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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 18 03:37:17 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri May 17 09:52:07 2019. That was then, this is now. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 18 03:41:29 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 17 12:42:00 2019. If we wish to secede, then the constitution has nothing to say about it. We write a new constitution and the blue states can go and soak their heads in red ink.We are now in a state of a "Cold Civil War": Socialists vs Conservatives. The left can have its way over my dead body! So Don't Tread on me! ROARING |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 18 03:44:35 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by AlM on Fri May 17 09:19:39 2019. I don't know where you got that ide from?The federal government was and is a federation of Sovereign States. A union of states is STRONGER than individual states, but as founded financial had NOTHING to do with it. We have been in the muddle of a vast federal overreach since the Wilson administration. Somewhere it must stop. ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 18 03:50:33 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri May 17 22:42:14 2019. Apparently so.Apparently So. LION says skrew the fed and build them with local funding. The states of NY and NJ can do it on their own, all it takes is a little thought and a bond issue. Certainly there is enough money in that city for peeps to invest in municipal bonds for such work. Sell it and they will buy it! ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 18 03:57:27 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Easy on Fri May 17 13:50:13 2019. The original project is dead, they are finishing a splinter of the line between Bakersfield and Sacramento.THAT is not the project that they sold to the Fed, and it is a project that the fed is not buying. Ergo, they wqant their money back. ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 18 03:58:16 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project?, posted by Easy on Fri May 17 13:51:23 2019. What they are building is not what the fed approved.ROAR |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat May 18 04:05:37 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri May 17 22:42:14 2019. You are attempting to make an invalid comparison. The California project was already under construction, well behind schedule, billions over budget and severely cut back from its original plan when Gov. Newsome cancelled it. The governor wanted to use the federal funds for other projects. None of these circumstances exist with north river. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat May 18 04:06:24 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 18 03:57:27 2019. Truth |
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Posted by AlM on Sat May 18 04:58:31 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 18 03:44:35 2019. A union of states is STRONGER than individual states, but as founded financial had NOTHING to do with it.Wow, do you not understand why the Constitution was adopted. It was essentially about finances. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 18 05:28:27 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by AlM on Sat May 18 04:58:31 2019. Constitution says NOTHING about finances.ROARING |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat May 18 05:42:22 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 18 05:28:27 2019. That's too bad, what ever happened to United we stand , Divided we fall, are your sure about that finance thing, Broadway Lion? |
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Posted by AlM on Sat May 18 05:53:26 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 18 05:28:27 2019. I never said it did. I was talking about why it was adopted. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 18 05:56:19 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 18 05:28:27 2019. LOL! It does on a regular basis!Art. I, § 3. Art. I, § 7, cl. 1. Art. I, § 8, cl. 1. Art. I, § 8, cl. 2. Art. I, § 8, cl. 5. Art. I, § 9, cl. 4. Art. I, § 9, cl. 5. Art. I, § 9, cl. 6. Art. I, § 9, cl. 7. Art. I, § 10, cl. 1. Art. I, § 10, cl. 2. Art. I, § 10, cl. 3. Art. IV, § 3, cl. 2. Art. VI, § 1. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 18 06:04:31 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 18 05:56:19 2019. Also amend. XVI, obviously. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 18 06:18:09 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri May 17 12:48:22 2019. “To provide for the general welfare” is also a function of the federal government.This president just so happens to be doing his sworn duty in this case. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 18 06:20:38 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri May 17 22:47:09 2019. FALSE! The Packers are a capitalist enterprise with private shareholders. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sat May 18 07:14:32 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 18 06:04:31 2019. He can't hear you, too busy roaring. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat May 18 09:05:45 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat May 18 04:05:37 2019. FWIW, Newsom's staff partially "walked back" some of the headlines you all got on the national news. The local take in NorCal is more, build what is under construction, scratch heads see what can be salvaged next. "Other projects"??? not clear what you are referenciing.As to already canceled state boondoggle, that seems to describe "Gateway" as canceled by Christie. Remind me please; did Fed funding allocated to Gateway get paid back? boondoggle is of course in the eye of the beholder/taxpayer. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat May 18 09:11:48 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 18 06:20:38 2019. quoting wikipedia " is the only non-profit, community-owned major league professional sports team based in the United States." |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 18 09:36:40 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project?, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 18 03:41:29 2019. If we wish to secede, then the constitution has nothing to say about itThe word "union" is unambiguous. We are now in a state of a "Cold Civil War" Perhaps, but secession is concession. Lincoln knew that. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 18 10:32:48 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat May 18 05:42:22 2019. That's what I'd like to know |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat May 18 10:37:41 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Steamdriven on Fri May 17 08:02:39 2019. You believe that?You Win or Loose nothing here,unless it's financial. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat May 18 12:18:30 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri May 17 22:52:01 2019. That may be true, but the IRT builders did not have the advanced TBMs that are now utilized for subway construction as opposed to the manual labor needed at the turn of the 20th century. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat May 18 13:11:25 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by randyo on Sat May 18 12:18:30 2019. indeed so, but the safety regs were also much looser back then. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat May 18 18:02:38 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri May 17 12:48:22 2019. Wow.Hearing that from you brings it all home amazingly. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat May 18 20:10:20 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat May 18 09:05:45 2019. ARC was a mostly NJT project cancelled by Christie, Gateway is a different project spearheaded by Amtrak.Gateway is a more responsible use of funds (tunnels both Amtrak and NJT can use), so provided the damn thing actually gets built, Christie made the right call. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat May 18 20:44:33 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 18 06:18:09 2019. I thought that I said that. I guess that you agree? |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat May 18 22:32:46 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project?, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 18 09:36:40 2019. It's probably the only area in which the US constitution is inferior to other unions. The EU and the Soviet Union both allow(ed) for secession. This (in theory) should keep the united government in check, discouraging the disenfranchising of member states. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat May 18 22:52:20 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri May 17 08:40:53 2019. Problem is, the moment you stop sending money to the red states, is the moment potatoes become $20/lb in the grocery store. Yes, blue states also farm. No, that amount isn't nearly enough to keep prices low. Shelves will empty, and stores will raise prices to compensate. Funding red states is basically a food subsidy for all Americans.I do agree that a lot of DOD is corporate welfare (especially the F35 boondoggle). |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat May 18 22:54:17 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat May 18 13:11:25 2019. I think it's more that cut and cover was the standard construction method. Fundamentally, digging an open cut, laying some rails and electrical, and covering it over, is not a particularly dangerous or expensive undertaking.Throw in established businesses that have an interest in uninterrupted electric and gas, and suddenly subways become way more expensive. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat May 18 23:46:24 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat May 18 22:54:17 2019. still faster and cheaper. I mean, how much construction time is wasted just "commuting" from the sidewalk to the work site several stories down and back each shift. same for materials in and spoils out. Not to mention the excess costs of longer and more escalators/elevators. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat May 18 23:49:36 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat May 18 20:10:20 2019. I happen to agree w/you that the plan Christie canceled was bad. Sometimes even a broken clock... That said, did he have to return Fed funding, any? My memory says he shifted NJ money to highway pork. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat May 18 23:58:58 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat May 18 22:52:20 2019. The fresh food perspective from where I live (SF Bay Area) is a little different. Most of my veggies, fruits, dairy, are from red areas of the west coast--CA Central Valley, eastern Oregon, Washington. The chickens are from maybe 60-70 miles N of me, and other items (NZ lamb, bananas have no connection to the midwest or the "ex" Confederacy. The best corn avaiilable out here is grown in state. So, what am I missing? Corn fed midwest beef--trash, grass fed local is better. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 19 03:22:07 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project?, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat May 18 22:32:46 2019. No, that's not inferior.The USSR never allowed secession in practice. And the EUSSR shows that Article 50 is designed to punish any nation-state for daring to leave. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun May 19 04:45:10 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat May 18 22:52:20 2019. Problem is, the moment you stop sending money to the red states, is the moment potatoes become $20/lb in the grocery store.The red states that get the heavy subsidies aren't the ones that provide huge amounts of food. IA, KS, ND, SD, NE are prosperous red states that provide huge amounts of grain and don't get big (if any) federal subsidies. Vegetables mostly come from CA, and IL is also a huge provider of grain. Beef also mostly comes from blue states and prosperous red states. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 19 05:30:08 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Train Dude on Sat May 18 20:44:33 2019. I agree with you, but I’m not praising the president for doing his job. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 19 05:36:43 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project?, posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 19 03:22:07 2019. No, it's not. The UK is only being "punished" to the extent that leaving the EU is actually deleterious. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun May 19 05:37:42 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat May 18 23:58:58 2019. I live (SF Bay Area)That explains a lot! ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun May 19 05:39:59 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by AlM on Sun May 19 04:45:10 2019. And now ND is a huge energy producer.Cosw, Grains, Power and little need for massive highway infrastructure. ROARING |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 19 05:47:44 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat May 18 22:52:20 2019. No, they won't. Assuming that the potato industry were actually subsidized, then imported potatoes would simply replace apparently expensive American potatoes.Potatoes aren't the subsidized industry, it's sugar |
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Posted by AlM on Sun May 19 05:51:36 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 19 05:36:43 2019. That's possibly open to debate. One could argue (I won't, but one could) that the EU is not willing to allow the UK to have the same terms of connection after Brexit that they are currently extending either to Canada or to Norway. If that were proven to be true, that would be "punishment."One could also argue (and this one I might support) that because of the Irish Good Friday agreements, to which another EU member is a party, the EU has an obligation to treat the UK in a special manner post-Brexit that they are refusing to allow. In support of this argument, one can point out that various senior EU officials like Juncker (what an appropriate name!) have been known to wave away Ireland as an unimportant issue, when it isn't. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun May 19 05:54:01 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun May 19 05:39:59 2019. True but irrelevant to the point under discussion.And sell your oil while you can. Once oil is priced at its true cost, it will be far more expensive than gas, nuclear, solar, and wind. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 19 06:36:59 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun May 19 05:37:42 2019. No, it doesn't. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun May 19 11:09:56 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 19 06:36:59 2019. FYI born DC 4yrs VA, 14yrs MD, 3 yrs Ill, briefly Philly, 4yrs NYC.started love of trains as an infant, streetcars in DC, discovered the L and the IC Electric as child visiting kin in Chicago, later CSS&SB. long term model railroader, steam afficionado--particularly 5632 and any Van Sweringen Berkshire. last night rider DC Transit, CNS&M, lower Myrtle, Market St before the tunnel work. First day rider, Chrystie, 57th St/6th, every segment of BART except the new link to Antioch. So what about SF? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun May 19 11:24:09 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun May 19 11:09:56 2019. Pig wasn't being condescending.Lion was. Everything is a political wash with him. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun May 19 12:03:46 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Edwards! on Sun May 19 11:24:09 2019. yes, you are right. Brother Elias has a very odd set of values and ideas. But as the cliche goes, I defend to the death his right to espouse them. I was telling someone the other day that I learned the word "ecology" from reading Dune way back in Feb 67. I suppose by some standards I am a tree hugger--which is part of why I support public transit. A socialist? yes, for 6 decades.More funding for transit not one mile of highway expansion. (fix what we have) |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun May 19 12:16:55 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project?, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 18 03:41:29 2019. It's stupidity like this that's going to keep this country divided.The fact that You use the term 'Socialist Verses Conservative' shows you REALLY have no idea what Either truly means. Sure,it's so easy to toss a label on something you don't agree with,but at lease be honest about your concerns. Straight Conservative are selfish money grubbing bastards who think they know what's best for you but really don't give a damn ABOUT YOU. They Pass ridiculous laws,that do nothing on the back end to help,only hinder. They CRY SOCIALISM, But eagerly eat up socialistic programs..like Medicare, Social Security, government grants/loans and even welfare (snap,Medicaid,block cash grants). Corporate Welfare etc is also part of 'that system',yet these people actually expect OTHER People to believe THEIR SPIN or definition of What is what. These Exceptionalisms,combined with OTHER political bullshit has breed an core group of individuals with influence. Honestly speaking, if the conservatives left well enough alone,you would not have seen the rise of the SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIORS,or extreme Liberals screwing with every facet of daily life. If society wants to be better, then it has to put the greater good before itself. That means equality for all. Laws that govern in light of EVERY ONE,taking care of Our seniors,a Living Wage,Medical coverage for each and every AMERICAN CITIZEN. There's no love left in America because of hate instilled by WASP men who wanted to stay in control of WHAT AND HOW WE THINK. TRUMP is the Perfect example of how that system works. And YOU ARE THE PERFECT EXAMPLE ON HOW WELL IT WORKS. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun May 19 12:31:50 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat May 18 20:10:20 2019. Yup.The New York side deadending in Macy's basement,without connecting to Any east OR NORTH bound network made it a NJTRANSIT PROJECT. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun May 19 12:41:53 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by AlM on Sun May 19 05:54:01 2019. Oil is not subsidized. Oil is sold at market rates, and it is more expensive than those others anyway.' ROAR |
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Posted by AlM on Sun May 19 12:45:02 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun May 19 12:41:53 2019. Oil is subsidized.The users of oil do not pay for the damages to areas that have three hundred-year floods in 15 years because of global warming caused by too much use of oil. And oil is still generally the cheapest way to operate a vehicle. |
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