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Unvaccinated MTA Workers Who Succumb to COVID Will Not Receive $500,000 Death Benefit

Posted by heypaul on Sun Sep 12 22:59:18 2021

No vaccination, no benefit

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Re: Unvaccinated MTA Workers Who Succumb to COVID Will Not Receive $500,000 Death Benefit

Posted by Ble-nimx on Mon Sep 13 08:35:15 2021, in response to Unvaccinated MTA Workers Who Succumb to COVID Will Not Receive $500,000 Death Benefit, posted by heypaul on Sun Sep 12 22:59:18 2021.

They have a "CHIEF PEOPLE OFFICER" at the MTA?

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Re: Unvaccinated MTA Workers Who Succumb to COVID Will Not Receive $500,000 Death Benefit

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 13 08:41:05 2021, in response to Unvaccinated MTA Workers Who Succumb to COVID Will Not Receive $500,000 Death Benefit, posted by heypaul on Sun Sep 12 22:59:18 2021.

Litigate the blazes out of that institutionalized bigotry.

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Re: Unvaccinated MTA Workers Who Succumb to COVID Will Not Receive $500,000 Death Benefit

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 13 08:42:44 2021, in response to Re: Unvaccinated MTA Workers Who Succumb to COVID Will Not Receive $500,000 Death Benefit, posted by Ble-nimx on Mon Sep 13 08:35:15 2021.

Yes. Sound commie enough?

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Re: Unvaccinated MTA Workers Who Succumb to COVID Will Not Receive $500,000 Death Benefit

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Sep 13 09:16:54 2021, in response to Unvaccinated MTA Workers Who Succumb to COVID Will Not Receive $500,000 Death Benefit, posted by heypaul on Sun Sep 12 22:59:18 2021.

The death benefit is negotiated. I strongly doubt that they can unilaterally take it off the table. While I agree that people should be vaccinated, this does sound like over-reach that would likely be struck down in a court challenge.

NOTE: I suspect that the "chief people officer" is the woke title for the head of "human resources". Human resources sounds so cold and impersonal.

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Re: Unvaccinated MTA Workers Who Succumb to COVID Will Not Receive $500,000 Death Benefit

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 13 09:58:51 2021, in response to Re: Unvaccinated MTA Workers Who Succumb to COVID Will Not Receive $500,000 Death Benefit, posted by Train Dude on Mon Sep 13 09:16:54 2021.

I miss "Personnel".

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Re: Unvaccinated MTA Workers Who Succumb to COVID Will Not Receive $500,000 Death Benefit

Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Sep 13 10:19:44 2021, in response to Re: Unvaccinated MTA Workers Who Succumb to COVID Will Not Receive $500,000 Death Benefit, posted by Train Dude on Mon Sep 13 09:16:54 2021.

You would have to read the fine print for this one. yes, the death benefit is negotiated but whoever administers it might have the final say.

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Re: Unvaccinated MTA Workers Who Succumb to COVID Will Not Receive $500,000 Death Benefit

Posted by subfan on Mon Sep 13 11:00:37 2021, in response to Re: Unvaccinated MTA Workers Who Succumb to COVID Will Not Receive $500,000 Death Benefit, posted by Elkeeper on Mon Sep 13 10:19:44 2021.

I think the article said it was negotiated through a certain date. Now that that period is over, they can change the terms - either unilaterally or via negotiations.

subfan

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Re: Unvaccinated MTA Workers Who Succumb to COVID Will Not Receive $500,000 Death Benefit

Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Sep 13 11:11:17 2021, in response to Re: Unvaccinated MTA Workers Who Succumb to COVID Will Not Receive $500,000 Death Benefit, posted by subfan on Mon Sep 13 11:00:37 2021.

What I was trying to say was that, if you negotiate Death Benefits, you may not have a say in who gets what. One of the criteria for awarding injury or death benefits is past practice. COVID is a relatively new factor


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Re: Unvaccinated MTA Workers Who Succumb to COVID Will Not Receive $500,000 Death Benefit

Posted by pragmatist on Mon Sep 13 11:24:51 2021, in response to Re: Unvaccinated MTA Workers Who Succumb to COVID Will Not Receive $500,000 Death Benefit, posted by subfan on Mon Sep 13 11:00:37 2021.

It is also possible to negotiate a separate "side agreement" the terms of which do not become permanently part of a CBA, and that is not uncommon in dealing with major issues that are considered likely to be temporary. It definitely has bearing on the likelihood of any possible litigation being successful.

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Re: Unvaccinated MTA Workers Who Succumb to COVID Will Not Receive $500,000 Death Benefit

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 13 11:45:05 2021, in response to Re: Unvaccinated MTA Workers Who Succumb to COVID Will Not Receive $500,000 Death Benefit, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 13 08:41:05 2021.

[straitjacket man]

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Re: Unvaccinated MTA Workers Who Succumb to COVID Will Not Receive $500,000 Death Benefit

Posted by AlM on Mon Sep 13 12:21:37 2021, in response to Re: Unvaccinated MTA Workers Who Succumb to COVID Will Not Receive $500,000 Death Benefit, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 13 11:45:05 2021.

While I support the MTA putting strong pressure on its employees to get vaccinated, I don't support yanking life insurance coverage.

The "moral hazard" life insurance provisions become a slippery slope. Where do you draw the line? Should employees lose their life insurance if they die in a mountain climbing accident? Because they smoked? Because they had a motorboat accident?





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Re: Unvaccinated MTA Workers Who Succumb to COVID Will Not Receive $500,000 Death Benefit

Posted by pragmatist on Mon Sep 13 12:59:24 2021, in response to SubChat/BusChat/OTChat

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