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Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 13:03:17 2011

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Crystal Mangum, the woman who falsely accused several members of the Duke University lacrosse team with raping her, has been indiced for first-degree murder. Mangum, now 32, was indicted for the stabbing death of her boyfriend, Reginald Daye, who died of his injuries in a Durham, N.C. hospital a few days ago. Since Mangum made her bogus rape accusations, she has been beset by mental-health issues, including an incident last year in which she set fire to her house during an argument with Daye. She pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge in that case. If convicted of Daye's murder, Mangum could face the death penalty.



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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Apr 19 13:06:55 2011, in response to Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 13:03:17 2011.

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Crystal Magnum? What it is with some black mothers and their choice of baby names????

As for her crime, she's innocent until proven guilty. Even she, even now deserves this consideration, after what she did and what others did in response (those Duke professors still have their jobs).

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 13:14:15 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Apr 19 13:06:55 2011.

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Yes, she is presumed innocent until proven guilty, which is more than those lacrosse players were afforded when she accused them of raping her. Those guys were convictyed in the media even before Mangum's story fell apart.

However, it doesn't look good for Mangum. She was identified, by name, during a 911 call reporting the stabbing, and there is, according to other reports, lots of forensic evidence to corroborate witnesses' accounts of the killing.

BTW, your shameless race-baiting is beneath contempt. "Crystal" is a female name given to black and white kids. An old (white) friend of mine just became a grandfather when his daughter, Crystal, gave birth.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 19 13:16:59 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Apr 19 13:06:55 2011.

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"What it is with some black mothers and their choice of baby names???? "

What about the White parents who named their son after Hitler.....what's up with that? eh? this is AMERICA....you can name your kids whatever you want....get it?



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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 19 13:27:42 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Apr 19 13:06:55 2011.

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Crystal is a normal name. Mangum (not Magnum) is the last name. She may be related to Willie Mangum, the South Carolina candidate* of the Whig Party in the 1836 presidential election. The Whigs nominated four different people in different regions on the expectation that they could deny Martin Van Buren of a majority and force the Whig controlled House to choose a Whig president. It didn't work and Van Buren became the last Vice President to be elected President in his own right until 1968 (or 1988 if you only count right after his VP term).

*I'm not sure if he was actually nominated by the party. From 1836-1860 South Carolina was the only state not to have a presidential election and instead had the legislature choose the electors.

And no, I didn't look any of this up.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 13:36:48 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 19 13:27:42 2011.

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Crystal is a normal name.

What on earth do you mean by a "normal" name?

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 19 13:44:12 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 13:36:48 2011.

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Lots of people are named "crystal" it's been around for a while. Her parents didn't just make it up.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 19 13:44:29 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 19 13:44:12 2011.

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See celebrity baby names for names that are "made up."

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 13:48:47 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 19 13:44:12 2011.

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So you know for an absolute fact that certain given names are "made up"?

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 19 13:54:37 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 13:48:47 2011.

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Names are made up and are a way of being counter-culture.

I'll bet someone named Nushawn will be more likely to get in trouble than someone named Shawn. At the same time, a girl named Sara will probably do better than an Ashley or Amber. That's how it works.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 14:03:25 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 19 13:54:37 2011.

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You are unreal. How, pray tell, does a person's given name affect their future life?

Did a kid from Hawaii named Barack fare worse in life than a kid named Henry or John?

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 19 14:05:21 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 14:03:25 2011.

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"Did a kid from Hawaii named Barack fare worse in life than a kid named Henry or John? "

OOPPSS!....Luchie forgot about that one.... :)



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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 19 14:07:04 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 19 13:54:37 2011.

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"I'll bet someone named Nushawn will be more likely to get in trouble than someone named Shawn."

Do you have the statistical data to prove your point? eh? guess not...oh....and streets-smarts doesn't count here .......lol

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Apr 19 14:11:57 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 13:36:48 2011.

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Chrystal is a perfectly normal name. The problem is when your sisters are named China, Chiffon and Stoneware.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 19 14:14:58 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Apr 19 14:11:57 2011.

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"Chrystal is a perfectly normal name. The problem is when your sisters are named China, Chiffon and Stoneware."

I had a cousin named Ruffus T. Firefly, we got into alot of clubs with his name alone .... :)

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 14:17:07 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Apr 19 14:11:57 2011.

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I used to know a couple that conceived a baby while drunk on a cocktail called "Thug Passion". They named the twins that were born (a boy and a girl) Hennessy and Alize. I hope those kids (they're about five now) give their parents holy hell for that someday...

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 14:19:15 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 19 14:14:58 2011.

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"If chewing gum is chewed, the chewer is pusued, we stand 'em up against the wall and POP goes the weasel!"--Groucho Marx, as Rufus T. Firefly, in Duck Soup, one of my favorite Marx Brothers movies. :)

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 19 14:52:50 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 14:03:25 2011.

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You are unreal. How, pray tell, does a person's given name affect their future life?

Did a kid from Hawaii named Barack fare worse in life than a kid named Henry or John?


Actually, many many many studies have been done on names and success and personality traits. One such study was a headline last week on yahoo.com newsfeed.

Barack is totally different than Antnee or Deshawn. And He used the name "Barry" for most of his life.


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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 15:19:46 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 19 14:52:50 2011.

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Using the name "Barry" for "Barack" is like using "Joe" for "Joseph", or "Russ" for "Russell", or even "Bart" for "Bartholomew".

As for the correlation of names and success, I have had bosses named Keyouwana, Daquan, and Kenyette. The first two are currently captains, and Kenyette is currently on Mayor Bloomberg's staff. Ethnic names don't necessarily impede your progress in life, although many immigrants do Anglicize their names upon arrival in the US, to avoid discrimination. I worked with a partner named Khokhar, who used "Kenny" as his name for that reason.

The other exception to this is in show business. Rock Hudson, for example, wouldn't have gone very far as "Bernie Schwartz"...

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 19 15:35:16 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 15:19:46 2011.

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I still say that a Sara will do better than an Amber. A Shawn will do better than a Deshawn.

Immigrants Anglicize to be patriotic and conform. My grandfather Eronzo, and father Vincenzo, became Edward and Vince in America.

As for those on Bloomberg's staff, that's civil service, a place where people with weird counter-culture racially charged names can succeed. Like that politician guy Kwame something who was ranting in The Chief about Cathie Black. I am not surprised that his name is Kwame instead of Bob or Nathan or Chris. Kwame clearly indicates that he grew up in a a very racially conscious household.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 19 15:37:01 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 15:19:46 2011.

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" Rock Hudson, for example, wouldn't have gone very far as "Bernie Schwartz"... "

But Barbara did............

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“I arrived in Hollywood without having my nose fixed, my teeth capped, or my name changed. That is very gratifying to me.”—Barbra Streisand





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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 19 15:37:26 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 19 14:52:50 2011.

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At some point all names were made up. I don't have issues with culturally-centric names. There is nothing wrong with naming you child Shanequa, or Hong Fat Kwan or miguel or even Abraham. Remember a rose by any other name ..........................

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 19 15:41:19 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 19 15:37:01 2011.

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That's because Rock Hudson's real name was not Bernie Schwartz. He was born Roy Harold Scherer. Tony Curtis was born Bernie Schwartz. Don't feel bad for your confusion. All Jewish actors look alike :)

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 15:44:38 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 19 15:41:19 2011.

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Oops, I messed up on Rock, sorry. I knew it was either Rock or Tony whose real name was Bernie Schwartz...

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Apr 19 15:46:29 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 14:17:07 2011.

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My mother, when she was still working as a teacher's aide had 5 sisters go through her class: Diamond, Sapphire, Emerald, Ruby and Amber. To demonstrate this is not necessarily an issue that's stereotypically limited to women of a certain race, the mother of these 5 girls was white.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 19 15:46:47 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 15:19:46 2011.

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Ethnic names do impede your progress, especially when they are black ethnic names. Like he said there have been several studies that back this up. I can remember one or two being reported where they made resumes using uniquely African American names and then made the same resumes using more generic names and the resumes with generic names were very significantly more likely to be called for an interview. I'm sure that extends to many other aspects of life where your name makes an impression. Not that you can't be successful with a black ethnic name, but it will be harder.

Oh and that reminds me of another study or maybe it was the same one. Do you know what the most common reason given for people deciding to not hire black males? IIRC it was "I don't want any trouble." Black men are seen as threatening and potentially dangerous by many people that hire.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Apr 19 15:47:39 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 19 15:37:01 2011.

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Barbra didn't look too bad here:



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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 19 15:48:08 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 19 15:41:19 2011.

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"All Jewish actors look alike :)"

REALLY???????????

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 19 15:48:14 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 19 15:35:16 2011.

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You're probably right just because there is a correlation between exotic names and poverty.

But I have a very responsible colleague named Crystal. And our office has a very responsible secretary who named her kid Zaire.



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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Apr 19 15:49:17 2011, in response to Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 13:03:17 2011.

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Salaam?

Are you reading this?

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Apr 19 15:51:26 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 19 15:48:08 2011.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 19 15:53:11 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 19 13:27:42 2011.

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She may be related to Willie Mangum, the South Carolina candidate* of the Whig Party in the 1836 presidential election.

Perhaps, but much more likely is that her ancestors were owned by him or his relatives. Slaves took the last name of the people that owned them both when slaves and then later when freed. That's why NOI Muslims used to change their last names to "X" since their real family heritage had been lost.

I'll add that there are lots of "Mangums" in NC and the large majority of them are black so it's possible that he was a prolific slaveowner or that he had many relatives.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 19 15:56:28 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Apr 19 15:46:29 2011.

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Maybe their parents thought they were all gems?

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 19 15:57:15 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 19 15:48:08 2011.

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they look alike to me

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 15:58:40 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 19 15:46:47 2011.

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Black men are seen as threatening and potentially dangerous by many people that hire.

No, black men are seen as "threatening and potentially dangerous" by those who make hiring decisions, and still subscribe to those bigoted stereotypes. Again, I had a dynamite boss during my EMS years named Daquan, and he was as tough a stickler for the rules as anyone I ever took orders from. But he was also a top-notch medic (one of a select few I'd want working on me if I were the patient), and his name was obviously no indicator of his work performance.



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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 19 16:09:25 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 15:58:40 2011.

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Didn't we just say the same thing? Except that I said "many" and you keep pointing out that you had a great boss named Daquan which as great as that is, it's not entirely relevant. No one is suggesting that people with black ethnic names can't be great employees or great bosses, just that it's harder to get your foot in the door.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 19 16:13:01 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 15:58:40 2011.

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EMS. That's civil service. With a name like Daquan, he'd be less likely to succeed in the real world off a resume. Jobs like EMS, Transit, DOE are more suitable for such people.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 16:14:50 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 19 16:09:25 2011.

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I agree that ethnic names might make it more difficult for someone to get their "foot in the door", but I'm wondering why these stereotypes still persist today. There are "threatening and dangerous" males in every ethnic or racial group, some of whom have the most common, innocuous-sounding names.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 19 16:15:22 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 19 15:37:26 2011.

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True, at some point all names were made up. But the 70's and early 80's movement which continues today, to take a name like Shawn, and make it Nushawn, Leshawn, Deshawn, is for totally political and counter-culture reasons.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 19 16:17:02 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 19 16:13:01 2011.

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"With a name like Daquan, he'd be less likely to succeed in the real world off a resume."


Really?

So how did this fellow get as far as he did in life without changing his name? eh? something doesn't add up here....lol...right Luchie?

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 19 16:20:56 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 16:14:50 2011.

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I'm sure my uncle Nufio did himself no favors by not Americanizing his name. Idiot. Just didn't know a any better.

At the same time, I know someone named Thornwell. That's his grandmother's maiden name or some WASPY tradition. It's a totally unique name, but that won't hurt him in life. Might help.



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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Apr 19 16:24:22 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 19 15:56:28 2011.

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Yep. That was her reasoning. Still silly.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 16:25:11 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 19 16:13:01 2011.

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Not so fast. In NYC, the EMS system is comprised of FDNY, various "participating provider" hospitals that operate their trucks in the city's 911 system, commercial contractors like AMR and TrabsCare, and neighborhood volunteer ambulance corps. Regardless of which type of service you're with, you must still take and pass a state EMT course (at a minimum), and for FDNY, attend the EMS Academy after that. EMTs must take and pass refresher training every three years to maintain their certification (and their jobs), and if you work for a hospital like Lenox Hill, there are core competency requirements there, too.

Daquan, BTW, most certainly did work in the "real world", as you define it, moonlighting in the ER at Lutheran. EMS, like transit and the NYPD--which is filled with cops that have all manner of ethnic names--is still a complex, highly demanding occupation that does not suffer fools gladly. I will however, grant you that almost all of the people in FDNY who have "exotic" names, are on the EMS side of the department--something that goes all the way back to the old Department of Hospitals--as opposed to the firefighting side, which is almost totally white and male.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 19 17:07:05 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 14:03:25 2011.

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Actually Luch is correct (oddly enough, again). Different names tend to be more popular among different socioeconomic classes, and among different races (obviously). What he made was a valid statistical statement.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 19 17:09:42 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 15:19:46 2011.

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There certainly is a correlation, but it's not the name that makes the difference to the person; it is the type of person that tends to get the name. IQ and culture are factors...

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 19 17:13:09 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 19 15:46:47 2011.

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Oh and that reminds me of another study or maybe it was the same one. Do you know what the most common reason given for people deciding to not hire black males? IIRC it was "I don't want any trouble." Black men are seen as threatening and potentially dangerous by many people that hire.

Yep. It is unfortunate that there is a statistical truth to that (as there are with almost all stereotypes).

You're right about the name issue. It is sad that a name would impede someone's progress. It is too bad that people allow group tendencies to make up their minds about individuals.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 19 17:16:02 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 16:25:11 2011.

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Way to completely miss his point (why am I not surprised?).

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 19 17:16:09 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 16:14:50 2011.

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Stereotypes persist because they are true statistically; otherwise they wouldn't have become stereotypes. What's unfortunate is that people knowledge of averages to pass judgment on individuals rather than judge individuals on their own merit.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 19 17:16:46 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 19 17:13:09 2011.

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Yes, it is sad that name could impede progress. At the same time, your name may give you an attitude or outlook on life that shapes your personality which helps determine how you may perform in life.

Remember the black female on the counter in her bikini at Burger King that upset you? You do understand, her name just couldn't be Connie or Teresa. It had to be an afro-centric name. It had to be.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 19 17:17:16 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 16:14:50 2011.

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Nice that you finally admit it.

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