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Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 26 08:31:28 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 26 07:46:23 2015. Chelsea and the Meatpacking District were dumps when trains ran there and that didn't change until it became certain that nothing was ever gonna run there again. The area around the Houston/2nd Ave station was a dump for decades even though there was a subway station right there, 15 minutes form midtown. The influx of foreign money into NYC has pushed up the prices of all housing, with a serious trickle down effect. The result is that anywhere that isn't too long a trip to midtown is in high demand. The high line area would be in even higher demand if somehow the trip to midtown could be reduced by 10 minutes. That doesn't necessarily mean that the best use of NYC transportation dollars would be extending the 7 or the L farther. |
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Posted by Tramrunner on Sun Apr 26 08:35:07 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by 3-9 on Sun Apr 26 06:08:59 2015. I love high line park. Just was there yesterday. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 26 08:37:44 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 26 08:31:28 2015. The area around the Houston/2nd Ave station was a dump for decadesThat area would still be a dump today had the 2nd Av El never been demolished. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Apr 26 08:54:13 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by Tramrunner on Sun Apr 26 08:35:07 2015. Gotta check it out myself before it gets hot. :-) |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Apr 26 09:39:32 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 26 06:20:46 2015. Which is why off-peak fares are blacked out in the AM reverse peak. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Apr 26 09:41:14 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by italianstallion on Sat Apr 25 20:48:52 2015. The Bronx is not China. Bikes will never amount to any significant market share as a feeder to a subway service. |
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Re: (N) extension into The Bronx |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Apr 26 10:09:58 2015, in response to Re: (N) extension into The Bronx, posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Apr 25 17:53:47 2015. (Q) 96th Street to Coney Island via Brighton and the Bridge 24/7(N) Forest Hills to Coney Island via Sea Beach and the Bridge 16/7 (R) Astoria to Ft. Hamilton via Broadway Local and the Tunnel 24/7 (D) 205th Street to Coney Island via West end and the Bridge 24/7 (B) 168th Street to Brighton Beach via Brighton and the bridge 16/5 (R) service is at saturation loadings weekdays. New yards are built at Con Edison, Astoria; 36th Street, 5th Avenue; and maybe under Ft. Hamilton. Broadway Express runs 63rd Street via Bridge Broadway Local runs 60th Street via Tunnel with some short turns at City Hall, Whitehall Street and 36th Street. RAOR |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 26 11:20:21 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by 3-9 on Sun Apr 26 06:08:59 2015. Exactly. |
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Re: (N) extension into The Bronx |
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Posted by ntrainride on Sun Apr 26 13:42:57 2015, in response to Re: (N) extension into The Bronx, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Apr 26 10:09:58 2015. raor? |
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Posted by ntrainride on Sun Apr 26 13:47:03 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by 3-9 on Sun Apr 26 06:08:59 2015. the public be damned! ahem... |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Apr 26 14:04:08 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by Joe V on Sun Apr 26 09:41:14 2015. Correct. |
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Re: Extending the (N) to The Bronx |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Apr 26 14:58:41 2015, in response to Re: Extending the (N) to The Bronx, posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Apr 26 02:21:12 2015. The easy way to serve Jacobi is to extend a branch of the 6 through the Weschester yard, then up over the Amtrak tracks to Jacobi. This would be a very short construction. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Apr 26 15:02:10 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 26 08:26:43 2015. +1,000 |
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Posted by pragmatist on Sun Apr 26 16:23:55 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by SMAZ on Fri Apr 24 02:02:33 2015. If it is considered property deeded to NYC as park land, it normally requires approval of the State Legislature to use any part of it for a non park purpose. There are some exceptions (like acreage swaps) but it is very hard to undo a park. I am not certain that this is what applies to this property, but if it is now owned by NYC and listed as parkland, good luck. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Apr 26 16:25:36 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by 3-9 on Sun Apr 26 05:47:01 2015. I could be wrong, but I believe the freight line (Bay Ridge) is owned by MTA via LIRR. Most of it sees no traffic but AFAIK they have not abandoned it. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Apr 26 16:30:30 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Apr 26 07:59:08 2015. If one reads sites like Streetsblog, one finds bicyclists are frequently killed by motorists which is why there is such a push for Protected Bicycle Lanes. Unfortunately, we stillhave cops who basicly believe the cyclists are at fault for riding. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Sun Apr 26 16:32:17 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Apr 26 16:25:36 2015. LIRR owned, NYAR operated, unless something has changed |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Apr 26 16:33:12 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 26 08:26:43 2015. So check out the bart.gov site for renderings of the coming fleet. Bike parking spaces in the cars because the demand is there from riders. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Apr 26 16:36:49 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by Joe V on Sun Apr 26 09:41:14 2015. By your logic Chicago and the SF Bay Area are China. I had a "bike permit" from when BART introduced them until the permits were abolished as an economy measure. Damned convenient for many sorts of trips. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Apr 26 16:45:00 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by Edwards! on Fri Apr 24 17:19:37 2015. So in other words, you "enjoy" "working" with children. Uh huh. Sure. Keep your hands where everyone can see them. LOL.Nope, not projecting, but LOL at you having a "folder" of stuff about me! You're insane! |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Apr 26 16:45:16 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by pragmatist on Sun Apr 26 16:32:17 2015. Thank you for confirming that. So as LIRR, unless explicitly exempted in future, FRA regulated. That however does not preclude fare integration by the RFID successor to the current Metrocard. The EIS process should be easier as there is still trackage. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Apr 26 17:12:39 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by Edwards! on Sat Apr 25 23:28:03 2015. Small sections of tunnels were cut-off, by-passed, and/or destroyed. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Apr 26 17:14:18 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Apr 26 16:36:49 2015. Still an insignificant amount of commuters ride them. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Apr 26 17:21:36 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by Joe V on Sun Apr 26 09:41:14 2015. Why not? You can predict the future? |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Apr 26 17:22:06 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Sun Apr 26 07:56:01 2015. I would, depending on the circumstances. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Apr 26 17:28:27 2015, in response to Re: (N) extension into The Bronx, posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Apr 25 17:53:47 2015. If the line were elevated high above Rikers, that would actually help avoid the problem of steep grades leading to the bridge. I guess there could be several horizontal barriers that would prevent climbing. The supports for the Hell Gate viaduct on Randall's/Ward's Island were also designed to not be climbable, and the design wound up making them quite attractive. But the chances of this being built are still nil. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Apr 26 17:28:38 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 26 07:46:23 2015. The High Line as a freight only route no doubt diminished property values, but as a rapid transit line making mass transit more convenient for local residents, it would likely have the opposite effect. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 26 17:35:55 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Apr 26 07:59:08 2015. In its first year Citibike users traveled 14.7 miles with no fatalities.??? 14.7 million miles? |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 26 17:41:18 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 26 08:37:44 2015. But the removal of the El did not change its "dump"status.Just let you see the "dumpness" better.The area didn't change for the better until the early 90s, 5 decades after the El vanished. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 26 17:54:00 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 26 17:35:55 2015. That's 10% of the distance to Mars. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Apr 26 18:14:18 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Apr 26 16:30:30 2015. From personal observation, most bikers I’ve seen ride the wrong way either on two way streets or one way streets, on sidewalks and pass red traffic signals and ride at night without any sort of lights or reflectors whatever. That seems to make the bikers at fault for any fate that may befall them! |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Apr 26 18:19:18 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Apr 26 16:36:49 2015. Come out here (Bay Area) and I will show you around--you know first hand experience trumps what others write. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Apr 26 18:23:50 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 26 17:35:55 2015. Yes, 14.7 million miles. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 26 18:37:48 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 26 17:41:18 2015. The gentrification is still going on, slowly but steadily. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 26 18:38:58 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by 3-9 on Sun Apr 26 08:54:13 2015. That would be a smart move. I went there last year on a sunny late spring day & it was like walking thru a subway concourse, full of geeky tourists dripping with cameras taking pictures everything from passing boats to shitting sea gulls. However, there were many pretty young European damsels in loose fitting non-conservative attire that made for serious retina searing eye candy! At the end of my trek on W 14th st, there are several pubs where you can quench your stroll induced thirst. Just make sure your plastic can cover it. Kinda pricey to say the least. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 26 18:44:44 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Apr 26 18:23:50 2015. OK, that's a good number of miles without a fatality. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Apr 26 18:45:36 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by randyo on Sun Apr 26 18:14:18 2015. You won't hear me defend any of those behaviors. That said, when the SUV or delivery truck takes out a cyclist who is going the correct direction in the correct lane in full daylight... Before I quit riding, I always displayed lights fore and aft. Have to say though, that I got some crap from drivers angry at me for being in the traffic lane as prescribed by CA motor vehicle code. The best was the woman who told me to "get your ass on the sidewalk where you belong". |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Apr 26 18:48:21 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by randyo on Sun Apr 26 17:28:38 2015. Yes, if it had been done before it was turned into a park. But not now. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 26 18:50:09 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by randyo on Sun Apr 26 18:14:18 2015. Plenty of cyclists obey the law and still get abused. Plenty of others don't obey the law. |
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Posted by Jace on Sun Apr 26 19:12:16 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Apr 25 19:01:41 2015. I'll stick with the tube by tube damage report that I have; no flooding in Joralemon. |
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Re: (N) extension into The Bronx |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Apr 26 19:18:03 2015, in response to Re: (N) extension into The Bronx, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Apr 26 10:09:58 2015. What do you propose to serve Wash Hts and CPW lcl service when the B isn’t running. The c can cover CPW and 8 Av at other times, but what about the other times. Having the C terminate at 145 St or extended to 168 St was done in the past and the MTA changed it for the sake of service consistency. Leaving the R and the N the way they are is the most acceptable way to operate the service since unless a maintenance and inspection facility is built in your proposes Astoria yard, complicated drill moves would still be required to get the cars either to Jamaica or CIYd for inspection and maintenance. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Apr 26 19:34:57 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Apr 26 16:45:16 2015. Thanks for the info! |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Apr 26 20:03:25 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by randyo on Sun Apr 26 18:14:18 2015. I have rarely seen bicyclists obey traffic lights. Basically, they act like very fast pedestrians. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Apr 26 21:08:19 2015, in response to Re: (N) extension into The Bronx, posted by randyo on Sun Apr 26 19:18:03 2015. Yup. But it speeds up the trunk service, and the towers in Manhattan can be fleeted., AND that makes the (RR) a primo candidate for CBTC.ROAR |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Apr 26 23:15:17 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Apr 26 18:45:36 2015. I hear you.My wife and I exercise extreme caution when we ride. Motorists are extremely possessive over roads...and will do you harm if they can get away with it. We wear protective gear,and obey the traffic laws to stay safe. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Apr 26 23:48:42 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by Edwards! on Sun Apr 26 23:15:17 2015. LOL, YOU ride a bike!?!?! THAT I have GOT to see!!! |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Apr 27 05:55:46 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Sun Apr 26 07:56:01 2015. Who the F is going to use a bike to get to a station?No one, obviously. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Mon Apr 27 06:51:34 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 26 18:38:58 2015. Yeah, I think I'll try to skip the tourist traps when I go by there, maybe bring my own food and beverages. At least there's a McDonald's somewhat close to the northern end. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Apr 27 08:23:19 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 26 18:38:58 2015. However, there were many pretty young European damsels in loose fitting non-conservative attire that made for serious retina searing eye candy!Pics? How many phone numbers did you get? |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Apr 27 08:25:38 2015, in response to Re: De Blasio Want To Expand The Subway, posted by 3-9 on Mon Apr 27 06:51:34 2015. Yeah, I think I'll try to skip the tourist traps when I go by thereWhat tourist traps? maybe bring my own food and beverages.WTF? NYC has thousands of interesting restaurants and you'd bring your own food because you think it's a tourist trap? At least there's a McDonald's somewhat close to the northern end.McDonalds!?!!? I really hope you're joking. Unless maybe you think that the pretty young European damsels in loose fitting non-conservative attire congregate at McDonalds... |
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