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Re: Canarsie trains via Broadway-Brooklyn during (L) tunnel shutdown

Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Feb 7 09:28:04 2016, in response to Re: J line extension to Bay Ridge after Second Avenue subway opens?, posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Sun Feb 7 04:05:39 2016.

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If I were to do any of that, I would actually:

Have the (C) that is also a 480' train be re-routed after West 4th, run via the (M) and then (J) to Broadway Junction and then via the current (L) to Rockaway Parkway. This version of the (C) would be a 24/7 line between Rockaway Parkway and 168th Street (it's been noted elsewhere there are still signals on the stretch between Broadway Junction and Rockaway Parkway). During this time the (C) and (M) (and if my other noted idea were implemented, "Orange (T)") would run express in Brooklyn (M to/from Myrtle, C to/from Broadway Junction) during peak hours while the (J) and (Z) would run local then.

The (L) would be truncated to Broadway Junction (Google Earth shows there is a switch between Broadway Junction and where the line goes underground) where it can better serve the much more heavily traveled part of the line.

Yes, this would create a slew of other issues (most notably the (C) merging with the (M) and (F) at Broadway-Lafayette and the (J) at Essex, but there are going to be issues no matter what because of the (L) shutdown and this would likely minimize those.

If those changes are made, there are other ripple effects, those being (as I would do them):

The (E) is extended to Euclid Avenue to replace the (C) in Brooklyn at all times and late nights is further extended to Lefferts to eliminate the late-night shuttle. Because of capacity issues between Canal and Chambers Streets, during peak hours, select (E) trains (including ALL (E)'s that begin and end at 179th Street) are designated as and terminate at Chambers, running local while during those hours, (E) trains to Brooklyn run on the express track with the (A).

Since the (C) would be leaving the line at West 4th, there would also be a supplemental (K) train (running a max of 2-5 TPH) at all times betweeen Chambers and 168th Street.

Again a far from perfect situation, but might be the most doable for at least this period (and if proven successful could be made permanent after the (L) closure is over).

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