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Re: Push to Replace Port Authority Bus Terminal

Posted by j trainloco on Thu Mar 19 22:53:01 2015, in response to Re: Push to Replace Port Authority Bus Terminal, posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 19 17:58:40 2015.

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1) It is not DOA.

Correct. It was DOA: dead on arrival. It was proposed by a lame duck mayor, has no identified funding sources, the agency who would build it declined to advance the proposal, and no current politician seems interested in pushing it (both NJ and NY seem to have more interest in building new rail links to their airports of specious value).

2) "One seat ride" is consumer fraud. You'll transfer to a subway at one place or another.

Even if we ignore the fraud comment, your proposing turning a two seat ride into a 3 seat ride for many folks...

3) Far more people ride buses to PABT than NJT trains to NYPS. Gateway tunnels solve part of it, not nearly all of it.

And yet, this is not the case for the suburbs north and east of the city...

4) Most communities in NJ are served by buses, not trains.

Why is this the case in NJ but not in upstate NY? If Gateway allowed a dramatic increase in rail service, could more passengers be accommodated through driving to parking lots, or bus service to rail stations?

5) #7 has double the capacity of Gateway, which is an Amtrak intercity rail project with an accommodation for commuter rail.

As you yourself note, Gateway accomplishes two things: additional commuter capacity and more intercity service. Yes, metro has more ability to accommodate crowds, but I'm not sure that you're going to get every single bus rider off of buses info the 7 in Secaucus, especially if their destination isn't along the 7 line. In that case, you're not going to need the capacity of a metro style rail service.

6) Buses don't increase property values.

Nor does building a one stop subway line to a bus terminal.

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