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Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by Dave on Thu May 16 14:04:31 2019


The administration will also be seeking to recover an additional $2.5 billion in funds


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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by 3-9 on Thu May 16 14:18:31 2019, in response to Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Dave on Thu May 16 14:04:31 2019.

It's just closing the coffin lid. It was already dead, thanks California!

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu May 16 14:19:39 2019, in response to Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Dave on Thu May 16 14:04:31 2019.

FOX !!!!
i know you are happy now


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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu May 16 15:01:50 2019, in response to Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Dave on Thu May 16 14:04:31 2019.

Good! The project was so far behind schedule and over budget that California had already cut back the scope of the project to where it made no sense. The president only wants to not waste further federal funds on s useless project.

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu May 16 17:31:52 2019, in response to Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Dave on Thu May 16 14:04:31 2019.

clearly calls for making an offer he can't refuse

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by Dave on Thu May 16 18:43:59 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu May 16 14:19:39 2019.

MORON!!!

A huge boondoggle. Great in theory but screwed up badly in the execution.

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Thu May 16 18:46:15 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Dave on Thu May 16 18:43:59 2019.

Nice to know that you hate trains.

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu May 16 19:55:19 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Dave on Thu May 16 18:43:59 2019.

you wouldnt say that if it were in texasssss
you TRUMPANZEEE
FOX

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu May 16 19:55:50 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Thu May 16 18:46:15 2019.

he does especially in california

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by Dave on Fri May 17 00:38:07 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Thu May 16 18:46:15 2019.

Completely untrue.

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by Dave on Fri May 17 00:39:56 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu May 16 19:55:19 2019.

Of course I would. That's why I'm glad the HSR project planned for between Dallas and Houston is being done with private money - if it goes way over budget the risk is on the developers, not the public.

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 17 03:32:40 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Dave on Fri May 17 00:39:56 2019.

PWN3D!

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri May 17 03:52:07 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu May 16 14:19:39 2019.

Has nothing to do with Fox. They proposed and got funding for an LA to SF project and are now only building a Sacramento to Bakersfield project. It is now an entirely different project and it does not need so much federal funding. Mayhap they will have to apply again for the project that they are building.

WHICH IS WHY the LION has told you over and over and over again to fund your damn projects yourself and leave the fed out of it.

Ditch fed funding and go ahead at fullsome speed.

ROAR

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri May 17 03:54:22 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu May 16 17:31:52 2019.

A wall for a Rail... Sounds good to me.

ROARING

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by Fine, Howard, and Fine on Fri May 17 07:51:20 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri May 17 03:54:22 2019.

Monowall! Monowall! Monorail (doh) wall!

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by Steamdriven on Fri May 17 08:02:39 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu May 16 19:55:19 2019.

Resort to insults, lose the debate.

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 17 08:12:57 2019, in response to Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Dave on Thu May 16 14:04:31 2019.

Newsom already ended the project. Faux News shows how far left they've gone with a headline like that.

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri May 17 08:35:38 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Steamdriven on Fri May 17 08:02:39 2019.

what insults ??

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri May 17 08:40:53 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri May 17 03:52:07 2019.

to do that we need to stop sending money to the Feds which is then "wasted" on th unproductive red states and worse DOD corporate welfare.

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri May 17 08:43:03 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri May 17 03:54:22 2019.

no wall except to imprison the orange liar after removal from office.

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri May 17 09:10:32 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri May 17 08:40:53 2019.

So Secede from the Onion.

ROAR

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri May 17 09:11:07 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri May 17 08:43:03 2019.

Not Happening.

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by AlM on Fri May 17 09:19:39 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri May 17 03:52:07 2019.

leave the fed out of it

Why do you have so little respect for the Constitution? The federal government was created specifically because it would be financially stronger than 13 states acting individually.


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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 17 09:26:41 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by AlM on Fri May 17 09:19:39 2019.

And in fact, the Constitution was written because of the pitfalls of a weaker federal government that preceded it. I blame AOC for that one!

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by AlM on Fri May 17 09:39:33 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 17 09:26:41 2019.

(Groan)

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri May 17 09:52:07 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri May 17 09:10:32 2019.

you wish.
we decided that issue at Appomattox.

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri May 17 10:15:24 2019, in response to Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Dave on Thu May 16 14:04:31 2019.



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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 17 12:42:00 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri May 17 09:10:32 2019.

Not constitutional.

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri May 17 12:48:22 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri May 17 08:40:53 2019.

"To provide for the common defense ..." Is a function of Federal Government. To fund an already cancelled state boondoggle is not. This president is doing his sworn duty.


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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by Easy on Fri May 17 13:50:13 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by 3-9 on Thu May 16 14:18:31 2019.

It's not dead though. It's still being built.

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project?

Posted by Easy on Fri May 17 13:51:23 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 17 08:12:57 2019.

He didn't end it as it's still under construction. But he effectively killed it as he declared that it wouldn't be built as promised. At least not at first.

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by Easy on Fri May 17 13:52:54 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Dave on Fri May 17 00:39:56 2019.

Yet your state keeps building professional stadiums for billionaires using taxpayer money. At least you have your priorities right.

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by randyo on Fri May 17 15:57:09 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu May 16 15:01:50 2019.

I agree. Some posters have accused Trump of not liking trains, but in reality, he just wants to insure that projects donít either go over budget or get unnecessarily delayed like the SAS here in NY.

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri May 17 16:09:02 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 17 03:32:40 2019.

nope

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri May 17 16:09:22 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Easy on Fri May 17 13:52:54 2019.

IAWTP !!

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by kp5308 on Fri May 17 16:27:32 2019, in response to Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Dave on Thu May 16 14:04:31 2019.

Good....it was a disaster from the conception of the project. What a black eye for HSR in the US :o(

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by Steamdriven on Fri May 17 17:25:39 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by randyo on Fri May 17 15:57:09 2019.

Correct. Just because it's a train does not meant it's either "Wow That's Great!" or "Government Socialist Waste!". Each project needs to be judged on its merits, and on whether the resources expended were wisely used. The old tightwads who built the IRT got 11 cent's worth out of a dime, that project returned many times its cost in value.
The CA Dream Train Money Drain ain't another IRT. CAHSR is a project meant to consume and disburse the maximum amount other people's money (meaning their time, effort and energy) and buy votes from the credulous who believe that it's free, because they don't personally write a check. Wasted resource$ are never free, they are time, materials, land etc that could have been better used.

The IRT was and still is great (ok, turn radii too sharp), they got it done on time, in budget, while the SAS is a 2 track stubway which consumed the resources needed for a full line and still wasn't built or run right. There's a right way to do things, the old tightfists had it.

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by Dave on Fri May 17 17:33:40 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 17 03:32:40 2019.

Very easy to do with him.

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by Dave on Fri May 17 17:38:35 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Easy on Fri May 17 13:52:54 2019.

Funding stadiums this way is a nationwide phenomena, not just in Texas. I think revenue bonds should be sold rather than bonds backed with taxpayer money, but they never asked me for my opinion!

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by kp5308 on Fri May 17 17:38:50 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri May 17 08:43:03 2019.

YAWN.....

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by Dave on Fri May 17 17:39:16 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Steamdriven on Fri May 17 08:02:39 2019.

Yup.

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by Easy on Fri May 17 18:04:14 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Dave on Fri May 17 17:38:35 2019.

Not in LA. Our football stadium being built in Inglewood - the most expensive ever built - is being built with no taxpayer money. So don't act like Texas is so special because it's depending on private money to build HSR. You just choose to use your money to help billionaires.

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri May 17 19:25:11 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Dave on Fri May 17 17:39:16 2019.

nope

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri May 17 19:25:16 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Dave on Fri May 17 17:39:16 2019.

nope

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri May 17 19:26:13 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Dave on Fri May 17 00:38:07 2019.

idwtp

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 17 19:28:53 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Easy on Fri May 17 18:04:14 2019.

PWN3D!!!!!

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri May 17 22:42:14 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri May 17 12:48:22 2019.

Does that apply to the North River Tunnels?

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri May 17 22:47:09 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Dave on Fri May 17 17:38:35 2019.

If the stadium gets public money, the team should become owned by the government entity which backed the bonds. In my view the only legit pro sports team is the Green Bay Packers because unlike all of the others it can't extort money by threatening to leave.
Hint, it is a socialist enterprise.

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri May 17 22:52:01 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Steamdriven on Fri May 17 17:25:39 2019.

while you are certainly correct about the costs of EVERY transit project (beginning w/BART in the 60s) which are driven by corruption, I suspect the rapidly built IRT had more industrial injuries than the SAS.

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Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 18 01:21:56 2019, in response to Re: Trump administration derails California's high-speed rail project, pulling $1B in funding, posted by Steamdriven on Fri May 17 08:02:39 2019.

Oldest logical fallacy in the book, argumentum ad hominem.

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