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Re: to Selkirk & salaamallah - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Fri Mar 27 22:39:31 2015, in response to Re: to Selkirk - Re: Aside from it ALL. JAZZ man steve turre says it ALL., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 27 16:10:19 2015. I'm going to have to listen to this Turre sample with good speakers then....On the Blue Note CD re-issues, it's interesting where they include alternate takes, there are clinkers, yeah, but you can also hear them as a kind of rehearsal, or dry run - for instance, many horn melodies or phrases, sound just a bit more worked out and definately snappier in the master take. The other interesting thing is that on a number of the alternates, it sounds as though the drummer is feeling out each melodic phrase; he's keeping a more straight ahead time through each phrase, while maybe figuring out how to play more elaborately through each one on the master - which I've heard - in the master, there's more creative subdividing of notes, volume differences etc. by the drummer, through the melodies where on the alts. his playing is more, as I said, straight ahead four / four usually.... In an interview in the late 80s or 90s I read somewhere, Van Gelder said he didn't think the alternates should be issued - his feeling being the masters/album was the final and best statement of the session. For historical purposes, and to see how jazz; its melodies and improvisations are interpreted and composed during the immediacy of a session (the "jazz workshop"), I think it's a good idea to include the alternates. For example, I had the Mosaic box set of 4 or 5 Blue Note LPs by avant-garde sax player Sam Rivers. Alternates were included - what was interesting was, where the playing on the masters was pretty "outside," on several of the alternates, for each tune, the playing was much more (comparatively) conservative, as each musician was feeling through the piece, probably composing/working out more advanced ideas in their heads as they were playing more "inside," on the alterntes. |
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