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Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Apr 19 19:33:52 2016, in response to Re: Attention all B36 Bus riders, posted by randyo on Tue Apr 19 15:55:53 2016.

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However, some of your facts are erroneous.

The Gunn Administration began in February 1984. Rapid Transit Operations Planning and the Surface Planning Department as it was called in 1981 when I was in charge merged in July 1981, three years before the Gunn Administration. There probably were previous attempts to combine the departments but Surface was fiercely territorial and despised Jay Street considering their own turfdom a separate empire.

My boss's favorite statement he would repeat is "Jay Street will self destruct." Surface refused to take any orders from Jay Street. They refused to give up Planning until the situations described regarding the air quality occurred when they initiated the suggestion so that I would be moved.

It took several more years before they conceded to give up Schedules although it made zero sense for Schedules to remain at East New York. Until Gunn Surface and Rapid were " Divisions". Those divisions had departments within them. Gunn decided to reverse the terminology changing Surface to Buses and Rapid to Subways and calling them both departments and changing their previous departments to divisions.

It was called Surface until 1984 because it also technically included trolleys which ceased to exist in 1956. So it only took the NYCTA and the MTA 28 years to recognize it no longer operated trolleys.

As for if merging both operations planning departments into one to better coordinate buses and subways, that is probably the case, although I wonder if it even had that effect. But the point is the reason the change was made was not because of better functionality, it was to move me out of East New York.

Operations Planning was never located in Korvettes. They were either in Jay Street or in the Howard Clothes Building on Chapel Street which you failed to mention.

Regarding your experience to better coordinate buses and subways at major feeder stations, I was involved in similar studies around 1976 at Flatbush/Nostrand and Utica/Eastern Parkway where I produced two reports at the Department of City Planning. We collected passenger counts at Flatbush Avenue and discovered many buses leaving in the PM rush nearly empty. So we asked for train arrival times. What we found was astonishing to say the least. On all three days where we were given data from the MTA, we found only 50% of the trains leaving their northern terminal in the Bronx or Manhattan actually arrived at their southern terminal (Flatbush, Utica, or New Lots.) The other half was abandoned on route with passengers being discharged. That was when there were passenger rebellions with passengers refusing orders to leave the train with done passengers being taken to the yard, or the train being put back in service. (Trains were ordered to be removed from service when one pair of adjacent door leafs failed, which accounted for about half the abandonments.)



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