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Re: Summary and Video of November 2015 SBS meeting in Woodhaven

Posted by R30A on Wed Mar 9 19:08:30 2016, in response to Re: Summary and Video of November 2015 SBS meeting in Woodhaven, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Mar 9 18:29:17 2016.

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"How many tines do I have to show you that bus riders are outnumbered five to one?"
Once. The count is still zero.

"You choose to only look at a one hour period,"
Yes. The one hour which matters. If you suspect the peak is a different hour, I'm all ears for why you think that.

"not a 24 hour period, which must be looked at for a proposal in effect for 24 hours."
24 hour period totals is absolutely useless when designing for peak capacity.

"Look at the counts given for crossing Woodhaven at Metropolitan Avenue."
Why??

"The south crosswalk shows 54 crossing within the peak hour. That is less than one person crossing per minute AND THAT IS THE PEAK!"
Ok. Has no relevance at all to the discussion though.

"Further, no accident data has been provided for that intersection, but DOT wants to reduce road capacity at that location from 6 northbound lanes and six southbound lanes (including turn lanes) to three general traffic lanes for each direction. THAT IS A 50 PERCENT REDUCTION IN ROAD CAPACITY TO SERVE TWO PASSENGERS CROSSING WOODHAVEN PER MINUTE DURING THE PEAK HOUR if you look at both crosswalks."
Actually, it isn't. Turn lanes don't provide through capacity. Left turn lanes REDUCE through capacity. The right turn lanes AREN'T BEING ELIMINATED. And furthermore, the purpose of such is NOT solely for pedestrian convenience! AND PERHAPS, THERE ARE FEW PEDESTRIANS CROSSING THERE BECAUSE IT IS AN UNSAFE INTERSECTION!!! Wow!


"And you are saying that a 50 percent reduction in road capacity for general traffic will make it move faster. TOTALLY UTTER NONSENSE!!!"
A. Not a 50% reduction.
B. Red lights will be 15 seconds shorter.
C. Just south of Metropolitan, traffic currently merges down to 3 lanes anyway. That merge will be eliminated.


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