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NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 20 10:27:05 2012 LINK: Under a bill now gaining traction in Albany, New Yorkers may have to answer to mounted cameras that record the speed of cars and issue violations automatically. |
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Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 20 10:37:37 2012, in response to NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 20 10:27:05 2012. Interesting Link and informative thank you for posting it.Gotta slow it down... |
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Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Jun 20 11:13:49 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 20 10:37:37 2012. Aren't your speed limits too slow now? My beltway is going to become 85 soon with parts of it currently at 75. |
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Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 20 11:32:12 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by orange blossom special on Wed Jun 20 11:13:49 2012. BULL SHIT!But yes, speed limits here are too low. Not the speed limits discussed in the article, which pertain to local streets. |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jun 20 11:58:33 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 20 11:32:12 2012. +1 |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 20 12:00:11 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by orange blossom special on Wed Jun 20 11:13:49 2012. I'm thinking local traffic is more of a problem. Hence the cams. |
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Posted by Charles G on Wed Jun 20 12:06:20 2012, in response to NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 20 10:27:05 2012. Speed cameras work much more effectively as a deterrent when you have a mix of fixed location cameras as well as temporary cameras.With only 40 in the entire city and all at fixed locations, it won't take long for people to know where they are and now to avoid them. |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jun 20 12:37:42 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by Charles G on Wed Jun 20 12:06:20 2012. Huh? The article says that 20 of the 40 can be rotated, and thus the plan matches exactly what you describe as the ideal situation. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jun 20 12:42:07 2012, in response to NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 20 10:27:05 2012. Perhaps they should first raise the ridiculously too low 55 speed limit up to at least 65 before doing such a thing. |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jun 20 12:55:07 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jun 20 12:42:07 2012. Huh? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jun 20 13:11:59 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jun 20 12:55:07 2012. The speed limit on the highways in NY are ridiculously low and unrealistic. For example, the LI Expressway, Sunrise Highway and many other roads are at 55, 50 or various other unrealistic speed limits, which virtually no one goes. Everyone is going at least 65, which is a realistic speed limit for those roads. If they want to enforce speeding, with cameras, they will basically giving virtually every car outside of rush hour, a ticket for speeding. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jun 20 13:31:49 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jun 20 13:11:59 2012. Ok, but the article and the thread are about NYC, where relatively few highways deserve a speed limit of 65. Maybe parts of the Clearview, the West Shore, and the Nassau (all mile of it). I can't think of anything else. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jun 20 13:36:50 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by AlM on Wed Jun 20 13:31:49 2012. Oh okay, I didn't realize the blue font was a link. That said, the highways in NYC should also be above 50. 50 on the Queens Midtown (LI) Expressway for example is absurd. Same with the clearview, and even some of the parkways. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 20 14:49:45 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jun 20 12:42:07 2012. The speed limit on city streets is 30. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 20 14:52:13 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by AlM on Wed Jun 20 13:31:49 2012. I think pretty much all the Expressways except for the BQE and Cross Bronx can be 65. The fact that they are congested is meaningless. The Belt Parkway and Grand Central can do 65 too among the parkways. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Wed Jun 20 16:09:35 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jun 20 12:37:42 2012. No, he's referring to something like what DC has, which are portable speed cameras that they move around to different locations. A rotating camera just says "at this intersection with a known speed camera, you can be caught speeding in any direction as opposed to just eastbound, or what have you" |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Wed Jun 20 16:21:49 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by AlM on Wed Jun 20 13:31:49 2012. There are plenty of Highways in NYC that can have a 65MPH speed limit being that the speed of traffic is 70MPH anyway.I was going to list all of those roadways but it's easier to list the ones that could be left as is: FDR Drive - Currently at 45MPH (It's a Roller Coaster) Jackie Robinson Parkway - Currently at 45MPH (Should actually be increased to like 55MPH) Brooklyn Queens Expressway - Currently at 45MPH (a lot of lane drop in and outs, as well as sharp direction changes) The rest all have traffic flows of 70mph when they're not congested. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Jun 20 16:25:55 2012, in response to NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 20 10:27:05 2012. they tried this same shit in arizona and it failed !lol |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Wed Jun 20 16:29:05 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 20 14:49:45 2012. Which is interesting, if you monitor your speed when going along with traffic, it is usually at 40mph. Unless it's a Manhattan Ave where they have the synched signals which actually promote mobility.From my observations, sometimes out of sequence signals cause speeding as drivers don't like getting perpetually caught at red lights so they speed up to get through as many as possible. |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jun 20 16:42:19 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jun 20 13:11:59 2012. As you noted, you didn't read the article. Presumably this is mainly for local roads and/or highway sections where people shouldn't be speeding. |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jun 20 16:49:00 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by N6 Limited on Wed Jun 20 16:09:35 2012. Ok, I didn't catch that. But even so, isn't it pretty much the same idea? In both cases you know all of the possible locations but only a subset are active at any one time. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jun 20 17:03:12 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by N6 Limited on Wed Jun 20 16:21:49 2012. There are plenty of Highways in NYC that can have a 65MPH speed limit being that the speed of traffic is 70MPH anyway.Just because traffic is going 70 doesn't mean it's safe to do so. With the possible exception of the Clearview, I doubt any highway in NYC has a 70 mph design speed. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Wed Jun 20 17:29:06 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jun 20 16:49:00 2012. It's somewhat different. All 40 cameras will be active at all times(most likely). Though, NYC want's to have drivers play Russian roulette at locations which have the 20 rotating cameras so that they can "surprise" them and milk more money out of them.In reality, drivers will find out that those locations have rotating cameras and slow down no matter which direction they're traveling in. In DC, they have fixed cameras where drivers learn where they are located, as well as portable cameras that move to different locations throughout the city. One slick one they have is on New York Ave, just as it turns from highway to a Local Street. That would be like them putting a speed camera at the Troggs Neck and Whitestone Bridge toll plazas. You have approach highways where people are going 70MPH and then there's suddenly a 10mph speed limit where logically, drivers gradually coast down then use their breaks as they approach the booth. They all would be going 40-50mph over the "speed limit" and would receive a ticket in the mail. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 20 17:36:06 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 20 14:52:13 2012. Exactly. When no traffic....people go those speeds normally. Theres no reason they cant be 60 or 65. As mentioned...the fact that some of them are often congested is irrelevant. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 20 17:37:54 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jun 20 17:03:12 2012. Even if not 70...most can be at least 60 or 65. The 50 and 55 limits on most...are absurd. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 20 17:39:41 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jun 20 16:42:19 2012. Yes. Since the link didnt have line under it i thought it was just blue font...not a link. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Wed Jun 20 17:40:01 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jun 20 17:03:12 2012. The Staten Island Expressway comes to mind.Keep in mind that "design speed" refers to standards at the time when said highways were initially built. A 70mph highway design speed for a car made in the 1930s-50s is certainly different than what's necessary for today's technologically advance vehicles.There were also many safety improvements made to the highways over the years. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 20 18:27:14 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by N6 Limited on Wed Jun 20 17:40:01 2012. Correct....and very few roads withe the exception of the Bethpage and perhaps the jackie robinson are still in their original designed form. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Wed Jun 20 19:01:08 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 20 18:27:14 2012. I believe the Jackie Robinson was rebuilt in the late 80's IIRC, but it's one of the few parkway's not widened since its original construction (Including the Bethpage Parkway as you mentioned, and the Wangtagh Parkway north of the Southern Sate Parkway) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 20 19:05:22 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jun 20 13:36:50 2012. The first word was "LINK." |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 20 19:08:16 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 20 17:39:41 2012. What did you think "LINK:" meant?I'm going to continue posting non-underlined links because incessant underlining looks bad. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jun 20 22:13:25 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by N6 Limited on Wed Jun 20 19:01:08 2012. It got a normal divider and some other improvements in the 80's, but it's still basically the same road it was from the beginning. The Bethpage is what the parkways were designed as.Interestingly, the Jackie Robinson is able to handle full sized buses unlike most of the other parkways. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jun 20 22:22:57 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 20 19:05:22 2012. Yes, but it didn't look like a link. How much time do you think most of us spend on a post on a phone? Glance at best. Yes, my own fault, but it's been proven most people don't even click links that are obvious links much less ones that just look like colored font. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Wed Jun 20 22:56:17 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jun 20 22:13:25 2012. The full sized buses can navigate those curves?Most of the Saw Mill , Hutchinson River & Bronx River Parkways within Westchester are in their original forms as well. And the Henry Hudson Parkway in the Bronx |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Jun 21 06:08:58 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by N6 Limited on Wed Jun 20 17:40:01 2012. Keep in mind that "design speed" refers to standards at the time when said highways were initially built. A 70mph highway design speed for a car made in the 1930s-50s is certainly different than what's necessary for today's technologically advance vehicles.There were also many safety improvements made to the highways over the years.You have it backwards - a highway built in the 1930s with a 70 mph design speed might only have a 50 mph design speed under modern standards. For example, brake reaction time was 0.6 seconds in 1935, but it's 2.5 seconds today. |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Thu Jun 21 06:15:57 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Jun 21 06:08:58 2012. +1 |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 21 07:10:07 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by N6 Limited on Wed Jun 20 22:56:17 2012. Yes. Full sized school buses use the Jackie Robinson all the time. I have been behind them from the Kew Gardens interchange all the way to Bushwick Ave. The first time I noticed it I thought it was a stray bus that shouldn't have been there, but I see them on it all the time. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 21 07:11:16 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 20 14:49:45 2012. I am fully aware of that, but I am talking about the highways/parkways. 30 is pretty standard for many streets outside NYC too. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jun 21 07:51:56 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jun 20 12:42:07 2012. There are no 55 MPH zones in NYC, IINM. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jun 21 07:52:58 2012, in response to NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 20 10:27:05 2012. If used on the FDR Drive (which has a posted speed limit of 40 MPH), it would be very interesting to see the number of photos and summonses generated. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jun 21 07:54:59 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by Charles G on Wed Jun 20 12:06:20 2012. NYC red light cameras are mostly in fixed places and most everyone knows where they are (you can even Google it for the camera locations). However the proposed speed cameras will be constantly rotated and drivers will not know where they are until they see them. (if they are able to) |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jun 21 07:56:02 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by N6 Limited on Wed Jun 20 16:21:49 2012. FDR Drive - Currently at 45MPH (It's a Roller Coaster)It's 40 MPH end to end. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 21 08:18:52 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jun 21 07:52:58 2012. This is true for any of the roads though. Since most of the parkway/expressway speed limits are absurdly too low, they would have to ticket just about every car outside of congested times. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Jun 21 09:03:11 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 20 18:27:14 2012. Correct....and very few roads withe the exception of the Bethpage and perhaps the jackie robinson are still in their original designed form.The primary factor in design speed is stopping sight distance, which is controlled by horizontal and vertical curvature. I doubt much improvement has been made in those departments. Lane width, shoulder width, and clear zone also have an effect to a lesser extent. Safety improvements like the addition of barriers and signs don't change the design speed. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 21 09:45:36 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jun 21 07:51:56 2012. correct. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jun 21 13:58:22 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 20 14:52:13 2012. BQE has too many curves from Hamilton Ave to Flushing Ave while the section from Queens Blvd to Northern Blvd has tight (narrow - - compared to Federal Interstate highway standards) lanes along a slow curve.The Bruckner Expressway has that 25 MPH curve west of the Bruckner/Eastern Blvd drawbridge (under the Sheridan Expressway). |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 21 14:11:08 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jun 21 13:58:22 2012. Some curves aren't relevant. That's what slower speed limit sections are for, with ample warning signs. The BQE's slow sections are so numerous and close together it wouldn't be worthwhile to allow higher speeds in the minimal straight sections in between. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Jun 21 14:23:52 2012, in response to Re: NY Times: With Speed-Camera Bill, More Writing of Tickets May Be Going Hands-Free, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 21 14:11:08 2012. Some curves aren't relevant. That's what slower speed limit sections are for, with ample warning signs.A couple of curves wouldn't warrant a slower speed zone, just an advisory speed. |
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