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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Apr 22 17:22:31 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Apr 22 14:36:31 2016. Where did I mention solving problems? LOL! What I wrote is completely correct. Even the parts of my post that you didn't quote. You obviously misunderstood what I said. LOL @ you wasting your time. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Apr 22 17:32:39 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Apr 22 15:27:21 2016. Yes, that's why I called you strange. It makes sense. I've not heard of anyone having to do what you just described in the absence of such effect on anyone else (not to mention that you said the EPA or whatever found nothing wrong with the air). That's strange. Doesn't mean your value as a human being is somehow less. Sheesh. Get over yourself. Many people would find me strange for replying so much to you. I don't get all bent out of shape over it. So what, I'm strange. I can accept that. You'd probably be a much happier person if you accepted and embraced your strangeness too.I totally would follow through with something if I honesty felt it was a danger to others. You seem to have believed it was a danger to others. Yet you just left them hanging. That seems wrong. Why would I wrote that 7 letter word as many times as you did, let alone over an entire page (not sure how much that would be here)? Are you ok? Are you sick? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Apr 22 17:33:32 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Apr 22 15:28:54 2016. But if they didn't think you'd follow through with a lawsuit, then why did they care enough to move you? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Apr 22 17:34:11 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Apr 22 15:36:13 2016. Wrong. All of my comments are relevant to the thread. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Apr 22 17:39:15 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Apr 22 15:41:18 2016. Lol!!! You chang what you say here ALL THE TIME! In this case, you originally said they don't have to respond to FOIL requests and then in your next response you said they do respond, they just cross done parts out or send you something else. So you changed. You're a liar.No I don't atteck you. No, my replies to you have reasons, justifications, and explanations. I do not deny it. LIAR! I do not state that everyone love me. LIAR! I do not say that you are ruining this site's reputation. LIAR! Everyone will not back you up on your ridiculous viewpoints. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Apr 22 17:48:31 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Apr 22 15:38:43 2016. Nope. Just the truth. Not an atteck. Just the truth. You're usually wrong. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Apr 22 17:49:13 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Apr 22 15:42:04 2016. I said: Not I'm not. What I wrote is correct. Show me an example that goes against my post. I know you can't and won't but I'd love to be wrong. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Apr 22 17:49:36 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Apr 22 15:46:40 2016. Not at all. LOL! |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Apr 22 23:04:14 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Apr 22 17:32:39 2016. You once filled an entire page repeating one word. That's when I realized you are just over the edge. You spend every waking hour on this forum. I call that strange.You are also confused. What I previously stated was that OSHA If you even know what that stands for found the facility EXTREMELY DANGEROUS, not EPA finding nothing wrong with the air. And just because you don't know how some people with asthma react to poor air quality is due to your own ignorance. That doesn't make me strange. My reaction was to become nautilus. My employee would start coughing uncontrollably until bus entire head turned a deep shade of dark purple. There were times I thought his head would just explode. I never saw anyone else with asthma react that way, but I never called him strange. I felt very sorry for him. You call me strange because I reply to you and when I ignore you, you keep asking a half dozen times "Why don't you reply! I know why. It's because you are wrong and you won't admit it. So reply. Why don't you reply. Reply." And when I reply, you say I reply too much and shouldn't reply. You should actually listen to how you sound. Those people who I left behind had the ability to fight for themselves. They were not invalids. They also had the union behind them if they wanted to contact them. I had no union. Do you fight for the entire world when you see injustice or something wrong? I am sure the answer is "no." So don't go preaching how others should behave. If anyone is sick here, it is you. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Apr 22 23:04:29 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Apr 22 17:32:39 2016. You once filled an entire page repeating one word. That's when I realized you are just over the edge. You spend every waking hour on this forum. I call that strange.You are also confused. What I previously stated was that OSHA If you even know what that stands for found the facility EXTREMELY DANGEROUS, not EPA finding nothing wrong with the air. And just because you don't know how some people with asthma react to poor air quality is due to your own ignorance. That doesn't make me strange. My reaction was to become nautilus. My employee would start coughing uncontrollably until bus entire head turned a deep shade of dark purple. There were times I thought his head would just explode. I never saw anyone else with asthma react that way, but I never called him strange. I felt very sorry for him. You call me strange because I reply to you and when I ignore you, you keep asking a half dozen times "Why don't you reply! I know why. It's because you are wrong and you won't admit it. So reply. Why don't you reply. Reply." And when I reply, you say I reply too much and shouldn't reply. You should actually listen to how you sound. Those people who I left behind had the ability to fight for themselves. They were not invalids. They also had the union behind them if they wanted to contact them. I had no union. Do you fight for the entire world when you see injustice or something wrong? I am sure the answer is "no." So don't go preaching how others should behave. If anyone is sick here, it is you. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Apr 22 23:06:26 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Apr 22 17:34:11 2016. The thread is about the B36. You never mentioned the B36 once in your hundred posts. You are completely delusional if you believe your comments were relevant to this thread. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Apr 22 23:09:22 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Apr 22 17:33:32 2016. Who said they didn't think I would follow through with a lawsuit? They saw me headed in that direction by gathering evidence. I had the results from OSHA at least verbally, and statements from 20 employees who claimed to be getting sick. They rightly figured that transferring me would make me forget about the air problems there not to peruse matters further. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Apr 22 23:10:00 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Apr 22 17:48:31 2016. Another useless post from you. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Apr 22 23:17:16 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by randyo on Wed Apr 20 17:44:33 2016. When you say O/P was in Korvettes are you talking about Planning or Schedules? I worked in Car Equioment in Korvettes from 1987 until 1991 and I do not remember OP being there. As far as I remember, OP was in Jay Street in Room 807 from 1981 until 1991 until they moved to Livingston but part of it may have been in the Howard Building when they took over Schedules. If you say you worked in Rapid Schedules at Korvettes, I believe you. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Apr 22 23:45:34 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Apr 22 17:39:15 2016. What I meant when I said FOIL requests don't have to be responded to I meant you have to ask for very specific records. If you are not specific enough, you will get a response that there are no records of the type you requested or they will send you something you don't need. And as I said, they could black out anything they don't want you to see.If you are not specific enough, the response could be that there are 300 or 1,000 pages that fit your description and at 25 cents per page, it could get too expensive so in either case you would have to resubmit your request and have to wait another six months for a response after you resubmit your request. Most likely after a year it would be too late for the data to be of use to you. You have repeatedly stated that you have many friends here who support you when more don't support you than do. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Apr 22 23:57:19 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Apr 22 17:22:31 2016. You said you can apply basic concepts from afar. I stated applying concepts from afar does not solve problems.Now you ask me where did you mention solving problems. What do you think this entire conversation is about? It's about solving a supposed problems relating to safety and traffic congestion in the area. You can't even follow a simple discussion. My point was that you have to deal with specifics and have specific knowledge about the specific area which includes visiting the area and becoming familiar with it because making decisions just by looking at numbers from your office will lead you to erroneous conclusions. Your point was that it was sufficient just to "apply basic concepts from afar." |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Apr 23 00:01:09 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Apr 22 17:49:36 2016. You can't just go around saying "wrong" to everyone without explaining why. It is unprofessional, and very childish. But if it makes you feel better about yourself just continue doing it and watch everyone just ignore you. Then when you don't get a response, you can feel good about yourself saying, see no one answered me when I said wrong so I must be right. WRONG. No one answered you because they don't have any patience to deal with all your nonsense. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Apr 23 00:01:21 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Apr 22 17:49:36 2016. You can't just go around saying "wrong" to everyone without explaining why. It is unprofessional, and very childish. But if it makes you feel better about yourself just continue doing it and watch everyone just ignore you. Then when you don't get a response, you can feel good about yourself saying, see no one answered me when I said wrong so I must be right. WRONG. No one answered you because they don't have any patience to deal with all your nonsense. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Apr 23 00:01:21 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Apr 22 17:49:36 2016. You can't just go around saying "wrong" to everyone without explaining why. It is unprofessional, and very childish. But if it makes you feel better about yourself just continue doing it and watch everyone just ignore you. Then when you don't get a response, you can feel good about yourself saying, see no one answered me when I said wrong so I must be right. WRONG. No one answered you because they don't have any patience to deal with all your nonsense. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Apr 24 14:28:51 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Apr 22 23:17:16 2016. Not only rapid schedules was in Korvettes but surface schedules was there too. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Apr 24 17:44:54 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by randyo on Sun Apr 24 14:28:51 2016. Okay. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Apr 25 12:37:48 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Apr 22 23:06:26 2016. Every one of my posts in this thread is a direct reply to the content of the post I replied to. Therefore, my comments were at least as relevant to this thread as the comments in the posts I replied to. Understand? |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Apr 25 12:41:15 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Apr 22 23:09:22 2016. Who said they didn't think I would follow through with a lawsuit?You did. You said: "It isn't easy to prove such stuff in court." So if it isn't easy, then why would NYCTA have been scared of you bringing a lawsuit? |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Apr 25 12:41:53 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Apr 22 23:10:00 2016. If it was useless, then so was the post I responded to. So...? |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Apr 25 12:49:10 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Apr 22 23:45:34 2016. What I meant when I said FOIL requests don't have to be responded to I meant you have to ask for very specific records. If you are not specific enough, you will get a response that there are no records of the type you requested or they will send you something you don't need. And as I said, they could black out anything they don't want you to see.You should have said that in the first place then. Because your original statement was way too simplistic to arrive at that complicated understanding. You have repeatedly stated that you have many friends here who support you when more don't support you than do.No, what I have said that most of the people who actively respond to your threads here support the positions that R30A and I take. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Apr 25 12:56:18 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Apr 22 23:57:19 2016. You said you can apply basic concepts from afar. I stated applying concepts from afar does not solve problems.Wrong. I'm describing a part of the process of solving problems. You can begin by applying basic concepts from afar. But YOU personally fail at that, as you apply said basic concepts incorrectly. Take for instance the use of hourly vehicle count volumes. I never said you can solve the entire problem from afar by applying basic concepts! But that is PART of the PROCESS for solving problems, and you can't even get that part right! So once again, I only said that you can apply basic concepts from afar. And I meant is as part of the process of solving problems. This could be seen by the fact that in the very next sentence IIRC I stated that visiting the site is still crucial (or something to that effect). YOU are the one who misunderstood me, ignored my second sentence, and then claimed that I said that problems can be solved by applying basic concepts from afar. THAT IS NOT WHAT I SAID. You can't even follow a simple discussion.No, it is YOU who can't follow a simple discussion. See what I just explained above. My point was that you have to deal with specifics and have specific knowledge about the specific area which includes visiting the area and becoming familiar with it because making decisions just by looking at numbers from your office will lead you to erroneous conclusions.I agree. But part of that process is applying basic concepts from afar before you get to the specific location. Your point was that it was sufficient just to "apply basic concepts from afar."No, I neither implied nor stated that. See my explanation above. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Apr 25 12:57:36 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Apr 23 00:01:09 2016. You can't just go around saying "wrong" to everyone without explaining why.I know. That's why I don't do that. I only do it so SOME people, not "everyone" as you erroneously claim. And I've already told you this. You just don't get it. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Apr 25 16:07:02 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Apr 25 12:57:36 2016. You have done it to me dozens of times. Now I am starting to do it to you also. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Apr 25 17:35:27 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Apr 25 16:07:02 2016. Where did I say otherwise? And what does that have to do with the post I made that you responded to? Do you admit that you were wrong in that post? |
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Posted by caine515 on Mon Apr 25 17:50:02 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Apr 22 23:57:19 2016. The B36 stops have been moved and the street is blocked in the direction the b36 would drop off towards coney island. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Apr 26 16:42:56 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by caine515 on Mon Apr 25 17:50:02 2016. We know that. What is your point? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Apr 26 16:53:35 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Apr 25 12:56:18 2016. So tell me what concepts are being applied from afar? And how has adapting those concepts to this specific situation solved any problems?DOT's statements and the facts are contradictory. They have determined the area as unsafe to pedestrians. How does two fatalities in nine years qualify the area as unsafe? They claim the bus turns are difficult and time consuming because of traffic congestion. Where is their data to support that conclusion? The bus rerouting will cause nearly 5,000 additional pedestrian crossings daily. That will increase pedestrian vehicular conflicts. How can that name the street safer? Each bus turn at East 17th Street will be replaced by about five new automobile left turns displaced from East 15 Street. How will that make the streets safer? How will waiting for the bus under a dark overpass in the winter where there are no businesses around be safer? Businesses claim the loss of foot traffic is hurting their business. DOT believes the pedestrian plaza will help their businesses when pedestrian plazas they have set up in Queens have failed because they hurt business there and had to get removed. There is a big disconnect between what DOT claims will happen and what actually will happen. None of those basic concepts have successfully been applied to this particular situation. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Apr 26 16:54:52 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Apr 25 12:37:48 2016. Total double talk. You have once again succeeded in saying absolutely nothing at all. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Apr 26 18:28:53 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Apr 26 16:53:35 2016. Why are you again implying that I am claiming that problems can be solved by only applying concepts from afar? Didn't I tell you three or more times that it is only part of the process? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Apr 26 18:30:31 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Apr 26 16:54:52 2016. Not at all. It is very clear. What part is double talk? Do you have reading and/or reading comprehension issues? Honest question. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Apr 26 21:05:00 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Apr 26 18:30:31 2016. Clear to you maybe. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 26 23:25:26 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Apr 26 21:05:00 2016. Clear to almost everyone. No one is backing up your ridiculous claim of double talk. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Apr 27 14:47:38 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 26 23:25:26 2016. And no one is agreeing with you either except perhaps R 30A. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Apr 28 14:15:53 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Apr 27 14:47:38 2016. That's a lie. You're a liar. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Apr 28 14:16:39 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Apr 26 18:28:53 2016. bump |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Apr 29 15:06:18 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Apr 26 18:28:53 2016. I didn't imply that at all and you failed to answer even one of my questions. |
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Posted by B1bus on Sat Apr 30 14:31:53 2016, in response to Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Apr 17 08:10:47 2016. Greg Mocker did a story on CH 11 news last night that they are closing E15 or 16st , I think, to build a pedestrian mall. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Apr 30 21:35:06 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Apr 28 14:15:53 2016. bump |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Apr 30 21:36:03 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Apr 29 15:06:18 2016. I didn't imply that at allYes you did! Stick to the issue at hand! |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sun May 1 00:33:56 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Apr 22 23:45:34 2016. Quick question: On a FOIL request, do you have the option of having them send you a PDF or a disc with the document if it's really long (or even a really short document)? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 1 09:02:48 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sun May 1 00:33:56 2016. No, you don't have the option. THEY have the option. But they will still charge you either way. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun May 1 18:01:35 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Apr 30 21:35:06 2016. Keep bumping your head against the wall. Maybe you'll knock sine sense into it. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun May 1 18:14:03 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sun May 1 00:33:56 2016. They charge 25 cents per page so if it's a 300 page document, that's $75 and you will probably only be interested in a few pages anyway. That's why most don't bother.There was a story on Channel 2 the other day about the station requesting documents under FOIL to determine the real motives to end the horse drawn carriages in Central Park. Numerous documents were obtained showing the real motive was to increase real estate values where the four stakes are now located, not the animal welfare rights as DeBlasio has maintained. What was interesting is that they had to wait an entire year for a response and one of the pages was 100 percent blacked out. So why us it called "Freedom of Information" when they can send you only what they want to? I bet the document was just to damning. I can't believe national security issues were involved which would make sense in withholding info. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun May 1 18:15:02 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by B1bus on Sat Apr 30 14:31:53 2016. It's East 15th. And it was already closed. I asked him to do the story. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun May 1 18:49:44 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus ride, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun May 1 18:14:03 2016. If Channel 2 really wanted to be nasty, it probably could have obtained a court order demanding the info on that page be disclosed. |
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