that bus can get.

No you're not.

You're still spoiled over there.

No he's not. And this is PROFF for my first comment above.

Advocate for more frequent buses, but at the same time count your blessings.

He doesn't need more frequent buses. From reading his previous posts, which you obviously have not done, he needs the buses to follow the existing schedule, maybe with some minor tweaks.

It is obvious that you know very little about transit planning or even about following and understanding a conversation on a message board. I don't know why you even try. Oh wait, I do know: you're Dr. Ron M. Aryel of Kansas City, a fscking god.

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 28 10:19:24 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by David of Broadway on Thu Jul 27 21:56:26 2006.

The subway USUALLY only does that for the terminals.

As I said, usually.

Anyway...

Sheepshead Bay? Forest Hills? Jackson Heights? Marble Hill? Briarwood? Jamaica(-Van Wyck)? East New York (now retired)? Howard Beach?

Isn't "Forest Hills" a terminal station?

Jackson Heights is an old remnant from the IND days, as is East New York, and Howard Beach dates to that station on the LIRR.

Jamaica-Van Wyck? I have no idea why it's called that. Must have been some lapse of judgement in the 1980's. That's not even really Jamaica over there, if anything, it's on the extreme fringes.
Briarwood? Another lapse in judgement because they were foolish enough to call the next station by a similar name.





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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 28 10:24:58 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by David of Broadway on Thu Jul 27 23:12:06 2006.

(Hmmm, I may have to take that back. Is Parsons/Archer official? But that's the only exception I can think of.)


Yeah, and think of the date those two stations opened....the SAME date, so it's definitely possible. Not to mention, there's no reason that station should be called Jamaica to begin with, it's NOT really the center of Jamaica, if anything, the extreme fringes. Furthermore, it's quite confusing I think, considering the next stop IS the LIRR Jamaica station at Sutphin (and THAT isn't even in the heart of Jamaica). That Jamaica-Van Wyck station more than likely refers to Jamaica Ave-Van Wyck Expressway, Just as Parsons/Archer fefers to Parsons Blvd-Archer Ave.

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jul 28 10:25:43 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 28 10:19:24 2006.

"Isn't "Forest Hills" a terminal station?"
Cathode or anode? :0)


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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 28 10:27:26 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by RonInBayside on Thu Jul 27 23:43:10 2006.

Yes, I agree with that. Briarwood was ONLY added because they foolishly named the new Archer extention station "Jamaica-Van Wyck".

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jul 28 10:29:35 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 28 10:27:26 2006.

Jamaica-Van Wyck isn't a bad name for the new station. It does describe where it is. And one entrance is right at Jamaica Hospital.

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by David of Broadway on Fri Jul 28 10:30:09 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 28 10:19:24 2006.

True, Forest Hills is a terminal. But it's only recently that NYCT started putting neighborhood names at terminals. (But if we ignore that practice, we can add a bunch more stuff to the list -- Jamaica Center, Brighton Beach, Coney Island, Broad Channel, Canarsie.)

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 28 10:31:08 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by RonInBayside on Thu Jul 27 23:58:14 2006.

Persoonally, to go back to Brooklyn Manor which started this whold fiasco, I think more people heard of Briarwood than Brooklyn Manor.
My whole reason for bring this up (that if and when the Rockaway line would ever be resurected) is still that Brooklyn Manor should remain a dead name. For heaven's sake, just call it:

 
  Jamaica Av  
(What the hell is Brooklyn Manor?)


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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 28 10:33:55 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jul 28 10:29:35 2006.

Describes what? It's not Jamaica, or not the heart of Jamaica. The station name refers to Jamaica AVE, but at the tme of the Archer extention, they were leaving off the street suffixes, as they also did at parsons/archer.

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by David of Broadway on Fri Jul 28 10:36:04 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 28 10:33:55 2006.

But not at Sutphin!

Was Parsons/Archer the original name, or was it Jamaica Center, or was it both? (I think it was both but I'm not sure.)

Briarwood-Van Wyck should be simply called Main Street.

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 28 10:39:54 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by David of Broadway on Fri Jul 28 10:36:04 2006.

But not at Sutphin!

Yes, it makes no sense! ANd THAT station SHOULD have Jamaica in it! It Should be Jamaica Station-Sutphin Blvd.

Was Parsons/Archer the original name, or was it Jamaica Center, or was it both? (I think it was both but I'm not sure.)


It was Jamaica Center (in the plans), but by the time it opened, it had the Parsons/Archer added to it. Some of the Rollsigns at the time just said "Jamaica Center", others had the Parsons/Archer on it too, I guess depending on when the rollsigns were put in the trains.

Briarwood-Van Wyck should be simply called Main Street.


Agreed, but then you get into the whole cover the mosaics with a metal black sign problem.


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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 28 10:43:20 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 28 10:39:54 2006.

Oh, and to add, I think they added "Parson/Archer" to the Jamaica Center name so people wouldn't get confused and think that Jamaica Center was Jamaica Station. But that doesn't explain how they foolishly didn't officially add "Jamaica Station" to Sutphin Blvd at the time, and then how stupid it is that Jamaica/Van Wyck is called that.

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jul 28 10:44:27 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 28 10:33:55 2006.

OK. Jamaica Av/Van Wyck Blvd. I guess there would be plenty of room to write that...

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jul 28 10:45:56 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 28 10:43:20 2006.

I soimetimes think of Jamaica Station and Jamaica Center as one lumped together place. Jamaica Station is the Grand Central of Queens...

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 28 10:48:03 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by David of Broadway on Fri Jul 28 10:30:09 2006.

True, but aside from Jamaica Center (what even is that, that big building they built there in the 80's?), Brighton Beach, Coney Island, and Canarsie, date back to the old BMT days, and old habits die hard, so the names stay. Not to mention that all three of those are terminals. As for Broad Channel, again, that dates to the LIRR days, and the subway just kept that station and Howard Beach as the old LIRR names (as they did at Seaside, Rockaway Park, Playland, Holland, Wavecrest, Arverne, etc, but of course in the case of those on the viaduct, they also added the street name to it, and it kept both names on the stations (until very recently).

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jul 28 11:59:31 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 27 17:53:23 2006.

Not to mention, that the LIRR as a commuter operation uses neighborhood/town names.

Generally, that's true. But there are some exceptions.

Broadway
Centre Avenue
Flatbush Avenue
Glen Street
Hunterspoint Avenue
Merillon Avenue
Nostrand Avenue

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jul 28 12:03:54 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 28 10:19:24 2006.

Jamaica-Van Wyck? I have no idea why it's called that.

Maybe because it's located near the intersection of JAMAICA Avenue and the VAN WYCK Expressway?

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jul 28 12:05:51 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by NIMBYkiller on Fri Jul 28 00:50:53 2006.

LACMTA.

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 28 12:06:32 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jul 28 11:59:31 2006.

Again, as I said for the Subway, "Usually".

And most of the ones that use a street are because it's a second station in the same time, for example Glen St is in Glen Cove, and you can't have two Glen Cove stations, Merrilon Ave is in Garden City, and you can't have two Garden City stations, Centre AVe the same. Nostrand and Flatbush Ave are remnants from when that was a surface level rapid transit line run by the LIRR, with many stations. The last remaining are just that, rare exceptions.

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by The Port of Authority on Fri Jul 28 12:08:59 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jul 28 11:59:31 2006.

Nassau Boulevard

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by American Pig on Fri Jul 28 12:12:45 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jul 28 10:44:27 2006.

Why? There is no Van Wyck Blvd.

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by American Pig on Fri Jul 28 12:15:13 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jul 28 00:39:53 2006.

Yes, that would be good for you to do, but you don't do it, so you remain closed-minded.

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So I've Drawn a MAP. (R36 #9346's Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch)

Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jul 28 12:16:27 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by R36 #9346 on Tue Jul 25 14:09:04 2006.

The map is a 229K PNG file.


Notes:
1. I've nicknamed the service that operates via the QBSX, "The Rockaway Rocket," which I think adequately describes both where outside of Manhattan the service eventually winds up, and the relative speed of trains on that service.

2. The geography has been severely altered to clarify service patterns.

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by J trainloco on Fri Jul 28 12:21:38 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by David of Broadway on Fri Jul 28 08:38:34 2006.

Neither was I. I was talking about new procedures of operating trains out of Canarsie yard.

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by J trainloco on Fri Jul 28 12:26:11 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by David of Broadway on Fri Jul 28 08:49:20 2006.

heh. Typical.

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by J trainloco on Fri Jul 28 12:26:44 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jul 28 09:46:08 2006.

Most buses that run every 1/2 hour don't get very far off schedule, and when they do, they still aren't crowded.

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jul 28 12:29:59 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by American Pig on Fri Jul 28 12:12:45 2006.

Fine, expressway then.

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by mambomta on Fri Jul 28 12:30:04 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 28 10:43:20 2006.

But that doesn't explain how they foolishly didn't officially add "Jamaica Station" to Sutphin Blvd at the time

I'm not sure if they've fixed it or not, but for a while, at least one of the original backlit signs was visible on the upper level. The sign said Jamaica Station - LIRR

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by mambomta on Fri Jul 28 12:30:58 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by American Pig on Fri Jul 28 12:12:45 2006.

Why? There is no Van Wyck Blvd.

There used to be. There is still at least one street sign that says Van Wyck Blvd.

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jul 28 12:31:04 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by J trainloco on Fri Jul 28 12:26:44 2006.

I would not agree with that.

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Re: So I've Drawn a MAP. (R36 #9346's Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch)

Posted by J trainloco on Fri Jul 28 12:55:26 2006, in response to So I've Drawn a MAP. (R36 #9346's Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch), posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jul 28 12:16:27 2006.

Since your 'Rockway Rocket' service has 2 south terminals, and 2 north terminals, you could split it into 2 services.

IMO, there's not enough riders in Rockaway to justify giving that line a super express.

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by American Pig on Fri Jul 28 13:53:38 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 28 10:48:03 2006.

It refers to the center of Jamaica.

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by American Pig on Fri Jul 28 14:00:40 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 28 10:24:58 2006.

The station signs at Parsons/Archer say:

 
 Jamaica Center   
 Parsons Blvd


Archer isn't mentioned.

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 28 14:01:19 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 28 10:24:58 2006.

(Hmmm, I may have to take that back. Is Parsons/Archer official? But that's the only exception I can think of.)


Yeah, and think of the date those two stations opened....the SAME date, so it's definitely possible.


The platform signs say Jamaica Center - Parsons Boulevard

Not to mention, there's no reason that station should be called Jamaica to begin with, it's NOT really the center of Jamaica, if anything, the extreme fringes.

The station at the center of Jamaica is called Jamaica Center. The station in Jamaica at the Van Wyck Expressway is called Jamaica-Van Wyck.

Furthermore, it's quite confusing I think, considering the next stop IS the LIRR Jamaica station at Sutphin (and THAT isn't even in the heart of Jamaica).

Right, at Jamaica Station, as opposed to Jamaica Center or Jamaica - Van Wyck.

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by American Pig on Fri Jul 28 14:02:53 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 28 12:06:32 2006.

Hunterspoint Avenue isn't an exception, it's in Long Island City, can't have two Long Island City stations.

And Broadway of course isn't called Broadway anymore, it's Northern Blvd. The station is still Broadway.

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 28 14:03:19 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by David of Broadway on Thu Jul 27 23:12:06 2006.

Broad Channel is a terminal, so I omitted it.

Broad Channel is also an ex-LIRR station, mush like Aqueduct, Howard Beach, and the "sub-names" of the stations on the peninsula.

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Re: Old Train, New station

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jul 28 14:23:40 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 28 14:01:19 2006.

Isn't it cool to see a really old train in a new station that didn't exist until after the train was retired?

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 28 14:27:12 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 28 10:24:58 2006.


Jamaica/Van Wyck should really be called "Jamaica Avenue", but that name would probably confuse many into thinking a transfer to the J is available there.

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Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 28 14:32:13 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 28 10:31:08 2006.

I think more people heard of Briarwood than Brooklyn Manor.

Probably only because the subway station was renamed.


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Re: Old Train, New station

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 28 14:35:16 2006, in response to Re: Old Train, New station, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jul 28 14:23:40 2006.


Like the R9's on 63rd St or Archer Ave. That's why the 11/03 "Jamaica Center to Jamaica Center" trip is my all time favorite.

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