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Posted by randyo on Wed Apr 20 17:44:33 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Apr 19 19:33:52 2016. I was in Rapid Transit scheduling from 1976 to 1984, when I went back to the road as a provisional trainmaster and returned to scheduling in mid 1985 and scheduling was still under Rapid Transit Transportation as RTO was called at the time. In 1981, the Department of Schedules and Traffic Research as it was called was still under RTTD and the service planning was done by the RTTD Dept until Operations Planning was fully operational and both surface and rapid scheduling were placed under that umbrella with Howard Benn as the Asst V/P of the department. Initially rapid scheduling and surface were in Jay St and ENY respectively until the departments were moved temporarily to Korvettes so don’t say O/P was never in Korvettes because I worked there when it was. I suspect that when O/P was in the Howard Bldg, scheduling was still in Jay St and didn’t move till it was fully up and running. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Apr 20 18:11:08 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Apr 19 19:57:46 2016. I can’t say for sure how my knowledge of subway trivia would compere with mine, but considering that I lived through much of it and worked a lot of it with the TA I can safely say that I could definitely go toe to toe with him on many items. For example, I wonder if he ever rode the 3 Av El all the way from So/Fy to the Bronx, the Fulton St El to/from Lefferts and the IRT 7 Av Exp to Bronx Pk all of which I have done. I have personally experienced many aspects of the NYCTS both as a passenger and an employee that he probably only read about in books. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Apr 20 18:20:06 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by randyo on Wed Apr 20 17:44:33 2016. Nice. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Apr 20 18:27:50 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Apr 20 13:20:16 2016. If a minute or 2 is that critical to making or missing a connection, then even if the walking time and distance are shorter, it probably would’t make much difference anyhow especially since, at the present time there is no official coordination between subway and bus routes or for that matter between differ bus routes as is the case ion many subway lines. When I was making schedules for lines subway that made connections that were not immediately across the platform, I always allowed sufficient walk time to allow passengers to make connections in the event of small latenesses. |
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Posted by BusRider on Wed Apr 20 18:34:22 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by randyo on Wed Apr 20 18:27:50 2016. Were there ever cooridnation? It appears many routes have not changed drastically throughout MTA history. What do you consider sufficient walk time? |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Apr 20 19:28:43 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BusRider on Wed Apr 20 18:34:22 2016. One example that I personally was involved in was the midnight shortlining of the #6 at 125 St. Trains arriving from Pelham at 125 St could go right back from the S.B platform and Xover to the N/B track S/O 125 St. Since passengers from uptown 4s had to walk downstairs to get the 6 shuttle, I allowed 5 min for passengers to walk down even though it wouldn’t take nearly as long. to go downstairs. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Apr 20 19:38:24 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Apr 20 17:38:05 2016. You asked me why I couldn't have kept my title as head of citywide bus planning at Jay Street. I was demoted to head of Brooklyn Planning and other people already there headed planning for the other other boroughs because new studies had started for the other boroughs. One person could not have headed the four studies. (The Bronx study had been completed in ENY before I arrived.) So together person in charge of subways became the person to be responsible for the four studies including the Brooklyn one I was in charge of. If I would have maintained my title at Jay Street, I would have had essentially my boss's job except for being in charge of subways and they would gave had to hire another person just to supervise both of us which really wouldn't have made much sense. Therefore it was possible for me to keep the title only if I remained in East New York. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Apr 20 19:39:20 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Apr 20 14:18:09 2016. Yes you are right and the rest of the world except R 30A is wrong. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Apr 20 19:41:28 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Apr 20 14:19:28 2016. Why would I need a representative sample of days? DOT had people counting cars near the station yesterday and no one counting today. They don't feel they need a representative sample. And even if I went out there more than once, you would still claim it wasn't representative. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Apr 20 19:49:50 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Apr 20 15:00:41 2016. I refuted all of R30A's points. You did nothing but attack. You never addressed any of the issues.Here is the text of the petition if that makes you happy: (The website made the text into a single paragraph.) DOT is out of control making changes no one wants since Mayor de Blasio gave the Transportation commissioner authority last year to ignore communities and other elected officials when Vision Zero is involved. In Sheepshead Bay on April 24th, with only 12 days notice, a portion of East 15th Street will be turned into a pedestrian mall and two blocks of Sheepshead Bay Road between Jerome Avenue and East 15th Street will become one way in the name of increasing safety under Vision Zero. DOT has determined the intersection of East 17th Street to be dangerous although there was only one fatality there in ten years and twelve injuries spread out over five years. Is that enough justification to inconvenience nearly 5,000 daily commuting trips? How does that compare with other intersections where DOT is not proposing any changes? The fatality a few months ago at East 17th Street and Avenue Z was the first one at that location since at least 2007. DOT is also now considering that a dangerous intersection. The truth is that with nearly 5,000 additional street crossings per day, pedestrian vehicular conflicts will increase and the streets will become more dangerous, not safer, under the DOT plan. These additional crossings will result from a rerouting of the B36 bus to operate straight on Avenue Z rather than directly serving the subway station as it has been doing all these years. Vehicular turning movements will also increase at the intersection of East 17th Street and Avenue Z also increasing the dangers for pedestrians at that location. This change will require B36 bus passengers to walk an extra 260 foot block during all sorts of weather to access the subway. Subway passengers will also have to walk an extra block to access the B36 bus which could add as much as 20 minutes to your trip if the extra walk causes you to miss your connection. Buses and trains need to be made more convenient, not less convenient. Why should you be able to get a taxi in front of the subway station but now have to walk a block to the bus? The B36 route has dipped down to serve the Sheepshead Bay Station since 1978 when the route was revised because half the passengers get on or off the bus to access the subway. Sheepshead Bay Station is the sixth heaviest bus subway transfer point in Brooklyn and transferring should be as convenient as possible. DOT has not presented any traffic counts to show that traffic congestion will be reduced and not merely shifted from Sheepshead Bay Road to Avenue Z between East 15th and East 17 Street, causing more traffic congestion there. They have not addressed the real congestion problems existing on Sheepshead Bay Road south of Jerome Avenue and on Voorhies Avenue and East 18th Street where turning cars have to wait 15 to 30 minutes just to make a turn at that intersection between 4 and 7 PM. Their proposal was first presented last June to the local community board and was soundly rejected by them as well as by the merchants on Sheepshead Bay Road and other local community groups. Now without any explanation it has resurfaced. Rather than implementing their proposal on a trial basis in order for data to be collected to see if it works, DOT intends to start pouring concrete within one month so that their decision cannot be reversed. DOT has also been non-responsive to our elected officials telling at least one of them, thank you for your input but this project is moving forward anyway. Only one notice of change has been posted inside the subway station which can easily be missed by rushing commuters. There are no signs in the buses or any notification on the MTA website under Planned Service Changes for April 24, 2016. Therefore, we the undersigned are opposed to this sudden traffic change and bus rerouting and demand DOT not to make this a permanent change and the MTA not change the B36 bus route. I will send the link to anyone interested in signing if they email me. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Apr 20 19:52:39 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by randyo on Wed Apr 20 18:27:50 2016. A few seconds is all that is needed to miss a connection. How many tines has a bus pulled out just as you were approaching the front door or a subway close the doors right in your face? It happens all the time. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Apr 20 19:58:49 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by R30A on Wed Apr 20 13:57:42 2016. If they would have kept the separate paragraphs as I submitted it, it would have been much clearer, but I had no control over that. I put the paragraphs back in only to have them remove it.The purpose of a petition is to present only one side, not to have a debate or honest argument. Those approve sign and those who don't agree do not sign. . On my blog, both sides were always heard. No one was mislead into being against it. I was at the bus stop today handing out links to the petition and people thanked me for trying to stop this plan. Others asked why they were making the change and asking why they want to make things more inconvenient. |
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Posted by brightonr68 on Wed Apr 20 22:10:57 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Apr 20 13:02:58 2016. I understand the plan and rode the said bus line for 20 years. It is a dumb plan that would actually put pedestrains in danger.Currently anyone getting off and heading towards ave U on the B36 crosses ZERO streets. This plan is a major step back for mass transit riders |
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Posted by brightonr68 on Wed Apr 20 22:13:13 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Apr 20 12:54:58 2016. I live in the area and rode the B36 for 20 years. The video is representative of what it looks line on an average day.The DOT is wrong wrong wrong and ideologically driven not factually driven |
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Posted by brightonr68 on Wed Apr 20 22:16:43 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Apr 20 19:52:39 2016. This plan is a disaster . Not taking into consideration the riders at all. People are going to have to leave 5 min earlier to catch the same train the currently take. Not to mention those who have trouble walking who now need to walk further . My neighbors are not happy. Fortunitly I do not take the B36 to the train anymore . Just drive to work. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Apr 20 23:43:53 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Apr 20 19:38:24 2016. That makes no sense. If you were head of city-wide bus planning at ENY, why couldn't you be the same at JAY? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Apr 20 23:45:01 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Apr 20 19:39:20 2016. No, you're wrong. I never said that. Why are you almost always wrong? And why can't you address the actual issue? You posted something ridiculous and I asked you a question about it. Why can't you answer? I know why. Because you know you're wrong. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Apr 20 23:47:11 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Apr 20 19:41:28 2016. Why would I need a representative sample of days?Because that's what PLANNING is all about. Obviously you no next to nothing about planning. You're a joke. DOT had people counting cars near the station yesterday and no one counting today.So? Maybe they'll count next Wednesday and the Wednesday after that. They don't feel they need a representative sample.You know this HOW exactly?? And even if I went out there more than once, you would still claim it wasn't representative.Wrong. Why are you almost always wrong?? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Apr 20 23:53:21 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Apr 20 19:49:50 2016. I refuted all of R30A's points.Nope. You TRIED, but FAILED, to refute them. You did nothing but attack.I have not attacked you. You never addressed any of the issues.LOL! Why would I if R30A already successfully addressed all the issues and put you in your place and pwn3d you six ways to Sunday? DOT is out of control making changes no one wants since Mayor de Blasio...See, you're already wrong. You can't honestly think or claim that NO ONE wants the changes DOT is making! I mean GET REAL! You obviously have no idea how the real world works. I will send the link to anyone interested in signing if they email me.Why make it so complicated. The link is here: Stop DOT's planned traffic changes near Sheepshead Bay Station and the B36 rerouting. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Apr 20 23:55:51 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Apr 20 19:58:49 2016. No one was mislead into being against it.Wrong! Tons of people were. 26 or more people at that link were. and asking why they want to make things more inconvenient.They don't. And it's not. You're wrong. You should tell people that you're wrong. Instead, you're misleading them. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Apr 20 23:56:05 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by brightonr68 on Wed Apr 20 22:10:57 2016. Wrong. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Apr 20 23:56:28 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by brightonr68 on Wed Apr 20 22:13:13 2016. I hope they piss you off even more. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Apr 21 07:44:58 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Apr 20 14:15:51 2016. The videos do not clearly show empty streets. The DOT wants to solve serious problems with concrete so that pedestrian hating nutjobs like yourself can't campaign against saving pedestrian lives for your precious one minute of driving time. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Apr 21 07:55:25 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by brightonr68 on Wed Apr 20 22:16:43 2016. Have all your neighbors sign the petition. Tell them to go to Change.org and under "explore" hit search and type B36. That is the only way to stop this if we can show the MTA that the riders do not want this. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Apr 21 08:34:38 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Apr 21 07:55:25 2016. LOL, you won't stop this with your stupid petition. NYCDOT/MTA knows that you're an idiot and they're not going to listen to people who blindly or unwittingly follow your lead. At the very least you should have had someone else be the public face of your protest. You should have kept your name out of it so NYCDOT/MTA wouldn't be biased against the cause right off the bat. LOL! You're clueless. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Apr 21 09:56:33 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Apr 20 15:01:14 2016. LOL |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Apr 21 10:07:59 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Apr 20 23:43:53 2016. I just gave you a detailed explanation but apparently it went in one ear and out the other. I had a boss whom I reported to at East New York. I would have had to report to someone else at Jay Street. What you are suggesting is that bus and subway planning to have been two separate divisions under another division called Ooerations Planning. As I explained a third individual would have had to be appointed whose sole function would have been to supervise the head of bus planning and the head of subway planning. That would have been totally inefficient.The other possibility was for someone in Rapid Transit Operations Planning to be promoted to head that department, put all the bus stuff under me, and promote the head of Operations Planning to be head of Operations Planning. His function then also would have been to solely supervise two people. Also not advisable. Any other alternative would still have kept the planning units separated. They had to be combined in order to justify any move. I don't know how else I could make this any clearer. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Apr 21 10:20:28 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Apr 20 23:45:01 2016. I am not wrong. I am keeping them informed by explaining why I only had the position for six months because even though I explained it before not everyone here reads every single BusChat post like you do. So to summarize in one sentence, I lost my job and was demoted in responsibilities, not salary, because I refused to work in an unhealthy work environment which management refused to do anything about. I was told to my face that it was easier to transfer me than fix the air quality problems which endangered everyone who worked there. The air quality was proven unhealthy by OSHA and the MTA was afraid of a lawsuit if I remained there because I had gathered 20 testimonials from other employees who claimed they were getting sick.Are you happy now that I finally answered your question how I am keeping everyone informed? See I am not wrong. Are you now going to call me a liar claiming none of what I just stated is true? Because that is what I expect from you. Prove me to be wrong about that. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Apr 21 11:43:30 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Apr 20 23:45:01 2016. I am not wrong. I am keeping them informed by explaining why I only had the position for six months because even though I explained it before not everyone here reads every single BusChat post like you do. So to summarize in one sentence, I lost my job and was demoted in responsibilities, not salary, because I refused to work in an unhealthy work environment which management refused to do anything about. I was told to my face that it was easier to transfer me than fix the air quality problems which endangered everyone who worked there. The air quality was proven unhealthy by OSHA and the MTA was afraid of a lawsuit if I remained there because I had gathered 20 testimonials from other employees who claimed they were getting sick.Are you happy now that I finally answered your question how I am keeping everyone informed? See I am not wrong. Are you now going to call me a liar claiming none of what I just stated is true? Because that is what I expect from you. Prove me to be wrong about that. |
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Posted by The Silence on Thu Apr 21 13:24:25 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Apr 20 19:41:28 2016. because you have one only sample data point and you can't draw a conclusion from just one test.you made the claim, you need to provide the evidence. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Apr 21 14:25:49 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Apr 21 10:07:59 2016. So the air quality at ENY was safe for your boss but not safe for you and your staff? |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Apr 21 14:38:11 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Apr 20 23:47:11 2016. *know |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Apr 21 17:39:39 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Apr 21 08:34:38 2016. You are so off-base, you make me laugh. Actually, I have a very good relationship with the bus operations people at the MTA. We meet every three months to discuss bus issues. The last meeting was in February at Ulmer Park for over an hour and a quarter. Six people attended.My last "stupid" petition brought back the B4. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Apr 21 17:41:49 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Apr 20 23:56:05 2016. There you go again using the only word in your vocabulary. Any intelligent person knows that if you are going to call someone out as "wrong" you owe it to them to explain why which is why when you say WRONG. IT MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Apr 21 17:46:24 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Apr 20 23:53:21 2016. Neither of your first two links show that I have not adequately addressed R30A. All you did was link back to two of your meaningless posts. You pick one post where you did not attack me to use as proof that none of your posts where you call me an idiot, a liar. and clueless as attacks. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Apr 21 17:58:41 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by R30A on Thu Apr 21 07:44:58 2016. The videos show very light traffic for a rush hour where DOT claims bus turns are difficult because of congested streets. It also shows extremely heavy streets a few blocks away that DOT is ignoring with their plan to supposedly reduce congestion and increase safety in the area.DOT wants to solve problems with concrete so their changes cannot be reversed. The intelligent thing to do would be to have a six month trial while you collect data, and install concrete only after you have proved the plan met its objectives. The DOT knows they won't be able to get the numbers to prove that so even if it fails to meet objectives, they can always claim there is no money to remove the concrete so the plan must stay. You say the pedestrian problems are serious and call me a nutjob. who wants to save one precious minute of driving. Here are the facts. The entire area surrounding the subway station's north end where their proposal has been made HAD ONLY ONE SINGLE PEDESTRIAN FATALITY SINCE 2007 until the unfortunate second fatality a few months ago. THAT IS TWO FATALITIES WITHIN NINE YEARS! If that is the definition of what makes an area dangerous for pedestrians, THEN THE ENTIRE CITY IS DANGEROUS TO PEDESTRIANS. So if a turning bus happens to kill a pedestrian for whatever reason, the pedestrian crossed directly in front of the bus or the bus driver failed to pay attention, THE ANSWER MUST BE TO ABOLISH THE BUS TURN. That is DOT's logic and your logic. Think twice about who are the real nutjobs. It sounds to me they are you and those at DOT. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Apr 21 18:03:38 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by The Silence on Thu Apr 21 13:24:25 2016. Correct, ideally you should go out more than once. But I see the same thing every day at Voorhies Avenue and Sheepshead Bay Road, so I know there It is not an anomaly such as an accident that caused delays or lack of traffic.How much do you want to bet that DOT never releases the details of their data such as or how many days they did their counts? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Apr 21 18:06:55 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Apr 20 13:32:21 2016. Obviously, you know nothing about lawsuits. You need to prove damages to collect. Once I left the worksite, it was up to the remaining employees to sue if they believe they were being harmed. They very well might have been if they had unusual medical expenses or the harm might not have obvious for years. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Apr 21 18:10:42 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Apr 21 14:25:49 2016. It wasn't safe for him either. He just didn't realize it since the air seemed fine in his opinion. People with asthma and other respiratory problems are much more sensitive to air quality. Anyway, he never kept the same job for more than three years, so he wasn't that concerned. He knew that it can take many years before poor air quality can start to affect your health. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Apr 21 18:11:35 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Apr 20 14:17:42 2016. Tell me once when I was right about something. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 21 22:08:23 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Apr 20 23:47:11 2016. BUMP FOR BROOKLYNBUS |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 21 22:13:25 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Apr 21 17:39:39 2016. Actually, I have a very good relationship with the bus operations people at the MTA. We meet every three months to discuss bus issues. The last meeting was in February at Ulmer Park for over an hour and a quarter. Six people attended.LOL!!! Bus operations don't mean jack. We're talking about a planning issue which is handled by OP. How many people at OP, the ones who makes the decisions, meet with you regularly and take you seriously? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 21 22:14:32 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Apr 21 17:41:49 2016. Wrong. Any intelligent person here knows that brightonr68 is owed no such thing. LOL! You're clueless! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 21 22:18:08 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Apr 21 17:46:24 2016. Neither of your first two links show that I have not adequately addressed R30A.Nor were they supposed to. It doesn't need showing. Virtually every post you have made that has been replied to by R30A was wrong and R30A successfully told you so and/or explained why. All you did was link back to two of your meaningless posts.They're only meaningless to you because you fail to comprehend them. You pick one post where you did not attack me to use as proof that none of your posts where you call me an idiot, a liar. and clueless as attacks.I did no such thing! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 21 22:20:45 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Apr 21 18:03:38 2016. But I see the same thing every day at Voorhies Avenue and Sheepshead Bay Road, so I know there It is not an anomaly such as an accident that caused delays or lack of traffic.So what? You're clueless, almost always wrong, and untrustworthy. So it doesn't matter what you "know". It matters that you gather sufficient hard evidence to support your assertions. You have not done that. How much do you want to bet that DOT never releases the details of their data such as or how many days they did their counts?Make a FOIL request for it. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 21 22:23:14 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Apr 21 18:06:55 2016. Obviously, you know nothing about lawsuits. You need to prove damages to collect.LOL! So then don't collect! Just sue them on principle for subjecting workers to supposedly unsafe conditions! And if you were not harmed one iota, how do you know it was unsafe???? Once I left the worksite, it was up to the remaining employees to sue if they believe they were being harmed. They very well might have been if they had unusual medical expenses or the harm might not have obvious for years.Nope. It was your moral responsibility to help those other workers whom you left behind bring the lawsuit. You failed. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 21 22:24:22 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Apr 21 18:10:42 2016. He knew that it can take many years before poor air quality can start to affect your health.Yet you were so willing after only 6 months to give up the esteemed title that you throw around here daily????? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 21 22:24:50 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Apr 21 18:11:35 2016. Once you were right about something. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Apr 21 23:26:43 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 21 22:23:14 2016. When the elevator to the fourth floor was out, I had to go to the open window, take a deep breath, run up a flight of stairs, run to the window, take another deep breath and run up another flight of stairs. If I didn't run up the stairs fast enough, I would start to vomit.Once I got inside the fourth floor, the air was okay because that was where the executives worked. My boss wanted me to move to the other building because there really wasn't enough room for me on that floor. The air in the other building was almost as bad as the stairway. I argued with him about that for several months. As for continuing the fight after I left and it was no longer my problem, you have to be out of your mind. Unless you would have done that and would have spent money hiring a lawyer to sue just on principle, which I know would have never been the case, you have no right to lecture anyone on moral responsibility. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Apr 21 23:29:37 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 21 22:24:22 2016. I said it would have taken him many years. It is much quicker if you have asthma like I have. My employee who suffered greatly in East New York was dead in five years at age 57. I am sure his time in East New York was partially to blame. |
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