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Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by B68 slow poke on Thu Mar 26 22:04:41 2015

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On the trombone. Hope you have good speakers.
STEVE TURRE

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Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Mar 26 22:06:17 2015, in response to Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by B68 slow poke on Thu Mar 26 22:04:41 2015.

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yay !!

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Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Mar 26 22:12:11 2015, in response to Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Mar 26 22:06:17 2015.

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I'm actually a bit surprised that Blue Note released that cut the way they did without a retake. I noted a few sours on that horn.

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Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Mar 26 22:14:13 2015, in response to Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Mar 26 22:12:11 2015.

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iawtp
rudy van gleder did the recording

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Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Mar 26 22:14:27 2015, in response to Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Mar 26 22:12:11 2015.

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iawtp
rudy van gelder did the recording

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Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Mar 26 22:40:26 2015, in response to Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Mar 26 22:14:13 2015.

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Recording engineers are expected to make talent stop on a sour. Either Steve was a terror in the studio that no engineer wanted to piss off, or somebody didn't care and that's sad. Great stuff otherwise, but that horn track should have been redone.

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Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Mar 27 02:11:30 2015, in response to Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Mar 26 22:40:26 2015.

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i agree

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Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 27 03:46:07 2015, in response to Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Mar 26 22:14:27 2015.

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Sorry to say, don't know him or any of his work. I really DO wonder why that recording got to the press though, doesn't reflect well on him.

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Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by Express Rider on Fri Mar 27 05:33:38 2015, in response to Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 27 03:46:07 2015.

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Same thing - don't know his stuff - for me it's embarrassing since I follow jazz. I've been familiar with his name for years, but have nev er bought any of his albums - either as a leader or a side musician. :(

Not because I haven't wanted to, but because I've been listening to or buying other records, and my pockets aren't deep enough to buy any album I want at will.

I'm a big follower of Blue Note, had between 35-38% of their original catalog, till sold my collection in fall 2013 - hard times, needed to meet bills.

No, unfortunately I don't have good speakers - just the tiny one in the bottom of my notebook. Not enough resources now to even buy the cheapo ones you see in Staples - well, one of these days.

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Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by cortelyounext on Fri Mar 27 08:21:24 2015, in response to Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by B68 slow poke on Thu Mar 26 22:04:41 2015.

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That's nothing...

Here

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to Selkirk - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by Express Rider on Fri Mar 27 13:35:42 2015, in response to Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 27 03:46:07 2015.

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"Same thing - don't know his stuff"
- were you referring to Steve Turre or Rudy Van Gelder?
in my post that follows, I meant not knowing Steve Turre's stuff.

if you were referring to Rudy Van Gelder, he's the engineer - famously known for all his work on those classic Blue Note mid 50's and 60's sessions



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Re: to Selkirk - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Mar 27 15:48:45 2015, in response to to Selkirk - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by Express Rider on Fri Mar 27 13:35:42 2015.

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and john coltraine too

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Re: to Selkirk - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 27 16:10:19 2015, in response to to Selkirk - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by Express Rider on Fri Mar 27 13:35:42 2015.

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Yeah, meant Van Gelder. Musicians in studios spend a LONG time redoing stuff and both musicians and engineers get tired after a 14 hour recording session. When you downbeat into the key of blatt, it's time to take five. Even if that's hours before picking up on it again.

Playing horn is hard. I never could get that together myself. Lips get tired, bad notes happen. But the very last thing you want to do is keep it, then mix it down. That's what shouldn't have happened. That session should have never made it to vinyl, should have been redone.

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Re: to Selkirk - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Mar 27 18:42:51 2015, in response to Re: to Selkirk - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 27 16:10:19 2015.

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yeah

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Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Mar 27 20:09:45 2015, in response to Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by cortelyounext on Fri Mar 27 08:21:24 2015.

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The Railroading of Orenthal James Simpson



Above is final PROFF that it was NOT Orenthal James Simpson who killed Nicole Simpson and Ronald Goldman but somebody who was on BOTH the 1990 and 1994 World Cup (hereon to be referred to as the "WC") squads for the US Men's National Team (hereon to be referred to as the "MNT").

The video celebrates our qualification for Italia '90, the first time we made it to the WC in 40 years.
Now fast forward to the disturbing sequence starting at 2:30.

Four years later many of those MNT players were on the squad in the tournament hosted on American soil.
You may clearly recall that at the time of the Nicole and Ron murders the team was in Pasadena (home of one Salaam Allah) training for the upcoming WC.
They had just played a pre-tournament match at the Rose Bowl against Mexico on June 4.

OJ said that people saw an unidentified Hispanic man kill the two.

After much rigorous investigative work and comparing the rosters, and using deductive reasoning to reduce the possible suspects to one whose "glove will fit", it is with near certainty that I will declare that The Murderer can only be identified as being one and the same in the person of one Tab Ramos (currently the head coach of the US U-20 MNT).

Why was Leonardo trying to silence him only a few days later?
What did Salaam Allah know?
Where was Easy when this was happening?
He often says that people think he's Hispanic.





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Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Mar 27 20:11:08 2015, in response to Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by SMAZ on Fri Mar 27 20:09:45 2015.

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wtf ?
and why did you bring easy into this ?

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Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Mar 27 21:10:58 2015, in response to Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Mar 27 20:11:08 2015.

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Where was Easy when the murders happened?

I am trying hard to exonerate Easy by proving that it was none other than Tab Ramos who killed Nicole Simpson and Ronald Goldman.

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Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Mar 27 21:15:24 2015, in response to Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by SMAZ on Fri Mar 27 21:10:58 2015.

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ic

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Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by Express Rider on Fri Mar 27 22:39:31 2015, in response to Re: to Selkirk - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 27 16:10:19 2015.

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I'm going to have to listen to this Turre sample with good speakers then....

On the Blue Note CD re-issues, it's interesting where they include alternate takes, there are clinkers, yeah, but you can also hear them as a kind of rehearsal, or dry run - for instance, many horn melodies or phrases, sound just a bit more worked out and definately snappier in the master take.

The other interesting thing is that on a number of the alternates, it sounds as though the drummer is feeling out each melodic phrase; he's keeping a more straight ahead time through each phrase, while maybe figuring out how to play more elaborately through each one on the master - which I've heard - in the master, there's more creative subdividing of notes, volume differences etc. by the drummer, through the melodies where on the alts. his playing is more, as I said, straight ahead four / four usually....

In an interview in the late 80s or 90s I read somewhere, Van Gelder said he didn't think the alternates should be issued - his feeling being the masters/album was the final and best statement of the session.

For historical purposes, and to see how jazz; its melodies and improvisations are interpreted and composed during the immediacy of a session (the "jazz workshop"), I think it's a good idea to include the alternates.
For example, I had the Mosaic box set of 4 or 5 Blue Note LPs by avant-garde sax player Sam Rivers. Alternates were included - what was interesting was, where the playing on the masters was pretty "outside," on several of the alternates, for each tune, the playing was much more (comparatively) conservative, as each musician was feeling through the piece, probably composing/working out more advanced ideas in their heads as they were playing more "inside," on the alterntes.

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Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by Express Rider on Fri Mar 27 22:47:25 2015, in response to Re: to Selkirk - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 27 16:10:19 2015.

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I'm going to have to listen to this Turre sample with good speakers then....

On the Blue Note CD re-issues, it's interesting where they include alternate takes, there are clinkers, yeah, but you can also hear them as a kind of rehearsal, or dry run - for instance, many horn melodies or phrases, sound just a bit more worked out and definately snappier in the master take.

The other interesting thing is that on a number of the alternates, it sounds as though the drummer is feeling out each melodic phrase; he's keeping a more straight ahead time through each phrase, while maybe figuring out how to play more elaborately through each one on the master - which I've heard - in the master, there's more creative subdividing of notes, volume differences etc. by the drummer, through the melodies where on the alts. his playing is more, as I said, straight ahead four / four usually....

In an interview in the late 80s or 90s I read somewhere, Van Gelder said he didn't think the alternates should be issued - his feeling being the masters/album was the final and best statement of the session.

For historical purposes, and to see how jazz; its melodies and improvisations are interpreted and composed during the immediacy of a session (the "jazz workshop"), I think it's a good idea to include the alternates.
For example, I had the Mosaic box set of 4 or 5 Blue Note LPs by avant-garde sax player Sam Rivers. Alternates were included - what was interesting was, where the playing on the masters was pretty "outside," on several of the alternates, for each tune, the playing was much more (comparatively) conservative, as each musician was feeling through the piece, probably composing/working out more advanced ideas in their heads as they were playing more "inside," on the alterntes.

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Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 27 23:27:59 2015, in response to Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by Express Rider on Fri Mar 27 22:39:31 2015.

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Oh, you'd be AMAZED at how much tape got sliced, diced and into the dumpster in recording sessions back then. That's why cartons of Scotch 141 or 111 came in cartons of 100 rolls. :)

Musicians would insist on turning bad sessions into confetti. I have to assume though since that one made it to video that it was actually auditioned, approved and released. That part shouldn't have happened. Blooper reels are obvious as to why they got released and never contain the whole hoedown.

As to outtakes, sure. You mark those up as jams and package as such. One thing about jazz, if it sounds exactly the same in more than one performance, then it ain't jazz. But at the same time, key of blatt? Nope. You stomp that tape until it's confetti. (grin)

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SalaamRe: to Selkirk - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL. + Coltrane info.

Posted by Express Rider on Sat Mar 28 00:59:54 2015, in response to Re: to Selkirk - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Mar 27 15:48:45 2015.

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yep - wonderful records!!!
Coltrane was recorded several times by Van Gelder on Blue Note, and then I believe later during the 1960's on Impulse.

the album "Blue Trane" on Blue Note is classic - if you only have one Blue Note Coltrane album this is the one to get. Maybe you already have it?

If not pick it up, asap, you will not be disappointed!! - and that's an understatement!! :)

Rudy Van Gelder's original studio was in Hackensack, NJ at this parents' house - many 1950s Blue Note sessions were recorded here.

Later for the classic 60s Blue Note sessions and other he recorded, he had a newer and more elaborate studio built in Englewood Cliffs, NJ

He is known for his classic sound - very "live" drums and a round and full sound for the horns...

I will email you shortly with some more recording info for Coltrane's Blue Note sessions.

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Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by Express Rider on Sat Mar 28 01:30:31 2015, in response to Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 27 23:27:59 2015.

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"Oh, you'd be AMAZED at how much tape got sliced, diced and into the dumpster...."***

Believe me, I've heard & read many stories over the years - it'd make your hair stand on end what was lost.

One example - there were tapes of a live date with Coltrane/Dolphy recorded at Columbia U's WKCR that somehow got mistakenly erased (publicly acknowledged in a magazine article - not word of mouth or urban legend).

And in rock - Pete Townsend stated in his bio, that he told one of his staff to BURN ENTIRELY well over 100 reels of tape from the Who's 1969 U.S. tours, when the band was at a significant peak - he said he felt it was too much go through to listen - he told the guy, burn it in the back garden, all of it, and if any of it ever got out on bootleg the guy's would be in big trouble..... well, to this day Townsends regrets that he ordered this done, citing it as one of the worst decisions he ever could have made.....

***and to keep it on transit - I and probably others on subchat, have heard directly from an individual formerly with a major NY transit agency, that they saw one of a kind primary source documents from NY subway history being thrown into dumpsters at a certain main location - and being done with such volume that they couldn't stop or override it; and they weren't notified of it in the first place - docs. that would have made impressive, second-to-none exhibits at a rapid transit museum....

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Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Mar 28 02:00:28 2015, in response to Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by Express Rider on Sat Mar 28 01:30:31 2015.

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No need to keep it on transit over here, but appreciate the effort and agree. In my own realm, I owned a radio station and when our license for it expired, I ended up with the entire collection of 12 years of "promotional copy - do not sell" vinyl from 1969 to 1978 and managed to hold onto that as well as about 600 reels of taped shows we did.

Sadly, when our house was destroyed in Hurricane Irene, had to move out of there into a much smaller place than what we had. Ended up selling ALL of the records to a guy that came up from Brooklyn to get them and all those tapes ended up in a dumpster from water damage. They were not recoverable since they were kept in boxes in the basement. That's one loss I deeply regret as we had some serious classics from interviews with John Lennon and many others, Zacherle shows, actual plays and "old fashioned radio" stuff that we did with our own staff and writers and a large amount of other classic stuff. WXVU-FM was one of the most unique and eclectic radio stations that ever existed.

We were a radio station that hired ONLY musicians because we insisted on musical segues that flowed from one cut to another where you couldn't tell where one tune ended and the next one began. Only musicians could make that concept fit knowing the music that intimately. But what made it worse was that we did a lot of LIVE programming with musicians (especially jazz) where our crew had the legends come into our studios and jam with them in front of live mics. It was that which I regret losing the most. You can't put an insurance value on such unique stuff. :(

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Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Mar 28 03:19:47 2015, in response to Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by Express Rider on Fri Mar 27 22:39:31 2015.

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i like sam rivers
he was also very good and i own lps of him too

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Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Mar 28 03:25:55 2015, in response to Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by Express Rider on Fri Mar 27 22:47:25 2015.

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i am lucky to own most of what RVG blue note and impusle jazz sessions on cd and record albums
i even recorded blue mitchell azar lawerence and many others here

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Re: SalaamRe: to Selkirk - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL. + Coltrane info.

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Mar 28 03:29:14 2015, in response to SalaamRe: to Selkirk - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL. + Coltrane info., posted by Express Rider on Sat Mar 28 00:59:54 2015.

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greatest recorded music ever the RVG series
IAWTP

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Re: SalaamRe: to Selkirk - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL. + Coltrane info.

Posted by Express Rider on Sat Mar 28 04:36:22 2015, in response to Re: SalaamRe: to Selkirk - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL. + Coltrane info., posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Mar 28 03:29:14 2015.

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yes. I agree back! :)

I had a couple/ several of the RVG's on CD. They were pretty good, and if I'm remembering the right re-issue series (there was more than one Blue Note "up-grade" re-issue series IIRC) the updated liner notes were informative.

Try and find: Andrew Hill - Point of Departure - includes Joe Henderson, Eric Dolphy, (saxes), Kenny Dorham (trumpet) Richard Davis (bass), Tony Williams - drums
- this is a high energy album of music, at a "roiling" level - not avant garde outside stuff, but 60's progressive "hard bop and beyond" style - that has energy like waves crashing over a sea wall.
- I love this album!!

Two other albums (at least) in the same high energy type of matierial are Art Blakey albums: "Free for All" and "Mosaic"
Dynamite! You have to get them.

For early hard bop/ late 40s bop (among other) - get Blue Note releases: 1) Miles Davis, volume 1 and volume 2 the music for these two sessions have been re-sequenced chronologically. 2) Fats Navarro volume 1 and volume 2 - same: music tracks re-ordered by session date.

I've been listening actively to jazz since about mid 1970. I'm 64 (still can't believe it). After all these years, it's nice to know a lot of stuff about jazz and be able to pass it on to others. And, still, I'm convinced I've just scratched the surface, and still have a lot more to learn.....

music is the doorway to happiness (one of them anyway), another is of course, learning about the subway system...

Hope these recommendations are helpful. You live on the west coast?
Do you shop at Amoeba records?
best, Express Rider



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Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by Express Rider on Sat Mar 28 04:42:00 2015, in response to Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Mar 28 03:25:55 2015.

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Nice!!!
You have most of the RVG's cool! I had many of the Coltrane Impulse albums as well. There's a book about the history of the Impulse label by Ashley Kahn. Maybe you've seen it?

Blue Mitchell I've only heard a little of - he recorded during the 60s a lot with Horace Silver if I remember correctly.

Azar lawrence - woo hoo!!!! What an intense player!!! Saw him with McCoy Tyner in '73 or '74 in Boston - played very much like mid 60's Coltrane when I saw him.
He has released an album sometime within the last year or so - I read about it but haven't heard it.

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Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by Express Rider on Sat Mar 28 04:45:32 2015, in response to Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Mar 28 02:00:28 2015.

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sorry to hear about your loss of such irreplaceable music.... :(
like the jazz library of alexandria....

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Re: SalaamRe: to Selkirk - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL. + Coltrane info.

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Mar 28 04:48:23 2015, in response to Re: SalaamRe: to Selkirk - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL. + Coltrane info., posted by Express Rider on Sat Mar 28 04:36:22 2015.

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most of the rare jazz i collected came from amazon like miles davis / john coltraine etc and tower records , borders records also
i am aware of Amoeba records but sometimes shop a poo bah records here in pasadena , we dont live in los angels or hollywood
but i do live in the west coast
i own all of art blakeys RVG recordings on cd including the out of print ones
also own lee morgan ,jimmy smith ,wayne shorter , mccoy tyner, andrew hill and many others as well all recorded by rudy van gleder
most of the artists you list i have in my collections on cd or lp
thank you very much
salaam allah

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Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Mar 28 04:49:17 2015, in response to Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by Express Rider on Sat Mar 28 04:42:00 2015.

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yeah i recorded azar lawerence myself in the early 1970s
he was awesome

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Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by Express Rider on Sat Mar 28 04:49:49 2015, in response to Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Mar 28 03:19:47 2015.

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:) oh yeah! I love his stuff too. I had the mosaic box set of all his Blue Note LPs - unequaled material.
Saw him a couple of times - once at his place, Studio Rivbea in NYC, early 70s, Boston - duets with Dave Holland (boy, was that a great night), and as a guest artist with a friend of mine's big band in Boston as well.
it is good to share - talk about jazz...!

even though I had to sell my collection, fall 2013, the musical memorie are all in my mind, and of course I am rebuilding my collection bit by bit

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Re: SalaamRe: to Selkirk - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL. + Coltrane info.

Posted by Express Rider on Sat Mar 28 04:52:26 2015, in response to Re: SalaamRe: to Selkirk - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL. + Coltrane info., posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Mar 28 04:48:23 2015.

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you're welcome!
glad to hear that you also have such an extensive collection to enjoy!! :)

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Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Mar 28 04:54:55 2015, in response to Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by Express Rider on Sat Mar 28 04:49:49 2015.

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yeah i consider myself fortunate to have my collection
i have one room full of reel to reel tapes and cds and albums too
i am transfering my reel to reels to mini disc then to cd
and recording my albums to mini disc then to cd too
my sony tc 350 still works well and my ampex rell to reel recorders
thanks
i understand re building a collection

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Re: SalaamRe: to Selkirk - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL. + Coltrane info.

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Mar 28 04:55:33 2015, in response to Re: SalaamRe: to Selkirk - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL. + Coltrane info., posted by Express Rider on Sat Mar 28 04:52:26 2015.

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well i consider myself fortunate to have this all

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Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by 3-9 on Sat Mar 28 13:51:06 2015, in response to Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Mar 28 02:00:28 2015.

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*OUCH*

What a catastrophic loss. So irreplaceable. Would've so great to have had all that digitized. (coulda, woulda, shoulda).

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Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Mar 28 14:29:27 2015, in response to Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Mar 28 02:00:28 2015.

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most of my reel to reel stock has survived so i am now transfering it to mini disc and then to audio cd
vhs to dvd too

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Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by Express Rider on Sat Mar 28 16:10:13 2015, in response to Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Mar 28 14:29:27 2015.

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you are lucky - there is always a danger of reel to reel flaking after some period of time.
- for re-issues of classic albums, as you probably know, there is a method where master tapes are "baked" for some period of time, in order to re-attach in some way, the emulsion to the tape.


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Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Mar 28 17:46:37 2015, in response to Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by Express Rider on Sat Mar 28 04:45:32 2015.

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Still have my memories of it all, nothing can take THAT away. :)

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Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Mar 28 17:47:18 2015, in response to Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by 3-9 on Sat Mar 28 13:51:06 2015.

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Agreed. The one thing that I didn't have was the time to do all of that along with the media to put it on. It was a huge collection.

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Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Mar 28 17:48:30 2015, in response to Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by Express Rider on Sat Mar 28 16:10:13 2015.

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Yep. And there's the danger that the oxide will adhere to the wrong side of the plastic too. Scotch 141 was pretty good for being recovered that way, 111 not so much. :(

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