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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 19:08:46 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 18:47:55 2010.

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heh. I remember it but never drank it.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:09:09 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 18:53:11 2010.

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We have a microbrew bar in Patchogue neer me (Brickhouse), and they have a "Summer Buzz" beer that is 8 or 9%. There "normal" beers are about 5-6%.

As for bottled beer, I think they have to put it on the label on beer if they are more than 4 or 5%, as you often see the content on higher alcohol beers like Ice beers or MolsonXXX etc.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:09:59 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 18:50:50 2010.

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I think we can all agree on that. the disagreement is that "Budweiser is piss". It's not for what it is. It's not meant to be anything more than a light pilsner beer.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 19:10:03 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 18:53:11 2010.

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That's a pretty American-centric way to look at it. Just how do you imagine that beers in Mexico and England trace their roots back to American prohibition?

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:15:44 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 19:01:46 2010.

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I think you totally feel the same way about this as I do. If you drink beer with a meal, "Bud" always works. Some "tastier" or heavier beers don't.
Many of these countries that SMAZ is talking about often culturally have more wine drinkers drinking with their meals, and drink beer at different situations. I also drink different beer other than bud when I am just "having a beer". THEN I feel like something with more taste.

Also, I don't usually drink when I do things around the house, but every so often when I feel like a beer or something when I am cutting the grass or something, I much rather feel like someting light like Bud than something heavier.

Again, neither is right or wrong, it's all personal preference. To say that 'Americans drink shit beer because that is what we were spoon fed after commercialization" is absurd. I can walk into most bars or most beer stores and buy WHATEVER beer I want to, and we have been able to for many decades. Many people will grab the "Budweiser" instead of the foreign, or heavier American beers. They HAVE that choice.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 19:17:57 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 18:58:33 2010.

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Dankel is excellent. And I actually like stouts. The TRICK though is that you have to drink them warm to really appreciate their almost tar-like flavor. As to Italosnobs and Mexisnobs, I'm of Celtic heritage and I wouldn't touch that crap either. Best Italian around here is done by POLES. :)

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 19:19:23 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:02:23 2010.

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Stop with the anti-capitalistic propaganda.

It was Prohibition that was anti-capitalistic. It was crowding out good brewers that was anti-capitalistic. It was imposing heavy tariffs on imports that was anti-capitalistic.

With all the choices out there, nobody is forced to pick between "cat piss or dog piss". There is PLENTY of choice at any bar or store I have bought beer at, people don't have to buy "Bud".

That's only in the last 25 years or so. It wasn't like that between the end of Prohibition and roughly the mid 80's. A-B and Miller even had local markets monopolized. You couldn't even get many Western US beers in the Tri-State area until just a couple of decades ago.


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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:20:07 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 18:53:27 2010.

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But you probably acquired a better taste for beer by being exposed to better stuff by visiting Holland or Belgium.

Actually, I don't like Dutch or Belgium beers. They are some of my least favorite "foreign" beers. I do like German beers (some of them).

Most Americans blindly consume what is marketed to them.

False. I buy what I like when I feel like it, not because someone told me to buy it. Most bars have many taps. Most have many more bottled beers. Yes, you can almost always buy Bud in all of them, but most have plenty of choice. No one is spoon fed anything.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 19:20:29 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:15:44 2010.

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I think that we agree as well. American mass market beers aren't the tastiest of beers but they are popular for several reasons and those reasons have little to do with Americans being stupid or backwards as is being suggested.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 19:20:39 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:09:59 2010.

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Sorry, I'm on the "piss" side myself as far as those assembly-line beers go. And I wasn't impressed by Yeungling or RollingRock either. I'm not so hot on Foster's either anymore now that they're making it in Georgia. When it was brewed in Canada, it was still pretty cloe to its Aussie origins, but Ozzies laughed at people that drank that shit as well. REAL Aussies drink bitters like Cook's or Victoria.

But I'm *definitely* not in the Buttweiser column myself ... that stuff's vile.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:22:24 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 18:53:27 2010.

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This is the country that think of "Olive Garden" as fine Italian dining.

I don't think people think of Olive Garden as "fine dining" any more than they would think of TGI Fridays or Chilis as "fine dining".
Some people are looking for those fast food type of dining experiences, and there is nothing wrong with that.
They have no shortage filling up their doors. But most good "real" restaurants are packed out too.
Regardless of the stereotype you are trying to portray of "Americans", they have more sense than you give them credit for.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 19:22:53 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 18:59:15 2010.

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Shouldn't get your panties all in a bunch about the "American" ... when they talk about "American" beer over there, they ARE talking about Miller, Coors, and Buttweiser. Hell ... Sam Adams is constantly winning awards for "pretty damned tasty shit" over there. So it really isn't so much "American" they're razzing as "pisswater" ... and we DO have that market cornered. :(

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 19:24:07 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 19:00:15 2010.

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Shhhhh! Libruls are supposed to be stupid and unimaginative. :)

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:26:49 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 18:58:33 2010.

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I'm not a Eurosnob. That's like saying people are Italosnobs for not going to Olive Garden or Mexisnobs for not going to Taco Bell.

Yes you are, and you don't even realize it. And your analogy is off too. "Olive Garden" is a fast food chain restaurant based on an ethnic food. So is Tacobell, except that of course is not a sit dow restaurant like Olive Garden.

"Budweiser" is NOT a beer trying to impersonate a "beer". It IS a style of beer that many people find appealing. It's like saying you like Granny Apples better than Red Delicious. The analogy YOU are trying to make of the beer situation is tofu burgers trying to impersonate real meat burgers. THAT is NOT the case with Budweiser taste vs "German" beer taste.



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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 19:27:49 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 19:17:57 2010.

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When in Germany, I drank them at room temperature. That's how you get the taste of it.

New Belgium is an American brewer that makes a very good dunkel (to me anyway).

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CHOOSING WISELY (Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 19:28:20 2010, in response to Anheuser-Busch loses "Budweiser" trade mark in EU, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 31 02:11:25 2010.

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This might be of some help for those who absolutely must do their serious drinking with food. Heh. The right brew with the right food can make a difference ...



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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 19:30:27 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 19:19:23 2010.

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Well ... since this has gone off on the usual "drinking bad shit is my ghodgiven right and you're all commies" crap ... might as well point out WHICH political party forced the creation of all that bad shit. :)

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 19:30:33 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 19:27:49 2010.

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They make Fat Tire. I like that one.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 19:31:59 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:03:36 2010.

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Oh bullsquirt! Partisan post! :)

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 19:32:49 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:04:37 2010.

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That shit was AWFUL. And yeah, I kept the empties for a few years as "collectibles" too. They weren't. :)

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 19:34:18 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:05:30 2010.

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See if you can find some "Plzen Urquell" net time you go by a distribeer. You'll have to buy a six. You will NOT be disappointed. However, it will teach you not to call that OTHER shit "pilsner." :)

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:34:36 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 19:22:53 2010.

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I like Samuel Adams. I also like a micro beer called "Blue Point Toasted Lager" that is a Long Island brew. It actually tastes a lot like Samuel Adams.
Actually, tonight I am on my way out to a party, and I have a case of Blue Moon Summer.... "Honey Moon" on ice in the refrigerator ready to go..... THAT is what I am in the mood for tonight, lol. Actually, it's a nice summer beer "with taste". I am sure there will be a lot of Bud there too....as well as more "expensive" foreign beers. This type of party usually brings a lot of different types of tastes.

As for "Honey Moon", it tastes a little bit like Samuel Adams Summer, but it is different. I hate regular Blue Moon beer, but this Honey Moon got me hooked last year when I first tried it. I think it's brewed by Molson. I think they bought Coors (another beer I hate), and it may be brewed there.
In any event, it's not bad, and I plan to drink plenty of it tonight....

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 19:35:26 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:26:49 2010.

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If I were a Eurosnob, I would be drinking crappy English or Irish beer over good American ones. That's what actual Eurosnobs do.

You confuse my distaste for Budweiser, (or Miller or Coors) with Eurosnobishness as if Budweiser = America.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:38:09 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 19:19:23 2010.

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That's only in the last 25 years or so. It wasn't like that between the end of Prohibition and roughly the mid 80's. A-B and Miller even had local markets monopolized. You couldn't even get many Western US beers in the Tri-State area until just a couple of decades ago.

My entire "drinking" life I have had "choice". Even crappy bars have more than "Bud", and I don't ever going to a restaurant or bar that didn't have choices.
Anybody 60 years old or younger have absolutely no relevance to what you are talking about, as anyone that age ALWAYS had choice.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 19:38:49 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 19:30:33 2010.

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I like their 1554.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:39:30 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 19:30:27 2010.

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Please, this has been a fun topic without getting partisan politics in it. It would be nice to debate a topic on tastes rather than politics for a change.

And for the record, BOTH political parties have their fair share of nanniness.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:39:52 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 19:31:59 2010.

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Heh.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 19:43:43 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 18:59:15 2010.

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And that is not "right or wrong", taste is personal. SMAZ is knocking Americans for having a different taste than he has.

Americans don't have different tastes. You give an American a good product and he/she will like it. The big companies like AB, Miller, etc locked out Americans from trying out these good products for decades.

Your example is that when a starving African who's been eating maggots all his life finally tastes some good food, he must hate Africa even if the newer good food is being made by other Africans as if their is something quintessentially African with eating maggots..

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:44:27 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 19:34:18 2010.

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THAT'S IT!!! That's the Czech beer I mentioned in another post that had a light taste with a little more "kick" than Bud. That is EXACTLY what I was talking about in this post:

http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=643646

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:46:18 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 19:10:03 2010.

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Not to mention German Pilsner beers.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 19:49:44 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 19:22:53 2010.

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EXACTLY!! Give Europeans a taste of a good American beer and they will LOVE it. They don't care where it's from as long as it's good. Of course because of Bud, Miller, etc reputation for producing bum's urine, they won't give an American beer the benefit of the doubt without first tasting it.

Americans are the same way. They don't care if it's made in Colorado, Massachussetts or Bulgaria if it's good.



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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:52:10 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 19:27:49 2010.

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Actually, many foreign beers actually taste better when they are at room temperature. They are not "bad" when they are cold, but they taste better room temperature (again, it depends on the beer).
But light Pilsner beers don't....they usually taste better cold, and are putrid at room temperature.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 19:57:40 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:20:07 2010.

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Actually, I don't like Dutch or Belgium beers

Neither do I. At least not the commercial brands that I've tried. I would imagine that they may have good smaller prodiucers like the US does but I've never tried them.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:58:46 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 19:43:43 2010.

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Americans don't have different tastes. You give an American a good product and he/she will like it.

NO, Americans have a different taste than other countries. and other countries have different tastes from other countries. ALL countries have different tastes. That is culture. And what you're saying PROVES you are being snobby about this. You basically are saying that the other country's "tastes" are right, and that Americans are wrong.

The big companies like AB, Miller, etc locked out Americans from trying out these good products for decades.

Maybe for people in their 60's and 70's, but anyone younger than 50, who drinks the majority of beer, have had choice their whole lives. People who are 50 have been drinking for 30 years, and there was no shortage of choice in the 1980's.

Your example is that when a starving African who's been eating maggots all his life finally tastes some good food, he must hate Africa even if the newer good food is being made by other Africans as if their is something quintessentially African with eating maggots..

Absurd.


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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 19:59:15 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 19:49:44 2010.

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Yes, because unlike Europeans we Americans are too stupid and backwards to buy any better beer unless we are forced to do so.

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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 20:01:27 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:52:10 2010.

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They are not "bad" when they are cold, but they taste better room temperature (again, it depends on the beer).

Agreed.

But light Pilsner beers don't....they usually taste better cold, and are putrid at room temperature.

True. They start to give off a stench if they've been sitting in the glass for more than 10 minutes really. I don't like Pilsners anyway. I don't like 90% of beer in general. I'm not a wine person either. So much for my "Eurosnobishness".



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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 20:02:20 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 19:49:44 2010.

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Americans are the same way. They don't care if it's made in Colorado, Massachussetts or Bulgaria if it's good.


There you go again, making it sound like Americans are too stupid to go to a store and chouse their beer. WE HAVE that choice. Even a crappy 7-11 has beers from around the world, and most beers have plenty on tap, or bottled.

In any event, I will have to pick up on this with you guys later, I am grabbing my crappy American Blue Moon Honeymoon Summer Ale case out of the refrigerator and am headed out to a party....I promise I will drink many other beers other than Bud while I am there, as I am not in a Bud mood tonight..... :)



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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 20:04:32 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:58:46 2010.

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You basically are saying that the other country's "tastes" are right, and that Americans are wrong.

Ummm...no. This is what i said:

Americans don't have different tastes. You give an American a good product and he/she will like it.





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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 20:05:01 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 20:02:20 2010.

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WE HAVE that choice. Even a crappy 7-11 has beers from around the world, and most beers have plenty on tap, or bottled.

The last sentence was supposed to say "and most BARS have plenty on tap"

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 20:08:41 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 20:02:20 2010.

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Skip eating the maggots at the party ;->

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 20:09:55 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:44:27 2010.

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It's good shit ... that's my favorite tractor beer ... when you're out in the fields in the hot sun, going back and forth, it's the perfect brew for such boring shit. :)

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 20:13:57 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 19:08:46 2010.

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It took YEARS for my taste buds to recover. Consider your plight a mercy killing. :)

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 20:18:10 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:09:09 2010.

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Molson is also crap. Their merger with Coors was God's way of going "Ha-ha!" ... Now I'll grant that Canada's beers are a little better than American beers, but not by much. Labatt's is a little better than Molson but by a long shot, Canada's BEST beers come out of Quebec. McAuslan's for example. If you know a little German, you'll get the joke. A VERY good beer of theirs is St. Ambroise ... once you've had that, you'd prefer a Bud over a Molson's. Less of a throbbing headache the next day. :(

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 20:22:48 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 19:10:03 2010.

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Dos Eqquis (sp?) Corona and the others had the majority of their sales to America during prohibition. Same for Molsons in Canada. They didn't have pesky feds with axes breaking up their vats like they did down here. And the American market is why those beers still exist. Try some of the local brews in BOTH countries that aren't for export and you'll see. I'm not cranking wise here, but that really IS the reason ...

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 20:24:00 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:46:18 2010.

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Check the label. If it says "export" or "imported by" then it's not the same stuff they sell domestically.

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 20:29:24 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 19:27:49 2010.

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Yeah, had that once. Pretty good. I tend to drink lagers and pilzens in the summer, weisse and octoberfest in the fall and ales in winter. The ale/lager bit I have kinda backwards from what is expected to be normal since you can only homebrew lagers when you can keep the basement at 50 or below, and ales do best in warmer temps. The really dark beers tend to be a bit too heavy to have 2 or 3 of, so those usually only come out here when we have company.

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 20:33:30 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:20:07 2010.

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Dutch beer is awful. Every damned one of them gives you a pounding headache. They should stick to smoking greens, they seem to do that fairly well. Stella Artois is Belgium's Budweiser, sold by the tank car. OK, but nothing special at all.

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 20:35:04 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:34:36 2010.

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Had those too ... pretty good.

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 20:36:00 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 19:59:15 2010.

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Nah ... Americans are good little drinkers. As long as it comes with a free beer hat. :)

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 20:37:49 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 20:02:20 2010.

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Actually, one of the things that REALLY pissed me off when Ilived in the city was the beer cartel. The most exotic beer you could find inmost stores in the city was BECK's. :(

Crap, crap, crap and more crap. 12 brands was all you needed. Once I got upstate and discovered Beer Distributors, my life was never the same again. And when Jimmy Carter gave us HOME BREWING, life got delicious! :)

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