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Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Aug 25 17:19:38 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 25 17:05:32 2007. I meant calling the cops without them hearing about my conversation with the cops so I won't get beat up. Also, why does the driver have to point them out, more likely than not, the passengers will assist in arresting the criminals.If jail hadn't taught the criminals a lesson and they attack the driver again then I'm pretty sure justice will be served and they'll go to jail again. Anyways, I doubt most drivers are not aware of these dangers and that they put these factors into deciding whether they want to be a driver or not. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 25 17:28:21 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Aug 25 17:19:38 2007. Whoever points them out will have to identify themselves by name and address and file a complaint to the cops otherwise the cops will do nothing. |
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Posted by P-rad M on Sat Aug 25 19:55:21 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by 9 local on Sat Aug 25 13:52:12 2007. Same here....Maybe he knows he doesn't have much a chance anymore? |
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Posted by Q101 E. MIDTOWN 2 AV on Sat Aug 25 20:16:42 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by P-rad M on Sat Aug 25 19:55:21 2007. Maybe, he hasn't posted on silive lately either. Coincidentially, neither have karanlate nor karanearly. Thank God, though I do miss those arguments. |
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Posted by RyogaRidesTheMTA on Sat Aug 25 20:53:20 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 25 16:50:11 2007. What debate? I'm just doing like everyone else is doing--stating what they've either heard or seen.In the past here on BusChat, people always talk about drivers urinating in the rear stairwell on their layovers, or stealing OEM bulkhead numbers (West Farms seems to be the only depot taking preventative measures by putting the numbers on screwed-in plates in the bulkhead rather that decals), or voluntarily leaving the drivers seat a mess for the next driver. Well, I'm doing the same. I'm stating that it appears that it's no secret that drivers vandalize buses at LIB (and as I've stated they've taken steps to prevent it), and rumor has it that Castleton and Yukon operators do the same. I stated before, in my post, which number Bill has provided: "I know the stop request tape have been fixed and covered with a box around the cords, but in two separate buses I've been on, the operator has the bells locked out, and one actually admitted to keeping them off (after I asked him to turn them on) because "they slow [him] down." I never said anything about drivers cutting the stop request cords, though come to think of it, there might be a connection between drivers like the aforementioned person (voluntarily disabling the system via the switch) and the cords being cut. What I did say about driver vandalism is that drivers in Staten Island are known to cut the rear door cords since the 2 seconds it takes for the doors to close after air assist mode is too long and they'd rather have the doors close instantly. Drivers at LIB give that same reason why they do it (I have a family member who works at LIB and hears that statement from drivers who have cut cords), and it probably goes the same for drivers in Staten Island. I'm not desiring to go into any debates about driver vandalism, I'm just stating what I've heard and patterns I've observed. I will however, reiterate that I have already given a quote from a driver who turns off the stop request system at his own will, and that drivers are prone to do anything--though I wish they'd think about the consequences it has on the riders they carry. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 25 20:54:39 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by P-rad M on Sat Aug 25 19:55:21 2007. Or maybe he's getting his case together. This is his job, you know.MTA outta NJ!!!!!11 |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 25 20:55:08 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Aug 23 22:33:43 2007. IAWTP |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 25 20:56:21 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by vfrt on Fri Aug 24 12:38:16 2007. NYCTA buses are not allowed by law on Todt Hill because they would lower property valuesDoes that mean they're gonna build rail there so that the property values can go up? |
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Posted by JAzumah on Sat Aug 25 21:16:02 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 25 20:54:39 2007. Some people don't get that fact yet. They swear that they know how to run a bus company even though they have never done it. It's better to let everyone stay in the dark. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 25 21:26:27 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by vfrt on Fri Aug 24 17:26:53 2007. Depends on when it was passed in 1907...the law may already have expired. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 25 21:31:02 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by vfrt on Fri Aug 24 12:38:16 2007. However, as cited prior, the law will expire at year's end at the latest...and here is the rub...at the time of the law, the buses were privately operated. But today, the buses are owned by the STATE, and the NYCTA could argue that state-owned routes are outside the scope of city law. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 25 21:33:58 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Fri Aug 24 17:36:59 2007. Or, the MTA can simply let the law sunset. It is set to expire at year's end. |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Aug 25 23:59:26 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 25 21:33:58 2007. Lol...at the thought of those scratched up Orion Vs, making their way up Todt Hill Road spewing out diesel fumes pass these million dollar homes. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Aug 26 00:09:48 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Aug 25 23:59:26 2007. Frightening...isn't it? Although, IMO, I wouldn't be surprised if it was an express line routed that way, such as select X15 runs. |
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Posted by Deaks on Sun Aug 26 15:01:15 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Aug 25 16:10:45 2007. The driver shouldn't be a driver in the first place if he cannot face the public....When you have been a bus driver, you may have a clue what you're talking about. There is a huge difference between 'facing the public' and dealing with a horde of animal-like schoolkids - surely this is obvious.... |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Aug 26 15:12:27 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Deaks on Sun Aug 26 15:01:15 2007. Wow lol, school kids are the public and I've been in plenty of situations in which drivers threatened to take the bus out of service if kids do not behave properly. |
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Posted by Deaks on Sun Aug 26 15:24:06 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Aug 26 15:12:27 2007. Wow lol, school kids are the public and I've been in plenty of situations in which drivers threatened to take the bus out of service if kids do not behave properly.Wow lol, how's that relevant to what you said before? |
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Posted by Q101 E. MIDTOWN 2 AV on Sun Aug 26 15:38:53 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Aug 26 15:12:27 2007. That has actually happened on several occasions on the B69. At one or two points, that same driver called my school's principal and the police. Thank God she doesn't do that run anyone. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Aug 26 15:42:23 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Deaks on Sun Aug 26 15:24:06 2007. I don't feel like explaining it, find out yourself. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Aug 26 15:46:33 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Q101 E. MIDTOWN 2 AV on Sun Aug 26 15:38:53 2007. Are you talking about the Bishop Ford kids? |
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Posted by Q101 E. MIDTOWN 2 AV on Sun Aug 26 15:51:29 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Aug 26 15:46:33 2007. Yes. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Aug 26 15:52:27 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Q101 E. MIDTOWN 2 AV on Sun Aug 26 15:51:29 2007. Wow, I never thought catholic school kids would be rowdy... |
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Posted by Q101 E. MIDTOWN 2 AV on Sun Aug 26 15:56:03 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Aug 26 15:52:27 2007. The difference between a public school and a catholic school is that a catholic school is run by Catholics. You should already know that. |
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Posted by JohnnyMints on Sun Aug 26 23:02:23 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Aug 26 15:52:27 2007. Are you serious? They're WORSE than public school kids, ESPECIALLY the girls! |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Aug 26 23:11:37 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Aug 26 15:52:27 2007. You must live in a Walt Disney fantasy world if you believe that! When the kids of Christ the King HS at Met. Ave. on the M line get out it is a crazy place of kids yelling, screaming and holding doors for their friends who haven't entered the system yet. The parents send them to the Catholic Schools to keep them out of the rowdy public schools. Or so they think. The only difference between a Catholic School kid and a public school kid is the Catholic School kid wears a uniform. |
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Posted by Q101 E. MIDTOWN 2 AV on Sun Aug 26 23:30:09 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by JohnnyMints on Sun Aug 26 23:02:23 2007. Do you have a tale you would like to tell? |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Aug 26 23:35:01 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Aug 26 23:11:37 2007. So much for teaching kids religious values, the kids at Regis High School on the Upper East Side didn't seem that bad though. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Aug 26 23:36:32 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by JohnnyMints on Sun Aug 26 23:02:23 2007. It's just hard imagining Catholic School girls in their uniforms being rowdy. |
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Posted by Q101 E. MIDTOWN 2 AV on Sun Aug 26 23:49:34 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Aug 26 23:35:01 2007. Mostly, the only way in hell one would hear of religious values would be in religion class, student retreat, mass, or in the case of Bishop Ford, a nun found annoying by many. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Aug 27 00:54:14 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Aug 25 16:10:45 2007. Shows that you DON'T DRIVE A BUS.You have no idea what its like to deal with the public..EVERY PASSENGER is a POTENTIAL PROBLEM..And you just have to GRIN AND DEAL WITH IT. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Aug 27 00:56:35 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Edwards! on Mon Aug 27 00:54:14 2007. Every passenger is also a poential law suit! |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Aug 27 01:16:51 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Edwards! on Mon Aug 27 00:54:14 2007. Grinning and dealing with can also be a way to handle the public too no doubt. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Aug 27 01:21:23 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Aug 27 01:16:51 2007. However, if an individual passenger decides to assault me, I'm not going to stand there like an idiot and take the beating, I'm going to defend myself until the fight is broken up. A group of passengers and armed passengers are a different case though. |
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Posted by RyogaRidesTheMTA on Mon Aug 27 03:05:52 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Aug 26 15:12:27 2007. I've been on many a Pelham Bay-bound QBx1 that goes out of service at Monsignor Scanlon. They think that having one or two of them entering through the front distracts the driver enough to have a horde of them entering (more like pushing and shoving) through the rear door.One time, I remember the driver made anyone with the Scanlon uniform get off the bus, regardless if they paid or not, and had them wait for the next one. He questioned me too, cause I had a schoolbag on, and looked young, and seemed to have forgotten that I was the first passenger who entered the bus at Flushing...but I flashed my Queens College ID and he left me alone. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 27 06:51:45 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Aug 27 01:21:23 2007. EXACTLY. |
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Posted by mambomta on Mon Aug 27 11:43:16 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Aug 26 23:36:32 2007. It's just hard imagining Catholic School girls in their uniforms being rowdy.Not really, especially after dealing with it for years. When I was in High School, we could always tell when the Catholic school kids got on the train. They cursed more than sailors. |
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Posted by Deaks on Mon Aug 27 13:17:34 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Aug 26 15:42:23 2007. Ahh, I see.... It's OK you know - just admit that it has nothing to do with what you first mentioned if you like.... |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Aug 27 23:03:00 2007, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Deaks on Mon Aug 27 13:17:34 2007. Yeah that's true. |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Tue Nov 30 09:50:13 2010, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Aug 24 21:59:47 2007. How the tides have changed, I don't see any of this anymore. Only thing they need to do is get these buses on-time & reduce bunching. |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Tue Nov 30 14:54:21 2010, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Tue Nov 30 09:50:13 2010. Yukon is better than Castleton. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Nov 30 15:21:28 2010, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Aug 23 23:10:52 2007. Saturday service? Few people outside of Tottenville High School students use it on weekdays as is. A diversion to serve Target/Home Depot is long overdue though. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Nov 30 15:21:56 2010, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Nov 30 15:21:28 2010. And I just realized that I'm responding to a necropost. WTF revived this? |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Nov 30 15:37:36 2010, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Nov 30 15:21:56 2010. How the tides have changed |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Tue Nov 30 15:40:50 2010, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by LRG5784 on Tue Nov 30 14:54:21 2010. Back in the day Yukon used to be worst than any depot, even JFK and LGA. |
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Posted by MCI GUY on Tue Nov 30 15:52:52 2010, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Nov 30 15:21:56 2010. and three years later they still retuse to service that area which now has two malls. so if you think theyre going to care about those 175 AE7 riders think again. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Tue Nov 30 16:34:28 2010, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by MCI GUY on Tue Nov 30 15:52:52 2010. They might...they just might. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Nov 30 18:19:21 2010, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by MCI GUY on Tue Nov 30 15:52:52 2010. Staten Island local bus service south of Richmond Avenue is a mess, and it's pretty clear that the MTA has yet to get with the times there since Target still isn't served by bus. |
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Posted by fdny on Tue Nov 30 19:05:17 2010, in response to Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Chipper10 on Thu Aug 23 22:18:13 2007. mr chipper...where are you getting this from????????????????????????????????????????????????????? steve |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Nov 30 19:08:57 2010, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by fdny on Tue Nov 30 19:05:17 2010. Notice he started this post over 3 years ago.It was revived in post #215007. |
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Posted by fdny on Tue Nov 30 21:46:18 2010, in response to Re: Ready for the S55 reroute & the new S89 on Staten Island., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Nov 30 19:08:57 2010. Just curious.Steve |
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