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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 19 17:23:43 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 19 17:16:46 2011.

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LOL you still insist that that upset me? So your name influencing your attitude in life, huh?



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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Fred G on Tue Apr 19 17:24:33 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 19 17:16:46 2011.

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Damn, where is that video?

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 19 17:27:12 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Fred G on Tue Apr 19 17:24:33 2011.

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Right here. Knock yourself out! :p

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 19 17:30:19 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 19 16:20:56 2011.

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I'm sure that he never thanked his parents properly when they named their son Rusty Kuntz - but he went on to be successful in professional baseball.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 19 17:57:56 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 19 17:16:09 2011.

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Stereotypes persist because they are true statistically; otherwise they wouldn't have become stereotypes.

More like a grain of truth and lots of ignorance.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 19 17:59:24 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 19 17:57:56 2011.

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That's another way of saying it, yes.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by SLRT on Tue Apr 19 19:06:00 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 19 13:16:59 2011.

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It may be your American right to name your kid Hitler, but I think it's child abuse.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Apr 19 19:31:05 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 19 15:35:16 2011.

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Immigrants Anglicize to be patriotic and conform.

I wasn't aware they were moving to England.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by RockParkMan on Tue Apr 19 19:47:40 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 19 13:14:15 2011.

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Slimebag "conservatives" will do anything to advance their twisted agenda. this is why they should receive mandatory psychiatric therapy until cured.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by RockParkMan on Tue Apr 19 19:52:07 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 19 13:54:37 2011.

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I personally know an Amber who will you want her real bad on sight.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 19 19:57:26 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 19 13:54:37 2011.

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Ashley is a guy's name. I don't like it when names "switch sides." The stupidest name is Madison. Unless you have three kids and name the other two "Park" and "Lexington."

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 19 20:04:17 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 19 19:57:26 2011.

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LOL! @ Park and Lexington (both of which I can see as girl names, if not already used). I would never name my boy "Ashley". Over time enough people giving their girls boy names effectively switch the gender of the name, because no one wants to give their boys those names anymore.

I've heard it said that "Cory" is a name that will no longer be a boy's name. I've haven't met a "Cory" of either gender in awhile.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Apr 19 20:08:06 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 19 20:04:17 2011.

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This actress played a nurse in the sitcom "Empty Nest" back in the late 80's-ear;y 90's:



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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by RockParkMan on Tue Apr 19 20:14:39 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 19 20:04:17 2011.

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Cory is short for Corinne.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 19 20:21:53 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 19 20:04:17 2011.

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Lexington sounds more like a guy's name to me. Like Lex Luthor.

I would never name a girl Ashley either.

I find name gender switching a fascinating phenomenon. It's socially acceptable to give a girl a guy's name but not vice versa. It's socially acceptable for a woman to dress up in (modified) guy's clothes, but not the other way around (women can wear pants but non-Scotsmen can't wear skirts). And short haircuts on women are more accepted than long hair on men, although this is somewhat of a subversion.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 19 20:31:31 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 19 20:04:17 2011.

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I knew a guy named Cory in the 6th grade over 30 years ago. I think that was the last Cory I ever met. I don't think that it's a very common name in much of the country and I don't recall ever meeting a girl or woman named Cory.

Names that have switched or are switching in my lifetime:

Courtney
Jordan
Taylor
Shawn (my name)
Alex

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 19 20:34:43 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 19 20:21:53 2011.

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I would name a daughter Ashley, but not Hillary.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 19 20:36:01 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 19 20:31:31 2011.

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There was also a Yankee pitcher by the name of Cory - who died in a plane crash.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 19 20:38:18 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 19 20:36:01 2011.

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Yeah and Duke and the Clippers had a basketball player named Corey. I guess that I've heard of people named Cory/Corey but I've only ever met one that I can recall.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Fred G on Tue Apr 19 20:48:21 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 19 20:21:53 2011.

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I always liked the Sidney/Sydney thing.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Apr 19 20:51:51 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 19 20:31:31 2011.

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Here's one Corey Hart:



And the other Corey Hart:






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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 19 20:53:03 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Fred G on Tue Apr 19 20:48:21 2011.

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Michael has occasionally been used as a femenine name.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Fred G on Tue Apr 19 21:00:53 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 19 20:53:03 2011.

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True, like Michael Lerned of The Waltons TV show.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayMan on Wed Apr 20 11:50:13 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 19 20:21:53 2011.

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In many ways masculinity is seen as the absence of femininity (men never cry, etc...). It's OK for women to emulate men to an extent, but it is absolutely unacceptable for the reverse.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayMan on Wed Apr 20 11:51:56 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 19 20:31:31 2011.

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I'd add Leslie and Jamie to the list.

I'd say Shawn is still very much a guy's name (all the Shawns/Seans I know are guys).

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 20 13:01:13 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayMan on Wed Apr 20 11:51:56 2011.

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Especially Sean Young







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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 20 13:04:02 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 19 20:31:31 2011.

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I know a female Cory. And there's also Corazon Aquino.


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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Easy on Wed Apr 20 13:06:47 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayMan on Wed Apr 20 11:51:56 2011.

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Leslie and Jamie have been unisex my entire life.

All of the Shawn's that I have met over maybe age 40 are guys. I think the majority that I have met under age 20 are girls but I'm only talking a few people so it may be non-representative.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 20 13:08:01 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 19 17:07:05 2011.

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Actually Luch is correct (oddly enough, again)

I'm right every time I post here.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 20 13:16:14 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 20 13:08:01 2011.

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I'm right every time I post here.

You are wrong! You are an anti-semite. Show proof that you are always right or STFU. I will sue you.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 20 13:23:32 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 20 13:16:14 2011.

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Check Your E-mail!

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Apr 20 13:25:09 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 20 13:23:32 2011.

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ROTFLMFAO! Get a room.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayMan on Wed Apr 20 13:29:02 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 20 13:16:14 2011.

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Oh so THAT's what's going on. I was wondering what was up here. :p

I'm sorry the board is dead. She what happens when we're not discussing race and/or IQ?

Hey, I tried to get us talking about bi girls but no one bit!

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 20 13:34:27 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayMan on Wed Apr 20 13:29:02 2011.

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I stayed out of your interesting post on bisexual women and homosexual men, because every time I post an LGBT-related topic, or join a discussion about such a subject, I'm alaways shouted down for "constantly" harping on my "sexuality". That's why, these days, most of the gay-related subject threads here are started by people other than me. I got tired of being taken to task for even discussing such matters.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 20 13:39:35 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 20 13:23:32 2011.

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Crikey!

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayMan on Wed Apr 20 13:40:20 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 20 13:34:27 2011.

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Yeah, and I don't think you have an agenda, other than advocating for LGBT rights, which is a noble one.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 20 13:42:38 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 20 13:34:27 2011.

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I stayed out of your interesting post on bisexual women and homosexual men, because every time I post an LGBT-related topic, or join a discussion about such a subject, I'm alaways shouted down for "constantly" harping on my "sexuality".

Don't stay out of it.
The truth is meaningless if nobody knows about it.

Look at the desperation of those trying to shoot down the conservative area : teen suicide/depression study.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 20 13:49:13 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayMan on Wed Apr 20 13:40:20 2011.

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his agenda is far more radical than that.

Look at what gay groups did to e-harmony. JayZeeBMT is almost that radical.


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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 20 13:50:00 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 20 13:42:38 2011.

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The truth carries no weight here. There are too many posters here who believe homosexuality is a "Preference", or a "Lifestyle", and nothing I say will disabuse them of their opinion that homosexuality is a behavioral choice. No linking of clinical, academic, or scientific reaearch on this will convince them. No post citing the persistence of homosexuality as a heritable condition will convince them. Nothing I can say, now or in the future, will be met with anything but condescension and ridicule on this subject. I'm tired of banging my head into the wall over this.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 20 13:55:34 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 20 13:50:00 2011.

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The truth carries no weight here.

Not true. For every detractor there is somebody that learned something new but may have nothing to add comment-wise.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayMan on Wed Apr 20 14:15:20 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 20 13:50:00 2011.

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Well it is a lifestyle, inasmuch that gays typically embrace a certain culture. But take heart, in my post talking about bi girls/gay gays, I linked to a study done in Sweden of ALL the twins there that shows conclusively that in men sexual orientation is ~40% heritable. There is no self-selection bias going on which has been a criticism of previous behavioral genetic studies of sexual orientation.

There is however an epigenetic consideration. While sexual orientation clearly has genetic roots, whether one identifies as gay may depend on environmental factors. These factors need not be social and no doubt some aren't.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 20 14:22:33 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayMan on Wed Apr 20 14:15:20 2011.

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Whether one identifies as gay or not, is directly proportional to the negative consequences that person perceives he will suffer as a result of such self-identification, up to and including being disowned by his family, injury, and even summary execution. It is for this reason that the true number of gays and lesbians in contemporary society cannot be known. I suspect the actual number of gays and lesbians is quite a bit higher than reported.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 20 15:11:33 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 20 13:50:00 2011.

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The truth carries no weight here.

Especially with you! Don't be a hypocrite.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 20 15:12:26 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 20 13:55:34 2011.

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That is true. Despite my response to JayZeeBMT condemning his view of the truth, his posts ARE the truth when it comes to gays.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 20 15:54:54 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 20 13:16:14 2011.

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He's also a racist even though he claims to live in a "diverse" area.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 20 15:55:26 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 20 13:23:32 2011.

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Check your wallet!

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayMan on Wed Apr 20 17:52:34 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 20 13:42:38 2011.

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The truth is meaningless if nobody knows about it.

That's an incredible point, and I think that's the point motivating myself, you and others like Bryan Caplan or Steve Sailer to talk about facts that most people don't want to acknowledge, but are true nonetheless and have real consequences.

Look at the desperation of those trying to shoot down the conservative area : teen suicide/depression study.

Yes, people have gone out of their way to suppress the truth, and as much as I'd like to blame conservatives for it all, I cannot, liberals have been guilty of a fair share.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by JayMan on Wed Apr 20 18:06:49 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 20 14:22:33 2011.

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Yes, and I think that's a big reason so many more girls identify as bisexual, because there certainly can't be any more now than just a few years ago; bisexuality is more socially acceptable (God bless Katy Perry). The same is probably true for men to an extent.

That being said, there are some non-genetic, non-social factors that are probably at play, such as the uterine environment (later born males as more likely to be gay than their brothers, as mothers make antibodies to androgens). As well developmental noise probably plays a big role (the same reason MZ twins have different fingerprints).

But some point out the effect of cultural forces, as obviously homosexuality was more common in ancient Greece and Rome. But even then, we don't know how common homosexuality truly was back then, and the genetic makeup of the population could have even been different.

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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 20 19:43:17 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by JayMan on Wed Apr 20 17:52:34 2011.

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That's an incredible point

Thank you.

and I think that's the point motivating myself, you and others like Bryan Caplan or Steve Sailer to talk about facts that most people don't want to acknowledge, but are true nonetheless and have real consequences.

We must all do our best.


Yes, people have gone out of their way to suppress the truth, and as much as I'd like to blame conservatives for it all, I cannot, liberals have been guilty of a fair share.

True and that will never change as long as we have a politicized education system and a corporatist media industry.
While the Internet has held the promise of more truth-exposing it has also become the greatest and quickest vector of lies in history.


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Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 20 19:45:20 2011, in response to Re: Duke Rape Accuser Indicted For Murder In Boyfriend's Killing, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 20 15:12:26 2011.

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IAWTP

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