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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Aug 24 22:52:40 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Aug 24 22:36:53 2007.

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You doubt what? That the passengers are a bunch of angels, respect the buses with the drivers are doing all the disabling of equipment? Do you think the drivers like driving around junk all day? Why don't you take the test and become a driver to experience the fun? Prove driver vandalism to NYCT with documentation. As I've explained to you many times before, the lack of maintance at Castleton and Yukon is a direct result of too many buses competing for too little maintance space, especially time on the lifts. You need not one, but two new depots. You will have crappy buses till that is done. Do you think I like seeing the pristine upper 9600's from FLAT being brutalised by your fellow SI'ers? The buses in the past few weeks you've seen in good shape are clearly ones that just came out of the base shop. Do the operators scratch the rear windows too?

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Aug 24 22:52:49 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Aug 24 22:29:28 2007.

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When you have an entire fleet though (well minus the #96xx Nova fleet just sent in to Yukon from JAM[?]) that has it's rear doors disabled, I think the issue in hand should be rather appearant.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Aug 24 23:02:02 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Aug 24 22:52:49 2007.

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As I said in an earlier post, many FP RTS' have the rear door tape disabled too. And we don't cry over it, we deal with it. It is not unique to SI. In order to make service, it has to be done. I ask again a specific question: would you rather have no bus or a quick fix instead by disconnecting the control?

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Aug 24 23:07:10 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Aug 24 22:52:40 2007.

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My issue is that there are local bus fleets in other boroughs that are brutalized daily (scratching windows, graffiti, vandalism) much worse than the SI fleets are, yet those depots take far more proper care of their buses rather than Yukon and Castleton. Both depots show that they can actually take care of their buses, because there is in fact, quite a few buses that are in excellent condition and the numbers seem to be rising but it's still a small percentage of the fleet. The bells are disabled all too frequently in SI and that's not something that's in the hands of the passengers, that's the B/Os action. I myself am looking forward to the day that the new depot opens on Staten Island..but there should still be preliminary measures taken by the MTA about the condition of the buses.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Aug 24 23:37:18 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by RyogaRidesTheMTA on Fri Aug 24 20:51:12 2007.

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Yeah, too bad the X25 does use MCIs (or for that matter exists). Also, X90 riders aren't as bad as the others, but once MCIs hit that route...

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Aug 24 23:43:24 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Aug 24 22:27:14 2007.

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Wouldn't the driver or other passengers see the kids doing the vandalism and take action?

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Aug 24 23:46:17 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by P-rad M on Fri Aug 24 15:39:42 2007.

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The only Orion Vs I do not like are those crappy Castleton Orion Vs.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Aug 24 23:51:14 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Aug 24 23:43:24 2007.

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I remember riding a crowded S59 down to the train after leaving the mall, and some kids pulled out a knife and started scratching away on the window. Some guy sitting next to them, immediately reprimanded them for their actions and they put the knife away.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Aug 24 23:53:05 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Aug 24 23:51:14 2007.

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I cannot believe they had the nerve to do that, I think I would call the cops if they did that to show them that they're not that slick.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Aug 24 23:55:04 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Aug 24 23:46:17 2007.

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There can be nothing worse than the original 1995 fleet at CAS..not the ex-CS fleet though. The 1995 O5 fleet easily reminds of the worst of the ex-Green Lines Buses...

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by R30A on Sat Aug 25 06:12:56 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Aug 24 22:36:53 2007.

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Dont be ridiculous.

I have been on 5 SI busses in the past 2 years, and at least 2 of them had working rear doors, (although 1 really didnt.)

BTW... Air Assist doesnt always work in the other boros either

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 25 10:07:13 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Aug 24 23:07:10 2007.

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You have selective reading comprehension. I've addressed these issues in the last few posts I've made on this subject. You have no proof that the drivers are disabling the bells. Have you seen them doing this? If you have, why haven't you
reported this to NYCT in a snail mail letter with you name and address rather than ranting about it here? How can they do this and drive at the same time? I've asked you for documentation of this and you refuse to provide photographic proof. I've also said in previous posts that the few buses that are in excellent condtion just came out of the base shop. The thuggish riders will vandalism them shortly. I've also said that both depots have too many buses to maintain adaquetely maintain which you again refuse to acknowlege. You have absolutely no credibility.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by David on Sat Aug 25 10:08:17 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Aug 24 23:37:18 2007.

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Route X25 uses MCIs because the X25 trips are made using X29 drivers. In the morning, a driver will make an X29 trip, deadhead to Grand Central, and make an X25 trip. In the afternoon, a driver will deadhead to Vesey Street & North End Avenue, make an X25 trip, and deadhead to E. 57th Street & Madison Avenue to make an X29 trip. For X25 trips to use something other than MCI buses, they would have to have their own buses (at a high cost to NYCT), unless a way could be found to attach them to X90 trips.

David

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 25 10:11:46 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Aug 24 23:51:14 2007.

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He was very foolish taking on these thugs. Suppose they used the knife on him? Can't these kids use the knife to cut the bell strips too? Would SIR or Osmosis do the same thing? I doubt it.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 25 10:15:25 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Aug 24 23:43:24 2007.

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What would you do if you were the driver? Put yourself into his shoes. He calls the cops, gets the kids arrested, has reports to do, gets the depot manager pissed because of the paperwork and delay to service and more importantly the kids remember the drivers face and look for him to so they can retaliate against him after the judge lets them off.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 25 10:17:29 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by R30A on Sat Aug 25 06:12:56 2007.

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Thank you. Maybe you can get thru to his brain. Because I can't.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Aug 25 11:33:39 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by R30A on Sat Aug 25 06:12:56 2007.

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I'm definitely not being ridiculous, it's the dead on truth. That's just 5 buses in 2 years..and the two you rode that had it working definitely had to be a Nova, TMC or that Orion V batch that was swapped with another depot and CAS.

I've ridden well over a hundred different Staten Island buses in this year alone..and you can expect none of the Orion Vs to have them working. The Novas now have them disabled or are gradually becoming disabled (#96xx fleet) and the TMCs..had quite few that did work but they're all scrapped now.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Aug 25 11:50:03 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 25 10:07:13 2007.

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Bill, I've been on a countless number of Castleton and Yukon buses that have had disabled bells. They'll disable it, in the middle of the route, they'll disable it at the ferry. I've reported it to the MTA twice this month, with the date, the time, the bus number and the bus run..and all I've gotten was the "MTA New York City Transit is committed to providing safe, courteous, reliable, and accessible bus service....." letter.

And btw..about the bell issue and you thinking I have no proof, I didn't even have to snap pictures..just view these two shots taken by two different people.

To add to that...the caption in the first shot says "One of the many memorable things about living on Staten Island."...I had to laugh at that one because the bells being disabled is an all too familiar situation for Staten Islanders.

S78 bus..1999 Orion V..St. George Ferry Terminal

-http://www.flickr.com/photos/anaphoto/1126924461/

S74/S76 bus...1999 Orion V...Richmond Hill Rd & Todt Hill Rd


-http://www.flickr.com/photos/20996043@N00/380074579/

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 25 12:11:49 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by R30A on Sat Aug 25 06:12:56 2007.

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The air assist though is more likely than not to work. But that should be irrelevant---so long as the LIFTS are maintained to comply with ADA regulations.

I'm sorry, but air assist would be secondary to me to lift maintenance. But the question is, is Staten Island Division having a priority list of what needs to be maintained first? That list would include such things as: head/tail lights, brakes, steering, interior lights, and the lift.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 25 12:13:26 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Aug 24 22:36:53 2007.

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However, occasionally, some things have to be prioritized. Now, if the LIFTS are broken, then THAT would be a problem if a W/C customer ends up turned away (the Justice Department has already gotten involved).

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by caine515 on Sat Aug 25 12:35:49 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 25 12:11:49 2007.

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lift maintance..priority number 1. If it doesn't work the bus DOESN'T leave the garage. No if, and's or but about it. All depots have this order.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 25 12:37:41 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by caine515 on Sat Aug 25 12:35:49 2007.

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The ADA, however, does say that if a bus has a broken lift, the next bus can pick the passenger up if it is less than 30 minutes away. If it is MORE than 30 minutes away, then another bus must be sent to pick up the customer who needs the lift.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 25 12:38:06 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 25 12:37:41 2007.

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This also applies if the last bus of the night has a broken lift---where another bus must be sent.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by 9 local on Sat Aug 25 13:43:47 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by caine515 on Sat Aug 25 12:35:49 2007.

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And if the lift gets stuck out, you're probably should head on back to the garage and try not to get pulled over.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 25 13:46:53 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Aug 25 11:50:03 2007.

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What do you mean by "They'll disable it, in the middle of the route, they'll disable it at the ferry...." Have you ever thought that your accusation of the operator disabling the bell really is that the stop request system simply broke in route? Why would the operator vandalise the strips and then put up signs for the riders to call out the stops? The photos you put up does not mean the operators are disabling the bells! All you are proving is that the bells don't work in that bus! Are you identifying yourself by name to NYCT or just by some annonymous Email address? All you are doing is reporting disabled bells to NYCT. Please answer a simple question: have you physically seen operators vandlaise the strips and if you have, did you report this fact to NYCT?

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 25 13:49:56 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Aug 25 11:33:39 2007.

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But why do you blame the drivers for them not working? If they are breaking the air assist due to vandalism, I want pictures of proof!

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by 9 local on Sat Aug 25 13:52:12 2007, in response to Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Chipper10 on Thu Aug 23 22:18:13 2007.

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I am very surprised Joel hasn't started ranting about the S89 yet.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 25 13:55:18 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by 9 local on Sat Aug 25 13:43:47 2007.

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If the lift gets stuck out, the bus is unable to move. Brakes are applied to activate the lift and they can't be released till the lift is retracted.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by 9 local on Sat Aug 25 14:05:28 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 25 13:55:18 2007.

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Yeah, but if the lift gets stuck and you absolutely cannot get it back in, then you have a problem.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 25 14:20:17 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by 9 local on Sat Aug 25 14:05:28 2007.

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Then the bus is road-called and taken OOS there, until a road mechanic can fix it. Then it gets moved back to the garage.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 25 14:21:34 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by 9 local on Sat Aug 25 14:05:28 2007.

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You have to call for a road truck, but it cannot be driven back to the depot in that condition, which is what you implied.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Aug 25 15:34:23 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 25 13:46:53 2007.

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Not once have I accused the drivers of vandalizing anything. They don't stop the bus..snip the strips, and keep it moving. They simply disable the bell system and it causes distress among the riders, especially during rush hours. Buses get sent out with disabled bell systems all the time..I doubt it's the B/Os doing that rather than that simple issue of lack of maintenance

A few days ago..the 6:30pm S94 bus out St. George..Orion V #6272, we were coming down Henderson Avenue and the Stop Request was working properly all before that...but he disabled it..and stated that you have to yell "Next Stop!". But that's a whole different issue..as we were trailing behind a local S44 bus until Jewett Av..and maybe he wanted to pass it...although he never did.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Aug 25 15:37:19 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 25 14:20:17 2007.

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That seems to happen a lot in Staten Island...all along Richmond Terrace. I was once waiting for the S54 (which shown up 1 hour late) at Broadway & Richmond Terrace one Friday afternoon, and I managed to spot 3 different Orion Vs being towed back towards Castleton within and hour and 20 minutes time frame.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 25 15:53:54 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Aug 25 15:37:19 2007.

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That seems odd that so many buses go out on the road, only to end up on the back of an MTA or Mike's Towing wrecker.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Aug 25 16:04:31 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by caine515 on Sat Aug 25 12:35:49 2007.

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Not true, I have been on plenty of buses where the driver refused to pick up a passenger due to a broken lift (all of the incidents related to MTA Bus).

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Aug 25 16:10:45 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 25 10:15:25 2007.

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The driver shouldn't be a driver in the first place if he cannot face the public, I've heard numerous stories of drivers taking on passengers, as a matter of face, yesterday my M15 Limited driver was about to beat the crap out of someone but the passenger walked away.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Aug 25 16:12:23 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 25 10:11:46 2007.

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*Sigh*, I meant call the cops without them knowing, I'm not the type to shout my cell phone conversations so everyone could hear it.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Aug 25 16:17:47 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Aug 25 16:10:45 2007.

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*fact

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 25 16:44:34 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Aug 25 15:34:23 2007.

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I'm going to ask you again: How do you know the stop requested system simply malfunctioned rather than the driver disabling it? What is the justification for the driver to shut it off and make the journey more difficult for him and the riders?

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 25 16:50:11 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Aug 25 15:34:23 2007.

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In looking back to post #67159, the dude RyogaRidesTheMTA was the guy accusing the bus drivers of vandalism. I think he should continue this debate with me.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 25 16:51:07 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Aug 25 16:04:31 2007.

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"Refused" should be changed to "unable to".

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Aug 25 16:55:37 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 25 16:51:07 2007.

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As you wish: Not true, I have been on plenty of buses where the driver unable to to pick up a passenger due to a broken lift (all of the incidents related to MTA Bus).

Is that good enough?

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 25 17:00:58 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Aug 25 16:10:45 2007.

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Maybe if you were a bus operator or had a job dealing with the public you'd understand. It's not a question of the driver being able or unable to face the public in the course of his normal duties. But the driver is not to do something which could put his personal safety on the line. Which exactly what could happen when a rider who the driver had arrested for an infraction comes back to settle the score with the driver. The driver is not armed to defend himself, and he is not a law enforcement officer.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by JAzumah on Sat Aug 25 17:02:38 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Rail Blue on Fri Aug 24 18:35:22 2007.

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:)

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 25 17:05:32 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Aug 25 16:12:23 2007.

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What do you mean by calling the cops without them knowing? When the cops show up, the driver has to point the perps out to the cops, so now the thugs know who banged them in. What is to stop them from retaliating against the driver next week or next month? You couldn't care less because you are not the driver and as a rider you don't care becasue there is another driver to take his place if that driver gets injured or killed by retaliation.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Aug 25 17:07:47 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 25 17:00:58 2007.

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Whenever I happen to be waiting at the S59/S79 stop and S44/S61 terminus that sits right next to Yukon Depot..by K-Mart..I sometimes have an urge to ask the depot manager or whoever is standing outside with the clipboard..if they are actually fine with sending out such crappy buses into service. You can just see them sitting there..with sparkling paint jobs but the windows are scratched up like all hell..the blue carpet seats are rather black and grey....there's signs plastered on some bus windows that state No A/C or No Bells..and they act as though everything is fine.

I'm not placing any blame on anyone...but this is just my observations while waiting for a bus there.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by 9 local on Sat Aug 25 17:09:39 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by JAzumah on Sat Aug 25 17:02:38 2007.

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Had a feeling you'd pipe up eventually.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Aug 25 17:12:02 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 25 16:44:34 2007.

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In the "old days", some drivers would shut the bell off (there is a toggle switch next to the driver seat) when passengers would abuse the bell by ringing it several times. That was back in the days before the "Advanced Design Buses" came and had the feature limiting passengers to one bell ring (along with a "Stop Requested" sign) while the doors were closed.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by JAzumah on Sat Aug 25 17:12:50 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 25 13:55:18 2007.

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There IS a bypass. I've seen a bus moving down the street (albeit with hazards on and an escort) with a wheelchair lift stuck in the up position. Most drivers will never move a bus that way for obvious reasons.

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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island.

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 25 17:16:35 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Aug 25 17:12:02 2007.

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I am well aware of that.

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