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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 13 13:40:13 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by trainsarefun on Mon Apr 13 12:29:01 2009. I wasn't advocating for it, but my position is still that IF one electrifies to Riverhead, then LIRR might as well finish off the Main Line.Good God, it would be a stretch to electrify between Yaphank and Riverhead, and you want to go all the way to Greenport? Now THAT would be overkill! That is the LAST line that needs to be electrified! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 13 13:41:59 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 13 12:56:39 2009. Which is why so many of us advocate full electrification on the PJ line ... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 13 13:46:00 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 13 11:50:07 2009. I do not assume that an electrification project means ONLY third rail installation. It means electrification plus whatever track configuration changes (sidings or double track) needed to effectively use the electrification.It's not as simple as just "adding a third rail". With inefficient third rail electrification, a substation is required every so many miles. That's what makes it so expensive. As for double tracking the Ronk line, I think that is in the long term goals, but they first need ESA (which is already being done), and the third mainline track to Hicksville. Without those first two steps, a double track east of Farmingdale is useless. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 13 13:47:05 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 13 11:40:43 2009. The Upper Harlem really changes nature in Brewster, where the electrification ends. It's almost rural in diesel country, with farms, stables and the occasional "town".Yes, but that was the case before electrification to Brewster too. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 13 13:49:24 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 13 12:53:37 2009. Plenty of people travel between Wassaic and Grand Central, all of the East of Hudson Metro-North Railroad lines are in the "commuter zone". |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 13 13:51:00 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 13 12:26:47 2009. ....or Brentwood, North Amityville, North Bellport, Quiogue (near affluent Quogue), Gordon Heights, parts of Coram, Huntington Station, Port Jefferson Station (parts), parts of Patchogue.Good God, there are streets in the south Bronx that I would feel safer walking on than in some parts of Central Islip or Wyandanch. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 13 13:53:45 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 13 11:36:52 2009. Perhaps M-S is poor because the service is, and better LIRR service would bring more affluence into the area.Same thing with Riverhead. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 13 13:55:43 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 13 13:49:24 2009. Indeed, Wassaic is a heavily used P&R....the extension here has been more successful than the MTA could have hoped for. Though I'd imagine more than a small percentage are headed for the employment center of White Plains, not necessarily NYC ... |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 13 13:59:31 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun Apr 12 23:30:30 2009. Joke: If they extend electrification to Yaphank, the LIRR might as well close off the Montauk east of Patchogue, and open up the old cutoff in Manorville for the Hamptons folks because everybody will just drive to Yaphank or Medford for service.The Montauk should also be electrified to Speonk. Remotely Serious: If they do electrify, maybe a stop at Holtsville with a parking garage for traffic off Nicolls Rd should be considered... Holtsville looked like a dump from the bus, but that Park and Ride stop idea is a great one, Stony Brook students with cars would love that I'm pretty sure. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 13 14:01:48 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 13 13:53:45 2009. Riverhead is a lost cause, IMHO. And service to the south shore line can be made faster due to the full double tracking from Sayville and the Central branch cutoff to the Main Line. Any train from Riverhead to NYC would have to be squeezed into the already overtaxed, partially single tracked Ronkonkoma line. Express options would be limited. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 13 14:02:07 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun Apr 12 23:34:53 2009. There's no Park-and-Ride at the Newark Airport station, only the light rail station. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 13 14:03:05 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 13 12:41:44 2009. you don't live in Suffolk (and your visits are limited to railfanning) and you want to talk about minorities?And you do live in Suffolk? I do, and Suffolk is quite diverse. There are plenty of "minorities" in Suffolk County, and your stereotypical assumption about Suffolk County couldn't be more off the map. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 13 14:05:15 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 13 13:59:31 2009. You can't justify the expense of electrification to Speonk. Yes, Mastic-Shirley could use more service, but that demand could be met with a more liberal amount of diesels. And if you electrify Port Jefferson, you can run more dual modes out of Speonk for peak service needs. Speonk is a tiny yard, not suited for electric trains. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 13 14:05:23 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 12 21:56:47 2009. "You OBVIOUSLY have no idea how diverse Suffolk County is."You OBVIOUSLY don't realize how naive you are. Instead of railfanning, you should be people-watching. Suffolk is diverse, but whites and minorities often follow rules of segregation, and anti-minority violence is not uncommon. While Suffolk is diverse on paper, its individual communities are often not, and racial prejudice plays an important role. Spending a bit less time on trains and more on other pursuits would be good for you. The High Line in Manhattan in your post isn't a NIMBY problem. It's an obsessive foaming problem related to someone who can't hold a discussion about anything other than trains. Nobody gives a shit about trains on the High Line except a few foamers who post here. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 13 14:07:51 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 12 23:10:52 2009. I really think the first step is to finally expand service to at LEAST Yaphank, and they have that in the Capital plan for the future to electrify to there.I still don't understand why it's going to end in Yaphank over Riverhead, is it because of the lack of space for parking in Riverhead? |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 13 14:11:24 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by trainsarefun on Sun Apr 12 23:45:55 2009. If they electrify to Riverhead, they might as well complete the Main Line then, and shift all diesel resources to the Oyster Bay Branch and the Montauk Line east of Babylon, and also electrify the Central Branch remnant.The Main Line doesn't need to be completed, Hampton Jitney takes care of the Ronkonkoma line east of Riverhead, what needs to be done after Riverhead is Port Jefferson, Speonk, then Oyster Bay. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 13 14:13:44 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 13 11:51:15 2009. Not at all, Riverhead is where the population is and a long of blue-collar folk that want to save money on gas would take the railroad there. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 13 14:14:52 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun Apr 12 23:57:41 2009. Why would catenary be needed for electrification to Riverhead? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 13 14:15:40 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 13 13:39:52 2009. You are absolutely correct. Nothing "Eastern Suffolk" about Patchouge.....nothing "Eastern Suffolk" about Medford.....and nothing "Eastern Suffolk" about anything Port Jefferson or west of there. It's really 'Western Suffolk", but at least "Central Suffolk" at best. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 13 14:16:42 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Apr 13 03:27:12 2009. Electrifying the Central Branch won't help the Babylon branch until the Third Main Line track is added. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 13 14:20:25 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 13 13:35:14 2009. "Western Suffolk's service along the entire Port Jeff line is way better than the Eastern Suffokk people you are quoting."I am not quoting eastern Suffolk people. I am quoting central Suffolk people as well. I have friends in Mt. Sinai who use the Port Jeff train and they go to meetings with neighbors. They could give a shit aboiut the one seat ride; they just want their train to show up frequently and on time. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 13 14:23:12 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by trainsarefun on Mon Apr 13 12:59:53 2009. He wants the LIRR to electrify to Port Jefferson. They have little reason to do so with a proper yard in Huntington.What does one have to do with the other? A yard in Huntington would be even better as it provides additional storage space for trains sort of like the yard in Freeport. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 13 14:26:00 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 13 12:08:26 2009. And the same can be said of Stony Brook, or any of the stations east of there.Stony Brook students don't drive to the station, they use the College shuttle buses. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 13 14:26:19 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 13 14:07:51 2009. Yaphank (or more specifically, the William Floyd Parkway corridor) is basically the "suburbanization" line, or the commuter territory line at current. It used to be Route 112, but that has shifted.The LIRR would have plenty of options if they wanted a yard in Riverhead, and if they had to move the actual station location in Riverhead, there are plenty of options that would allow space. But Riverhead would never get the "onslaught". It wouldn't even need that hourly service Ronkonkmoma gets....but Yaphank could use that, as most of the east people would instead come to Yaphank. Once you get east of Yaphank, you reach the point of diminishing returns. Furthermore, the LIRR already owns a piece of land for a yard somewhere in Manorville, which is probably where electrification would officially end. Last I heard, their piece of land is in the protected pine barrens, and they were trying to do a land swap with Suffolk County for a nearby piece of land outside the pine barrons. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 13 14:28:51 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 13 14:05:15 2009. And Speonk just doesn't need that kind of service. Patchougue is really where it would be logical, as mentioned. Sayville is too short. Patchogue there's ABSOLUTELY no room for a yard (ironically the LIRR used to have a nice yard there along West Ave, but foolishly sold it decades ago, and it has been developed.Bellport has the room but would be a ridiculous spot to terminate trains, that leaves Mastic Shirley again..... |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 13 14:30:07 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 13 13:47:05 2009. I'm sure the population of the upper Harlem shot up after electrification....off-peak service before 1984 was provided with single RDC's on 2 hour headways. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 13 14:31:07 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 13 12:54:43 2009. Shirley and Mastic will NEVER be upper middle class. Not a chance with the way the area was developed on small lots, and it's housing stock. Remember, Mastic and Shirley is NOT a bad area. It's a "salt of the earth", working class neighborhood.I don't know how to explain it, but picture Lanford, of the sitcom Roseanne...... |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 13 14:31:42 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 13 14:26:00 2009. And the railroad. Ride the 16:05 out of Port Jefferson on a school day, or the 7:07 out of Huntington .... |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 13 14:33:02 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 13 14:31:42 2009. Huh? I'm saying how they get from the College to the LIRR station, not to the College in general. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 13 14:37:01 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 13 14:01:48 2009. Riverhead is a great place to end electrification as it's not only an employment center for reverse peak riders, it's also a place where a lot of blue collar workers (who do make up a lot of the Ronkonkoma branches ridership during the peak hours already) who would take the new service live. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 13 14:37:02 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 13 14:28:51 2009. Any electrification terminating at Sayville would also require a boost in diesel service east of there...I'd say every two hours off-peak to Speonk to fill in the gaps between Montauk trains. That should meet all the needs of the varying stations along the line. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 13 14:38:25 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 13 14:05:23 2009. While Suffolk is diverse on paper, its individual communities are often not, and racial prejudice plays an important role.The only prejudice that I've seen over there is prejudice against the Latin people from the Black and White people. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 13 14:40:53 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 13 14:31:07 2009. I think the best term you could use is "trailer trash"...without the trailers, southern accents and love of NASCAR. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 13 14:40:58 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 13 14:05:15 2009. Speonk is where commuter territory really ends and where the yard is. It would also be an attractive option for some commuters in the Hamptons who aren't already taken by the Hampton Jitney quite yet. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 13 14:42:45 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 13 14:33:02 2009. Oh, OK. The college isn't THAT far from the train. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 13 14:45:05 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 13 14:37:01 2009. Problem is, little demand. It'd cost tens of millions of dollars to electrify the section between Yaphank and Riverhead (that's a long stretch, more than 15 miles, IIRC). All for only a few riders. Might as well take those funds and put it towards electrification of the Port Jeff, or even to Speonk, which is only slightly less wasteful. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 13 14:47:33 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 13 14:38:25 2009. True, and that's not racial. It's nativist/immigrant bigotry...with genuine foundation. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 13 14:48:04 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 13 13:49:24 2009. Who said otherwise? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 13 14:48:55 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 13 13:55:43 2009. Yup, that's exactly what I said.....it's has a "Ronkonkoma" effect to a smaller extent. Not much traffic FROM Wassaic itself, but plenty from points north, east and west of it. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 13 14:52:04 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 13 14:05:23 2009. You OBVIOUSLY don't realize how naive you are. Instead of railfanning, you should be people-watching.LOL, I rarely railfan. That's your attack or excuse for everything you disagree with. I know quite well "who" I live with in my neighborhood and surrounding neighborhoods. Suffolk is diverse, but whites and minorities often follow rules of segregation, and anti-minority violence is not uncommon. While Suffolk is diverse on paper, its individual communities are often not, and racial prejudice plays an important role. Depends on where you are. The communities along the Wading River branch are such a mixture of different demographics. Spending a bit less time on trains and more on other pursuits would be good for you. LMAO!!!! I haven't been on a train since last August. Subway, LIRR, or otherwise! The High Line in Manhattan in your post isn't a NIMBY problem. It's an obsessive foaming problem related to someone who can't hold a discussion about anything other than trains. I never mentioned my opinion either way about the High Line. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 13 14:54:09 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 13 14:23:12 2009. A yard in Huntington would be even better as it provides additional storage space for trains sort of like the yard in Freeport.Dude, and that is the LIRR's dilema. WHERE are you putting this yard "in Huntington". The desire for a yard was the LIRR's main reason for further electrification. Demand exists, but the YARD was an integral part of the whole plan. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 13 14:56:35 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 13 14:20:25 2009. I am not quoting eastern Suffolk people. I am quoting central Suffolk people as well.But that's not what you said, you said "Eastern Suffolk" people, that's why it didn't make sense. Now you clarified it. I was going by WHAT YOU SAID. I don't read minds on to what you mean. I have friends in Mt. Sinai who use the Port Jeff train and they go to meetings with neighbors. They could give a shit aboiut the one seat ride; they just want their train to show up frequently and on time. That's great for them. I am glad they represent the entire population of Central/Western Suffolk County, the line this line runs through. Thanks for the VERY scientific survey using one family in Mt Sinai. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 13 14:56:43 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 13 14:20:25 2009. I am not quoting eastern Suffolk people. I am quoting central Suffolk people as well.But that's not what you said, you said "Eastern Suffolk" people, that's why it didn't make sense. Now you clarified it. I was going by WHAT YOU SAID. I don't read minds on to what you mean. I have friends in Mt. Sinai who use the Port Jeff train and they go to meetings with neighbors. They could give a shit aboiut the one seat ride; they just want their train to show up frequently and on time. That's great for them. I am glad they represent the entire population of Central/Western Suffolk County, the line this line runs through. Thanks for the VERY scientific survey using one family in Mt Sinai. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Mon Apr 13 15:22:02 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 13 14:20:25 2009. I have friends in Mt. Sinai who use the Port Jeff train and they go to meetings with neighbors.Sample size = ???? Plus, as I said earlier, per your extrapolation, LIRR blew money needlessly on the 23 DM30s that they purchased, and since then on their maintenance and troubleshooting. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Apr 13 15:27:02 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 13 13:51:00 2009. Good God, there are streets in the south Bronx that I would feel safer walking on than in some parts of Central Islip or Wyandanch.That's not saying much. Grand Concourse from 149th to 161st is a very pleasant neighborhood. I don't know Wyandanch but I'd 100 times rather hang out on Grand Concourse than in parts of Red Bank, NJ (which I don't claim is a particularly bad town either). |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 13 15:55:21 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 13 14:38:25 2009. I've seen and heard prejudice about blacks living in ghettos from middle class WASPS and Jews living in places like Mt. Sinai. To some of them, every black who isn't a lawyer, a doctor, Michael Jordan or Colin Powell must be a Crip. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 13 16:00:50 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by trainsarefun on Mon Apr 13 15:22:02 2009. The assumption present in your post is that you knew the duel modes would be lemons before MTA bought them. The other assumption in your post is that you actually talk to anyone in Suffolk about anything but train serial numbers.I hope the recession doesn't take your day job. Your skills as a consulting engineer leave something to be desired. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 13 16:02:13 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by AlM on Mon Apr 13 15:27:02 2009. The area around the stadium is fine. And on game days, you'd have to to work really hard to get mugged with the sea of blue uniforms all around you. |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Mon Apr 13 16:11:38 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 13 14:26:00 2009. I don't think he was thinking of Stony Brook students since he was writing about westbound (NYC bound) commuters. |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Mon Apr 13 16:35:05 2009, in response to Re: Significant part of former LIRR Wading River Branch to become rail trail, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 13 13:18:28 2009. The Ronkonkoma line east of GreenportI'd like that. Shelter Island or Orient Point? :p |
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