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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Dec 14 22:50:48 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Dec 14 19:24:48 2014. Steve, it was up in 1966 or 1967- my mistake. I had a valid NJ drivers license, but I wasn't 18, so I couldn't drive in NYC in 1966. As I told you before, I stayed with my great-aunt on Marginal Street east- the one block continuation of New Jersey Ave that deadended at the Highland Blvd overpass. I took the Jamaica el to 168th St, and caught the old Q-17A bus to St John's Univ on the Utopia Pkwy side. I always got on the el at Alabama Ave and, believe me, you could not miss that crane! |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Dec 14 23:16:50 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by Elkeeper on Sun Dec 14 22:25:34 2014. If you could find a spot for a bellmouth, it would be cheaper to run the line as an el over the BQE and the GCP, the way AirTrain runs over the Van Wyck. There are no residences along the BQE to object. |
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Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Mon Dec 15 09:00:03 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by Elkeeper on Sun Dec 14 17:37:00 2014. The Astoria el was built with 3 tracks to 25th Ave/Hoyt. Hoyt/25th Ave/Astoria Blvd was the only 3 track express station built on that line.Elkeeper: You've done a lot of research into this. It seems that Ditmars Boulevard was an arbitrary place to end the line. Ditmars Boulevard it not the end of Astoria. Was any consideration ever given to extending the line say to Rikers Island or The Bronx or swinging it east to follow the north shore of Queens? Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon Dec 15 09:25:45 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by Elkeeper on Sun Dec 14 22:50:48 2014. ok,I was in Germany at the time,being all I can be. |
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Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Mon Dec 15 10:04:44 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon Dec 15 09:25:45 2014. ok,I was in Germany at the time,being all I can be.East or West? Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon Dec 15 10:22:22 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Mon Dec 15 10:04:44 2014. both,I was a double agent.made a fortune. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Dec 15 10:25:17 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon Dec 15 10:22:22 2014. pics? |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon Dec 15 10:27:22 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Dec 15 10:25:17 2014. ARE YOU CRAZY? THERE`S A PRICE ON MY HAIR! |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Dec 15 11:54:41 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by Elkeeper on Sun Dec 14 22:25:34 2014. My idea is to build 2 flyover tracks from the El starting from south of the Astoria Blvd Sta. to run in the middle of the GCP to the airport. They could get by the NIMBYS if the're determined enough to build it. They beat them when airtrain was built down the Van Wyck to JFK. They can be overcome againThe biggest hurdle would be getting by the Connecting RR bridge over the GCP |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 15 11:57:30 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Dec 15 11:54:41 2014. On the other hand, the express bus from Roosevelt to LGA is such a huge improvement over the prior service, that LGA is now time-competitive with Newark and JFK by public transportation. Is it really a good use of a billion or so to spend it on an LGA connection? |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Dec 15 13:15:01 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by Edwards! on Sun Dec 14 20:51:15 2014. I sometimes wonder about that since S 4 St stops at Union Av. The city probably would have through routed the street at least as far as Stuyvesant Av where the subway would have turned south on its route towards Utica Av much in the same way as 6 Av Manhattan was through routed for the first IND subway and Pitkin Av was through routed with South Rd near 76 St. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Dec 15 14:07:08 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon Dec 15 10:27:22 2014. That's the price tag on your wig! LOL! |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon Dec 15 15:21:11 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by Elkeeper on Mon Dec 15 14:07:08 2014. and dats `zackly what I means,homie! |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Dec 15 15:49:25 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Dec 15 11:54:41 2014. I have also championed that idea. There are very few residences along that stretch.That Connecting RR bridge is a huge hurdle. It appears that a track would fit on either outside flank of the GCP roadway between GCP and the service road right under the bridge. But such a placement would cause the tracks to run into the nearby cross-street overpasses at Steinway and 44th Streets. Possibly those overpasses could be relocated, but at great stress to local traffic. |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Mon Dec 15 17:21:51 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Dec 15 11:54:41 2014. one way to get NIMBYs to jump on, is to have a park on top! |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Mon Dec 15 17:56:34 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 12 06:34:58 2014. "Why is it that idiots are so obsessed with the speed limit but don't care about proper lane use? Proper lane use keeps road rage at bay and that would prevent more accidents than slavish devotion to an artificially low speed limit." Quote for truth |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Mon Dec 15 18:00:52 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Dec 12 06:27:38 2014. To be fair, we're talking about Queens back then, not Manhattan. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Dec 15 19:25:26 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by G1Ravage on Fri Dec 12 21:16:14 2014. That's what I said. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Dec 15 19:35:17 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Dec 12 11:43:19 2014. I said nothing about Manhattan. Manhattan was no longer rural by 1922. You can't say that about Queens which still was mostly farmland.When I was a very young kid in 1953 in Brooklyn, I remember there still was the occasional horse and wagon in the streets. By then the only ones left were knife sharpeners and scrap dealers. In that year my elementary school was built replacing a pig farm right in the center of Brooklyn. Just because you found a few Midtown Manhattan pictures without any horses does not prove anything. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Dec 15 19:49:08 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Dec 15 19:35:17 2014. And how do I know that those pictures were for 1922 and not later like 1927?Also, 1922 was the first year that traffic lights were introduced. So in addition to cars not being capable of today's speeds, perhaps the lack of traffic lights and only police officers to direct traffic required a 20 mph speed limit. That certainly is not true today. The implication that the speed limit was suitable in 1922 is still suitable today is ridiculous. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Dec 15 20:02:58 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Dec 15 19:35:17 2014. A good bailout line would have been saying that the horses in those "updated" photos were under the hood!:) |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Dec 15 21:46:08 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 12 06:34:58 2014. Very rarely do I ever see anyone in the left lane who isn't speeding. I usually stay to the right at the speed limit and everyone passes me. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 15 21:46:24 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Dec 15 19:49:08 2014. You were wrong about how capable cars were.(1327724) |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Dec 15 22:20:15 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Dec 15 21:46:08 2014. The right lame is the most dangerous lane with people constantly merging in ad out |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 15 22:32:25 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Dec 15 22:20:15 2014. ?Dangerous for whom? Is this something they taught you in Drivers Ed or did you pick up on it on your own? |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Dec 15 23:40:33 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Dec 15 19:35:17 2014. I said nothing about Manhattan. Manhattan was no longer rural by 1922. You can't say that about Queens which still was mostly farmland. Queens Blvd, Elmhurst 1922. Where have all the horses gone? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Dec 16 00:17:07 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Dec 15 21:46:08 2014. Very rarely do I ever see anyone in the left lane who isn't speeding.Has nothing to do with speeding or not. You should only be in the left lane if there are vehicles in all the other lanes to your right that are going slower than you and thus impeding your forward progress. I usually stay to the right at the speed limit and everyone passes me.As is the proper thing to do. Bravo. I also usually stay in the right lane, except that in doing so I end up passing everyone else out who is going slower than me while driving in the lanes to my left, while the right lane is wide open. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Dec 16 00:17:38 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Dec 15 23:40:33 2014. pwn3d AGAIN |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Dec 16 00:26:39 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Dec 16 00:17:07 2014. " I end up passing everyone else out who is going slower than me while driving in the lanes to my left, while the right lane is wide open."This American habit of cruising at or below the speed limit in the left lane is dangerous and against the law. In Europe, most everyone stays on the right. If you are in the left lane, and a car comes up behind you, you had better move right pronto or you will be subjected to a barrage of headlight flicking and horn blowing. Left-lane hoggers here refuse to move right when someone is right behind them. This forces you to swing around them to pass on the right. Even when possible, this is a hazard. When not possible, because there are cars in the right lane going at about the same speed, it leads to a line sometimes a mile long of cars blocked by the lane hog -- who is totally oblivious to how he is slowing down everyone else. Infuriating. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Dec 16 00:52:16 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Dec 15 19:49:08 2014. Let it go. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Dec 16 01:34:33 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 15 22:32:25 2014. Middle lane you don't have that issue |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Dec 16 01:48:23 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by italianstallion on Tue Dec 16 00:26:39 2014. Sometimes it’s not convenient to keep right especially if the exit ramp you want is on the left which it is in many cases. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 16 07:00:17 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by randyo on Tue Dec 16 01:48:23 2014. FALSE! That is not "especially" true, it is the only reason not to keep right. And left exits are comparatively rare. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 16 07:02:22 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Dec 16 01:34:33 2014. Still no good. The middle lane should only be for passing cars in the right lane. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Dec 16 07:34:29 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 16 07:00:17 2014. IAWTP!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Dec 16 07:34:41 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by randyo on Tue Dec 16 01:48:23 2014. No, that's incorrect. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Dec 16 07:34:51 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by italianstallion on Tue Dec 16 00:26:39 2014. True dat. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Dec 16 07:35:43 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by Edwards! on Tue Dec 16 00:52:16 2014. Do you identify more with Anna or Elsa? Or perhaps Olaf? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Dec 16 07:41:09 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 16 07:02:22 2014. Exactly. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Dec 16 07:41:32 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Dec 16 01:34:33 2014. Huh? You didn't answer my question. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Dec 16 08:48:19 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Dec 16 07:41:32 2014. In the right lane, you always have to break or speed up with people constantly having to merge to either exit or enter. In the middle lane, you don't have that issue nearly as much. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Dec 16 08:49:35 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 16 07:02:22 2014. Yeah right. That will work in the NY metro area. If you think our traffic volume could drive with just using the right lane, leaving the middle (especially) and left lanes for passing only, you are dreaming. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Dec 16 08:50:03 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Dec 16 07:35:43 2014. LMAO!!!! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Dec 16 08:50:55 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by randyo on Tue Dec 16 01:48:23 2014. How often are there left exit ramps? They are very rare. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 16 09:18:48 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Dec 16 08:48:19 2014. If you're in the right lane in a congested urban freeway segment with entrances and exits, then you may be justified in staying one lane from the right. However, if traffic is only light to moderate, or you are in a more rural area, you should stay all the way right and then move over one lane to the left only while passing entrance and exit ramps. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 16 09:19:56 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Dec 16 08:49:35 2014. You don't understand. Everyone doesn't drive in the right lane. Only the people who aren't passing anyone out go in the right lane. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 16 09:20:12 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Dec 16 08:50:03 2014. :) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 16 10:49:31 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 16 09:19:56 2014. Exactly. It just means that a lot of cars are passing. Nothing wrong with that. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 16 10:50:55 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 16 09:18:48 2014. Yes. But in your first example, if there is a lot of merging traffic that would otherwise cause you to slow down a lot, you would end up doing a lot of passing in that center lane, making its use justified. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 16 11:13:45 2014, in response to Re: Queens Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 16 10:49:31 2014. Yep. |
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